Official Draft Patrick Peterson Thread - The Orange Mane

BowlenBall · 12-28-2010, 12:14 AM

If we end up with the 2nd pick in the 2011 draft (and that's a big if with Tebow as our QB next week), and if Andrew Luck comes out, we'll be staring Patrick Peterson in the face when it's our turn to make a selection. Seeing how he's one of the guys we'll be endlessly debating until April, I thought he might deserve his own thread in the NFL draft forum.

Don't get me wrong -- I wish we had a stud DL at the top of the draft, but I'm not sure there is one this year who's in the class of Suh and McCoy. Also, I'm actually an even bigger fan of trading down 8-10 spots and then picking a lineman, but it's gonna be hard to pass on an Ed Reed-ish talent like this.

Here's a great read I came across today:
http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/20..._be_remem.html

Some snippets from the article:
"What astounds me about Peterson is being able to move that build, that body structure, in a way that a cornerback has to do to respond to what's happening in front of him," Purvis said. "It's almost a phenomenon."

No one appreciates Peterson more than LSU defensive coordinator John Chavis. Peterson's cover skills allowed Chavis to be flexible with his blitz packages and defenses.

Chavis is not one to toss around superlatives about players unless they really earn them, but he said Peterson's ball skills are the best he's been around, and he coached All-Americans Eric Berry and Dale Carter at Tennessee.

"Eric had good ball skills, I don't know they were as good as Pat's," he said. "Pat has best ball skills that anyone I've been around - period.

"That's something you're not born with, it's something you create. I think at an early age his dad gave him an opportunity to develop those skills over a long period of time. You get a chance to coach a guy like that maybe every 10 years. He's truly a special athlete. What makes him special is his work ethic, dedication, desire, love for the game and love of competing."

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 07:51 AM

Champ Bailey

Rohirrim · 12-28-2010, 08:02 AM

Everything I've seen and read about Peterson makes me believe he's an incredible football player. It would be amazing to see him in the Broncos' backfield, running all over the field trying to cover receivers while the opposing QB tries to decide, given all the time he'll have, which receiver he likes the most.

HILife · 12-28-2010, 12:27 PM

I'm sold, bring him in. We can draft line in the 2nd round. Supposely this is a good draft for that.

Broncoman13 · 12-28-2010, 12:29 PM

Peterson would be a great pick no doubt... but Bowers looks like the next Demarcus Ware with a better build already. You give me an option between the next Champ Bailey and the next Demarcus Ware and I'm probably going to pick the next Champ Bailey 8 out of 10 times. In our current situation, I'm taking the next Demarcus Ware. Give me somebody that is going to get in Rivers, Cassel, Manning, Brady, and Rothlisberger's face and cause some fumbles. We've seen Champ Bailey and what he can do...without a pass rush he is just another CB that gets frustrated b/c teams just pass away from him.

snowspot66 · 12-28-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Broncoman13

Peterson would be a great pick no doubt... but Bowers looks like the next Demarcus Ware with a better build already. You give me an option between the next Champ Bailey and the next Demarcus Ware and I'm probably going to pick the next Champ Bailey 8 out of 10 times. In our current situation, I'm taking the next Demarcus Ware. Give me somebody that is going to get in Rivers, Cassel, Manning, Brady, and Rothlisberger's face and cause some fumbles. We've seen Champ Bailey and what he can do...without a pass rush he is just another CB that gets frustrated b/c teams just pass away from him.

Champ's best year was in 2005. He was probably the most dominant player in the entire league that year and he did it with absolutely zero pass rush. If we can get a guy like Champ you take him unless there is an equally talented lineman.

peacepipe · 12-28-2010, 01:37 PM

I have no problem taking a DL as long as we trade down to do so. Their isn't a DL worth a #2 pick.

NFLBRONCO · 12-28-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

I have no problem taking a DL as long as we trade down to do so. Their isn't a DL worth a #2 pick.

I agree

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by peacepipe

I have no problem taking a DL as long as we trade down to do so. Their isn't a DL worth a #2 pick.

Yeah there is. But go ahead and keep rationalizing the sexy pick.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66

Champ's best year was in 2005. He was probably the most dominant player in the entire league that year and he did it with absolutely zero pass rush. If we can get a guy like Champ you take him unless there is an equally talented lineman.

