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boltaneer · 08-26-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Do you think Jackson gets traded? Do you like how AJ Smith runs the team?

Unless Jackson lowers his contract demands ($30M guaranteed?!) I don't see how he's getting traded. Seattle has already passed on him and rumor has it Washington is now not interested.

If Danny Snyder is unwilling to fork out the cash, you know something is wrong.

I absolutely love how AJ Smith runs the team. He's one of the best GMs out there IMO. The only thing I don't like about him is the way he airs dirty laundry in the media. I guess that contributes to his no-nonsense, hard-nose persona but I wish he would use more "coach speak" when dealing with the media.

Cito Pelon · 08-26-2010, 10:24 AM

I don't know if it's an indictment of the rest of the teams in the AFC West, or a matter of SD being awesome, but no AFC West team has won four AFC West titles in a row since Oakland 1972-1976, until SD did it last year. And only SD has won 5 AFC West titles in six years.

snowspot66 · 08-26-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

I don't know if it's an indictment of the rest of the teams in the AFC West, or a matter of SD being awesome, but no AFC West team has won four AFC West titles in a row since Oakland 1972-1976, until SD did it last year. And only SD has won 5 AFC West titles in six years.

I'd say it's more an indictment of the rest of the teams. KC and Oakland have been plain awful and we trip on our ***** near the finish line every year. We've given both the Chargers and the Chiefs a trip to the playoffs courtesy of our consistent mailing it in.

Cito Pelon · 08-26-2010, 11:21 AM

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,6899396.story

Martz feeling the love with Cutler
New Bears offensive coordinator as enamored as ever with QB

Jay Cutler talks with Lance Briggs on the sidelines against the Raiders. (Jonathan Daniel, Getty Images / August 22, 2010)

8:43 p.m. CDT, August 24, 2010

For anyone wondering how the Jay Cutler-Mike Martz marriage is progressing, the honeymoon appears to be ongoing, based on the way the Bears offensive coordinator gushed Tuesday.

"There's nothing about Jay that I worry about,'' Martz said. "I just wish all of you could know him like I know him right now. I know that this sounds syrupy and sappy and all that, but every day that I get to know him as a man and as a player he's pretty unusual now.

"He has great character and class and dignity with the players. Professionally, he's trying to do everything just exactly the way we ask him to do it. He's brilliant. He's not smart, he's brilliant.''
If only Martz could speak as highly of the offensive line.

Surprisingly, Martz did not lash out — at least in front of the media — about his line allowing Cutler to be sacked five times in the first half of Saturday night's loss to the Raiders. Left tackle Chris Williams struggled miserably, surrendering three sacks.

"I think with Chris, it's an aberration,'' Martz said. "I see him every day out here. I don't know what happened to him. When I look at him on tape, the technique and everything is just not who he is.

"You're always concerned when you have sacks,'' Martz continued. "… But from what we see in practice every day against what's a real good front, I think they'll be just fine. I really do.''

Cutler chuckled when asked Tuesday about displaying his mobility.

"I don't think we want to use the scrambling abilities the way we did on Saturday,'' he said. "We want to try to incorporate some nakeds and some bootlegs and stuff, maybe not in the manner that we did.

"The offensive line, they had some struggles. They were in the right spots. It was just more of a lack of setting correctly and stuff like that. They're going to take care of it. I'm not worried about it. This week (against the Cardinals) is going to be a good test for them.''

The Bears have as many as 37 different protection schemes in their arsenal, but don't expect Martz or offensive line coach Mike Tice to start exhausting their resources now. Plus Tice said the line has not had a true opportunity to develop cohesion with right guard Lance Louis in and out with an ankle injury.

"We have chosen to let our players just work and get better,'' Tice said. "We're still evaluating our players. I've only been around Chris for a couple of months. I have to find out all of his weaknesses. I have to find out where I can help him, where I can get him better.

"If I guy has a bad night, technique-wise, you continue to push him to stay focused on his technique when he's tired, stressed, whatever's bothering him. … When things are going badly, technique wins.''

cutthemdown · 08-26-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

I don't know if it's an indictment of the rest of the teams in the AFC West, or a matter of SD being awesome, but no AFC West team has won four AFC West titles in a row since Oakland 1972-1976, until SD did it last year. And only SD has won 5 AFC West titles in six years.

So basically they dominated division when the other teams were down, but couldn't win a Superbowl.

cutthemdown · 08-26-2010, 11:36 AM

Don't take Cutler in Fantasy. He will get sacked 40 times this yr, throw 15-20 picks, and probably only 25 tds to make up for it. Unless he falls out of the top 10 qbs I would pass on him.

crush17 · 08-26-2010, 11:43 AM

Holy crap Mike Martz is ridiculous.
I wonder if he gives Cutler bj's every day after practice... sheesh.

