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Old 05-06-2011, 01:04 PM   #26
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No offense Champ, but the clip you keep posting was an excerpt from a series of films called The Power of Nightmares, a sort of documentary about the government use of fear to control the masses and stay in power. While it certainly in some parts of the series raises valid questions, it is no more fact than the stuff than Michael Moore's documentaries. It's an interesting series nonetheless, but I think you are taking the video both too literally and out of the context of the whole series of films.
I'm glad you are somewhat opened minded and you look into these. unlike some others. But this is exactly what I mean when I say AL Qaeda doesn't exist. As you said its a documentary about, " the governments use of fear to control the masses and stay in power." That is exactly what our government wants, hence them creating something for the average american to fear, Al Qaeda. It's not just that video either, I urge others to do some research into this and other matters, and not just to play the dumb american card. And lastly I don't think im taking it to literally when the film ends with him talking about how he went into the field with these soldiers, on numerous accounts, only to see shepherds. But again thanks for you're open minded-ness.
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This thread started with promise. By post 2, it started to look like a donkey show in Tiajuana.

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I'm glad you are somewhat opened minded and you look into these. unlike some others. But this is exactly what I mean when I say AL Qaeda doesn't exist. As you said its a documentary about, " the governments use of fear to control the masses and stay in power." That is exactly what our government wants, hence them creating something for the average american to fear, Al Qaeda. It's not just that video either, I urge others to do some research into this and other matters, and not just to play the dumb american card. And lastly I don't think im taking it to literally when the film ends with him talking about how he went into the field with these soldiers, on numerous accounts, only to see shepherds. But again thanks for you're open minded-ness.
I will almost always listen to someone's point though frankly I disagree with this stance. Yes, governments both now and in the past have used fear as a controlling mechanism. However, Al Qaeda is a real threat to people and ignoring them is just as dangerous as ignoring the abuse of power sometimes exhibited by all governments. I do believe this organization exists as a hate organization destroying people who do not fall in line with their beliefs. I think they will use any excuse to hate and destroy (if it isn't Palestine they'd find something else to hate us for).

And as far as Rev's original post, I found the part of the statement where they called us dishonorable for killing not on a battlefield particularly hypocritical on their parts given the fact that they flew airplanes into building that were people going about their workday, not soldiers on a field of battle. Kind of made me want to just go in and bomb them.
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Al Qaeda isn't real. That's like saying the Israeli/Palestinian conflict isn't real.

Champ I need to introduce you to my friend who spent years in the special forces fighting AlQaeda. He worked in high level positions at the pentagon also. Known him for 20 years. I guess he isn't real then according to you.
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Again, I appreciate your whole attitude towards talking about his, as you can see most people just wave their flag and don't question anything. I never will force my opinion on other, nor will i do that here, but I just wanted to show the other side. And as for your second statement, I agree with that. I don't think it was cowardly, or any of that, and I'm not against the fact that Osama is dead, i just don't like that we are celebrating someones death. and to put it into football terms, i think it was ridiculous that Rashard Mendenhall got dropped form all his sponsors. I applaud him for making these comments.
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Al Qaeda isn't real. That's like saying the Israeli/Palestinian conflict isn't real.

Champ I need to introduce you to my friend who spent years in the special forces fighting AlQaeda. He worked in high level positions at the pentagon also. Known him for 20 years. I guess he isn't real then according to you.
I think he's real, but i think his missions may not of been all about what his superiors were telling him. I have no conflict with the soldiers, i think they are needed, and that they are great people, but I think it's sad we waste lives when its not needed.
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Again, I appreciate your whole attitude towards talking about his, as you can see most people just wave their flag and don't question anything. I never will force my opinion on other, nor will i do that here, but I just wanted to show the other side. And as for your second statement, I agree with that. I don't think it was cowardly, or any of that, and I'm not against the fact that Osama is dead, i just don't like that we are celebrating someones death. and to put it into football terms, i think it was ridiculous that Rashard Mendenhall got dropped form all his sponsors. I applaud him for making these comments.
Yeah! If you would have listened to him talk, you would realize the mass murderer was a good guy!
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I wish they would have stuck a GPS to his ass so we could follow him online as he bumped along the bottom of the ocean.
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I wish they would have stuck a GPS to his ass so we could follow him online as he bumped along the bottom of the ocean.
Should have made it a PPV event, would help with the deficit.
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Al Qaeada confirms the kill of Osama and threatens retaliation.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...den/index.html