No, youre thinking of 2006.

snowspot66 · 12-28-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vercingetorix

No, youre thinking of 2006.

Looking at the stats just now and it was two years of domination, 2005 and 2006, without a pass rush either year. Even more impressive in my book. If Peterson has that potential then hell yeah I want him to be the pick unless there is a Suh quality prospect on the defensive line.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by snowspot66

Looking at the stats just now and it was two years of domination, 2005 and 2006, without a pass rush either year.

2006 was by far his better year. They probably only threw at him 15 or so times and he still had at leaest 10 INTs. There were times when he had to play off his man to come up with the pick. 2006 was the season where he made the interception in the endzone in a home game against the Ravens.

In 2005 Coyer really brought the blitz. Then when Pittsburgh had an answer for it in the AFC CG, Coyer almost completely backed off of blitzing the next year, which made his 2006 even more impressive.

Crushaholic · 12-28-2010, 10:15 PM

I have no problem with this. NO QUARTERBACKS!!!!

Inkana7 · 12-28-2010, 10:19 PM

If this guy is the best defender in the draft, grab him. We can have no shortage of playmakers on Defense, as we currently have one (Dumervil). Peterson looks like he could be a real deal at DB. Take him and draft Front 7 with our other 3 picks in the first 3 rounds.

This NEEDS to be the year that the Broncos invest in young defensive talent. They just have to.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

If this guy is the best defender in the draft, grab him. We can have no shortage of playmakers on Defense, as we currently have one (Dumervil). Peterson looks like he could be a real deal at DB. Take him and draft Front 7 with our other 3 picks in the first 3 rounds.

This NEEDS to be the year that the Broncos invest in young defensive talent. They just have to.

Fairley is also really good and defensive linemen (especially ones that get pressure) affect the game more.

Inkana7 · 12-28-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by vercingetorix

Fairley is also really good and defensive linemen (especially ones that get pressure) affect the game more.

He's also not worth a #2 overall selection.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

He's also not worth a #2 overall selection.

Says who? He's in the top 5 all over the place.

Inkana7 · 12-28-2010, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by vercingetorix

Says who? He's in the top 5 all over the place.

Not for a 3-4.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

Not for a 3-4.

Now youre switching your argument. OK, yeah, even in a 3-4. The guy provides pressure. Thats whats needed. It helps everyone behind him, including Doom, who is making too much money to not be effective.

peacepipe · 12-28-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by vercingetorix

Now youre switching your argument. OK, yeah, even in a 3-4. The guy provides pressure. Thats whats needed. It helps everyone behind him, including Doom, who is making too much money to not be effective.

hard to be effective when you have a torn bicep. Also he had 17.5 sacks without a "great" DE last yr.

vercingetorix · 12-28-2010, 11:12 PM

Not on passing downs.

Edit--someone just deleted or edited their post.

footstepsfrom#27 · 12-29-2010, 11:40 AM

Peterson is quite probably, the best player in college football. The opportunity to get this kind of elite player rarely comes along. When it does, you have to grab it.

HILife · 12-29-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkana7

If this guy is the best defender in the draft, grab him. We can have no shortage of playmakers on Defense, as we currently have one (Dumervil). Peterson looks like he could be a real deal at DB. Take him and draft Front 7 with our other 3 picks in the first 3 rounds.

This NEEDS to be the year that the Broncos invest in young defensive talent. They just have to.

There is no such thing as to many playmakers on defense. If he is the best Defensive player then yea, get him.

ICON · 01-06-2011, 05:59 PM

Best defender in the draft............

Agamemnon · 01-06-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by footstepsfrom#27

Peterson is quite probably, the best player in college football. The opportunity to get this kind of elite player rarely comes along. When it does, you have to grab it.

If only elite corners meant that much in the grand scheme of things, but they just don't. He is the best player in the draft though, I agree with that.