WABronco · 08-26-2010, 12:36 PM

Kaylore · 08-26-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by crush17

Holy crap Mike Martz is ridiculous.
I wonder if he gives Cutler bj's every day after practice... sheesh.

I like Martz the guy and he can pretty creative as an offensive coordinator. He does need someone to tell him "no" or he'll get crazy. If Martz can teach Cutler to have some restraint and learn to play within himself, he could realize his potential. Otherwise Cutler will continue to flatline. With that line and that offense in it's first year, though, I expect Jay to throw upwards of 30 picks this year.

boltaneer · 08-26-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

I don't know if it's an indictment of the rest of the teams in the AFC West, or a matter of SD being awesome, but no AFC West team has won four AFC West titles in a row since Oakland 1972-1976, until SD did it last year. And only SD has won 5 AFC West titles in six years.

It's a little of both. They got lucky to get in in 2008 but the rest of the years they've earned it, though the rest of the division could have presented more of a challenge.

cutthemdown · 08-26-2010, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by boltaneer

It's a little of both. They got lucky to get in in 2008 but the rest of the years they've earned it, though the rest of the division could have presented more of a challenge.

they better hurry and win it all.

broncosteven · 08-26-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

I like Martz the guy and he can pretty creative as an offensive coordinator. He does need someone to tell him "no" or he'll get crazy. If Martz can teach Cutler to have some restraint and learn to play within himself, he could realize his potential. Otherwise Cutler will continue to flatline. With that line and that offense in it's first year, though, I expect Jay to throw upwards of 30 picks this year.

I think Martz has helped more on the WR side than with Cutler. They are running crisper routes and not giving up on plays. Haine was tearing up duh bears secondary the day I went to camp they really seemed to work on the routes and finishing plays but Hester wasn't on the field that day.

Last year there were guys who were not the primary target not running crisp routes or going all out. This year ALL the WR's are more into the plays and vs Oakland when a play in the redzone broke down due to the rush Cutler was able to buy time while Knox worked the back of the endzone for a TD. Last year that would have been a bad pick.

boltaneer · 08-26-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

they better hurry and win it all.

Didn't you hear? No Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill this season. The window has already closed!!!

Br0nc0Buster · 08-26-2010, 01:20 PM

Cutler is going to get his brain beaten in this year behind that line the Bears got
Martz loves his seven step drops and his timing routes that take 5 seconds to develop

WABronco · 08-26-2010, 01:40 PM

DIE JAY CUTLER DIe

Los Broncos · 08-26-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by boltaneer

Didn't you hear? No Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeill this season. The window has already closed!!!

I haven't watched SD this pre season. how do you guys look?

BMF Bronco · 08-26-2010, 01:56 PM

Am I the only one in the NFL world that doesn't quite understand the hype surrounding Vince Young? Um, he's still going to suck, he had a decent run at the end of last year but I am not convinced he can carry it through the entire season.

DarkHorse · 08-26-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BMF Bronco

Am I the only one in the NFL world that doesn't quite understand the hype surrounding Vince Young? Um, he's still going to suck, he had a decent run at the end of last year but I am not convinced he can carry it through the entire season.

I'm with you on that one, it's a wait and see approach with Young. I think he's just as erratic as they come.

Besides, isn't this the year that Kerry Collins is supposed to be the starter? They trade off every year it seems.

boltaneer · 08-26-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Iron Clady

I haven't watched SD this pre season. how do you guys look?

Running game looks 1000x better. Mathews looks like the real deal.

The passing game has been modified to do more quick passes. Rivers hasn't attempted a deep pass yet. No doubt this is to take the pressure off of Dombrowski at LT and because they don't have Jackson to throw to.

On defense, Cason and Cam Thomas, who both need to contribute big, are having a good pre-season so far. The d-line rotation they have now looks very strong as they've been stuffing the run so far (#1 rushing defense). The pass rush still looks to be anemic though, unless they bring a heavy blitz. The one concern that I have is that Jammer hasn't looked like his solid self so far. I don't know what's going on there.

But overall I think the defense should be an improvement over last year, if they can continue to stop the run.

In a strange way, it might be a blessing in disguise that Jackson and McNeill are holding out. I've been waiting for a more ball control offense from them. And it will play well with the defense being strong against the run. Maybe a little return to Martyball, if you will.

oubronco · 08-26-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BMF Bronco

Am I the only one in the NFL world that doesn't quite understand the hype surrounding Vince Young? Um, he's still going to suck, he had a decent run at the end of last year but I am not convinced he can carry it through the entire season.