...but I thought Gaff said he died a decade ago! Terrorists in on conspiracy?
Yeah, where is that imbecile? I know he won't admit he's full of crap, but I'd at least like to seem him try.
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honestly man, i wasn't trying to make this a personal attack on anyone, but since everyone decides to attack me, and an idea that is different, then whatever. its people like the majority of you who are the stupid americans, because you really dont think at all. you go about your lives doing pointless tasks, not questioning anything. its people like that that re ruining america. we weren't founded by a bunch of lazy, close minded people. the founding fathers were new age thinkers, who questioned government. so if you really want to get down to who is being the stupid american in this discusion, just look in the mirror.
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Yeah! If you would have listened to him talk, you would realize the mass murderer was a good guy!
and this"mass murderer" is a human and deserves human compassion. sorry im not a typical big gutted, american flag waving, ignorant american. im not saying we should have a funeral service for the guy. but to be celebrating like the broncos just won the super bowl, thats just plain stupid. go on living your pointless american lives.
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honestly, i feel like im talking to a bunch of george bush clones over here. if you are so for killing bin laden and ending Al Qaeda why aren't you over there fighting a pointless fight as well?
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and this"mass murderer" is a human and deserves human compassion. sorry im not a typical big gutted, american flag waving, ignorant american. im not saying we should have a funeral service for the guy. but to be celebrating like the broncos just won the super bowl, thats just plain stupid. go on living your pointless american lives.
So, where are you from?
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and this"mass murderer" is a human and deserves human compassion. sorry im not a typical big gutted, american flag waving, ignorant american. im not saying we should have a funeral service for the guy. but to be celebrating like the broncos just won the super bowl, thats just plain stupid. go on living your pointless american lives.
Yea, and you're totally making a difference. By posting on a Denver Broncos message board.


Get the **** out of here, you suck.
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I'm from Denver.
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and this"mass murderer" is a human and deserves human compassion. sorry im not a typical big gutted, american flag waving, ignorant american. im not saying we should have a funeral service for the guy. but to be celebrating like the broncos just won the super bowl, thats just plain stupid. go on living your pointless american lives.
You are clearly a stupid, I couldn't say if you are American or fat.

You support what that dumb little b**** RB says. He didn't say what you are saying. He claimed that no one had a reason to dislike the guy because we "haven't even listened to him talk." As if we have to meet the guy to dislike him. The fact that he has helped murder thousands shouldn't even be considered!

Yes, you and Rashard are a couple of dumbasses.
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honestly man, i wasn't trying to make this a personal attack on anyone, but since everyone decides to attack me, and an idea that is different, then whatever. its people like the majority of you who are the stupid americans, because you really dont think at all. you go about your lives doing pointless tasks, not questioning anything. its people like that that re ruining america. we weren't founded by a bunch of lazy, close minded people. the founding fathers were new age thinkers, who questioned government. so if you really want to get down to who is being the stupid american in this discusion, just look in the mirror.

Dude.

Read the paragraph you just wrote and consider what you just said to other posters. Then realize the founding fathers created a government capable of dealing with dissenting opinions. Then realize that a group of americans are arguing over things occuring in the public sphere. What you should deduce is that all opinions matter.

Its just that your opinion sucks, and will be mocked.

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Yea, and you're totally making a difference. By posting on a Denver Broncos message board.


Get the **** out of here, you suck.
haha im posting on here because im a broncos fan, but its not like i dont do other things, dont pretend like you know me.
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