12-28-2010, 12:14 AM	#1
BowlenBall Owner. Philanthropist. Pimp. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Abu Dhabi Posts: 4,345 Adopt-a-Bronco: Lucas Reed	Official Draft Patrick Peterson Thread If we end up with the 2nd pick in the 2011 draft (and that's a big if with Tebow as our QB next week), and if Andrew Luck comes out, we'll be staring Patrick Peterson in the face when it's our turn to make a selection. Seeing how he's one of the guys we'll be endlessly debating until April, I thought he might deserve his own thread in the NFL draft forum. Don't get me wrong -- I wish we had a stud DL at the top of the draft, but I'm not sure there is one this year who's in the class of Suh and McCoy. Also, I'm actually an even bigger fan of trading down 8-10 spots and then picking a lineman, but it's gonna be hard to pass on an Ed Reed-ish talent like this. Here's a great read I came across today: http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/20..._be_remem.html Some snippets from the article: "What astounds me about Peterson is being able to move that build, that body structure, in a way that a cornerback has to do to respond to what's happening in front of him," Purvis said. "It's almost a phenomenon." No one appreciates Peterson more than LSU defensive coordinator John Chavis. Peterson's cover skills allowed Chavis to be flexible with his blitz packages and defenses. Chavis is not one to toss around superlatives about players unless they really earn them, but he said Peterson's ball skills are the best he's been around, and he coached All-Americans Eric Berry and Dale Carter at Tennessee. "Eric had good ball skills, I don't know they were as good as Pat's," he said. "Pat has best ball skills that anyone I've been around - period. "That's something you're not born with, it's something you create. I think at an early age his dad gave him an opportunity to develop those skills over a long period of time. You get a chance to coach a guy like that maybe every 10 years. He's truly a special athlete. What makes him special is his work ethic, dedication, desire, love for the game and love of competing." Last edited by BowlenBall; 12-28-2010 at 12:17 AM..

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12-28-2010, 07:51 AM	#2
vercingetorix Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gaul Posts: 265 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Champ Bailey

12-28-2010, 08:02 AM	#3
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,808	Everything I've seen and read about Peterson makes me believe he's an incredible football player. It would be amazing to see him in the Broncos' backfield, running all over the field trying to cover receivers while the opposing QB tries to decide, given all the time he'll have, which receiver he likes the most.

12-28-2010, 12:27 PM	#4
HILife Ring of Famer Mrs. Alicia Hilife Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DC - NOVA - DMV - VA - Take your pick Posts: 3,431	I'm sold, bring him in. We can draft line in the 2nd round. Supposely this is a good draft for that.

12-28-2010, 12:29 PM	#5
Broncoman13 Broncoholic JT #80 Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,961 Adopt-a-Bronco: Orange Julius	Peterson would be a great pick no doubt... but Bowers looks like the next Demarcus Ware with a better build already. You give me an option between the next Champ Bailey and the next Demarcus Ware and I'm probably going to pick the next Champ Bailey 8 out of 10 times. In our current situation, I'm taking the next Demarcus Ware. Give me somebody that is going to get in Rivers, Cassel, Manning, Brady, and Rothlisberger's face and cause some fumbles. We've seen Champ Bailey and what he can do...without a pass rush he is just another CB that gets frustrated b/c teams just pass away from him.

12-28-2010, 01:37 PM	#7
peacepipe Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,751 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I have no problem taking a DL as long as we trade down to do so. Their isn't a DL worth a #2 pick.

12-28-2010, 10:15 PM	#13
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	I have no problem with this. NO QUARTERBACKS!!!!

12-28-2010, 10:19 PM	#14
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,230 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	If this guy is the best defender in the draft, grab him. We can have no shortage of playmakers on Defense, as we currently have one (Dumervil). Peterson looks like he could be a real deal at DB. Take him and draft Front 7 with our other 3 picks in the first 3 rounds. This NEEDS to be the year that the Broncos invest in young defensive talent. They just have to.

12-28-2010, 11:12 PM	#21
vercingetorix Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Gaul Posts: 265 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Not on passing downs. Edit--someone just deleted or edited their post.

12-29-2010, 11:40 AM	#22
footstepsfrom#27 helmet to helmet hitter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 16,117 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Peterson is quite probably, the best player in college football. The opportunity to get this kind of elite player rarely comes along. When it does, you have to grab it.

01-06-2011, 05:59 PM	#24
ICON \|^\|Punter of Gnomes\|^\| Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..Snap! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Long Beach Posts: 2,607 Adopt-a-Bronco: Nate Irving	Best defender in the draft............