I'm with you, I don't see what the hype is all about

Bronco Yoda · 08-26-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cutthemdown

So basically they dominated division when the other teams were down, but couldn't win a Superbowl.

That about sums it up.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-26-2010, 10:44 PM

Rams fear Donnie Avery won't play again in 2010

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...again-in-2010/

Posted by Mike Florio on August 26, 2010 10:48 PM ET

Though the diagnosis can't be confirmed without an MRI exam, the early news regarding the knee injury suffered by Rams receiver Donnie Avery isn't good.

Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com reports that the Rams fear receiver Donnie Avery, who injured his right knee against the Patriots on Thursday night, will miss the rest of the season.

As Caplan explains it, team doctors can check for loose ligaments via manipulation of the knee.

Without Avery, the job of catching passes from Sam Bradford or A.J. Feeley or someone else will fall to Laurent Robinson, Keenan Burton, Mardy Gilyard, Danny Amendola, Jordan Kent, Brandon Gibson, Brandon McRae, Dominique Curry, and/or Danario Alexander.

SouthStndJunkie · 08-27-2010, 03:33 PM

Donnie Avery tore his ACL

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-tore-his-acl/

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 27, 2010 5:38 PM ET

The worst fears surrounding Rams receiver Donnie Avery's knee injury on Thursday night have been realized.

Avery will miss the 2010 with a torn ACL, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo confirmed on Friday. The third-year receiver had some issues with route running and consistency, but he was the Rams' most talented and productive receiver on the roster. (Probably not a great sign for the Rams that's true when Avery has 100 career catches.)

Brandon Gibson figures to benefit with more playing time because he's a vertical receiver like Avery. Laurent Robinson is the new "No. 1" guy, while Danny Amendola and rookie Marty Gilyard will also get their share of catches.

The Rams don't have many "core" young players to build around, so it's especially disappointing when one of them is lost.

Broncoman13 · 08-27-2010, 07:58 PM

Anybody see this Chris Ivory kid from the Saints? WOW!!! They aren't going to miss Mike Bell down in those parts, that Ivory kid is a stud. Sadly I would say he is better than all but maybe Knowshon and even with Buckhalter. Kid has crazy power and at 225 just showed some nice speed... And a pretty nasty stiff arm to boot!

DarkHorse · 08-27-2010, 08:24 PM

We're not ready to crown Ivory because of 1 play now are we?

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08-26-2010, 10:24 AM	#1927
Cito Pelon No playoff game not happy Javelina Hunters at Rest Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Third of Four Posts: 19,454 Adopt-a-Bronco: Werewolves	I don't know if it's an indictment of the rest of the teams in the AFC West, or a matter of SD being awesome, but no AFC West team has won four AFC West titles in a row since Oakland 1972-1976, until SD did it last year. And only SD has won 5 AFC West titles in six years.

08-26-2010, 11:21 AM	#1929
Cito Pelon No playoff game not happy Javelina Hunters at Rest Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Third of Four Posts: 19,454 Adopt-a-Bronco: Werewolves	http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,6899396.story Martz feeling the love with Cutler New Bears offensive coordinator as enamored as ever with QB Jay Cutler talks with Lance Briggs on the sidelines against the Raiders. (Jonathan Daniel, Getty Images / August 22, 2010) 8:43 p.m. CDT, August 24, 2010 For anyone wondering how the Jay Cutler-Mike Martz marriage is progressing, the honeymoon appears to be ongoing, based on the way the Bears offensive coordinator gushed Tuesday. "There's nothing about Jay that I worry about,'' Martz said. "I just wish all of you could know him like I know him right now. I know that this sounds syrupy and sappy and all that, but every day that I get to know him as a man and as a player he's pretty unusual now. "He has great character and class and dignity with the players. Professionally, he's trying to do everything just exactly the way we ask him to do it. He's brilliant. He's not smart, he's brilliant.'' If only Martz could speak as highly of the offensive line. Surprisingly, Martz did not lash out — at least in front of the media — about his line allowing Cutler to be sacked five times in the first half of Saturday night's loss to the Raiders. Left tackle Chris Williams struggled miserably, surrendering three sacks. "I think with Chris, it's an aberration,'' Martz said. "I see him every day out here. I don't know what happened to him. When I look at him on tape, the technique and everything is just not who he is. "You're always concerned when you have sacks,'' Martz continued. "… But from what we see in practice every day against what's a real good front, I think they'll be just fine. I really do.'' Cutler chuckled when asked Tuesday about displaying his mobility. "I don't think we want to use the scrambling abilities the way we did on Saturday,'' he said. "We want to try to incorporate some nakeds and some bootlegs and stuff, maybe not in the manner that we did. "The offensive line, they had some struggles. They were in the right spots. It was just more of a lack of setting correctly and stuff like that. They're going to take care of it. I'm not worried about it. This week (against the Cardinals) is going to be a good test for them.'' The Bears have as many as 37 different protection schemes in their arsenal, but don't expect Martz or offensive line coach Mike Tice to start exhausting their resources now. Plus Tice said the line has not had a true opportunity to develop cohesion with right guard Lance Louis in and out with an ankle injury. "We have chosen to let our players just work and get better,'' Tice said. "We're still evaluating our players. I've only been around Chris for a couple of months. I have to find out all of his weaknesses. I have to find out where I can help him, where I can get him better. "If I guy has a bad night, technique-wise, you continue to push him to stay focused on his technique when he's tired, stressed, whatever's bothering him. … When things are going badly, technique wins.''

08-26-2010, 11:36 AM	#1931
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 38,092	Don't take Cutler in Fantasy. He will get sacked 40 times this yr, throw 15-20 picks, and probably only 25 tds to make up for it. Unless he falls out of the top 10 qbs I would pass on him.

08-26-2010, 11:43 AM	#1932
crush17 "Born A Broncos Fan" Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,957 Adopt-a-Bronco: Rick Upchurch	Holy crap Mike Martz is ridiculous. I wonder if he gives Cutler bj's every day after practice... sheesh.

08-26-2010, 12:36 PM	#1933
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,015

08-26-2010, 01:20 PM	#1939
Br0nc0Buster You honeydicking? Super Bowl 50 Champs Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 7,423	Cutler is going to get his brain beaten in this year behind that line the Bears got Martz loves his seven step drops and his timing routes that take 5 seconds to develop

08-26-2010, 01:40 PM	#1940
WABronco WE SUCK AGAIN All dat force Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,015	DIE JAY CUTLER DIe

08-26-2010, 01:56 PM	#1942
BMF Bronco Offseason sucks... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 11,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: ME	Am I the only one in the NFL world that doesn't quite understand the hype surrounding Vince Young? Um, he's still going to suck, he had a decent run at the end of last year but I am not convinced he can carry it through the entire season.

08-26-2010, 10:44 PM	#1947
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18,107	Rams fear Donnie Avery won't play again in 2010 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...again-in-2010/ Posted by Mike Florio on August 26, 2010 10:48 PM ET Though the diagnosis can't be confirmed without an MRI exam, the early news regarding the knee injury suffered by Rams receiver Donnie Avery isn't good. Adam Caplan of FOXSports.com reports that the Rams fear receiver Donnie Avery, who injured his right knee against the Patriots on Thursday night, will miss the rest of the season. As Caplan explains it, team doctors can check for loose ligaments via manipulation of the knee. Without Avery, the job of catching passes from Sam Bradford or A.J. Feeley or someone else will fall to Laurent Robinson, Keenan Burton, Mardy Gilyard, Danny Amendola, Jordan Kent, Brandon Gibson, Brandon McRae, Dominique Curry, and/or Danario Alexander.

08-27-2010, 03:33 PM	#1948
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 18,107	Donnie Avery tore his ACL http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-tore-his-acl/ Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 27, 2010 5:38 PM ET The worst fears surrounding Rams receiver Donnie Avery's knee injury on Thursday night have been realized. Avery will miss the 2010 with a torn ACL, Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo confirmed on Friday. The third-year receiver had some issues with route running and consistency, but he was the Rams' most talented and productive receiver on the roster. (Probably not a great sign for the Rams that's true when Avery has 100 career catches.) Brandon Gibson figures to benefit with more playing time because he's a vertical receiver like Avery. Laurent Robinson is the new "No. 1" guy, while Danny Amendola and rookie Marty Gilyard will also get their share of catches. The Rams don't have many "core" young players to build around, so it's especially disappointing when one of them is lost.

08-27-2010, 07:58 PM	#1949
Broncoman13 Broncoholic RIP TGN & Baja, TY for the memories Join Date: May 2001 Location: Colorado Posts: 16,974 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gig'em #58	Anybody see this Chris Ivory kid from the Saints? WOW!!! They aren't going to miss Mike Bell down in those parts, that Ivory kid is a stud. Sadly I would say he is better than all but maybe Knowshon and even with Buckhalter. Kid has crazy power and at 225 just showed some nice speed... And a pretty nasty stiff arm to boot!

08-27-2010, 08:24 PM	#1950
DarkHorse RPM Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 4,905 Adopt-a-Bronco: Kenny McKinley	We're not ready to crown Ivory because of 1 play now are we?