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Old 08-17-2010, 01:47 PM   #1851
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Favre usually starts to get jealous of the publicity other players get after the first preseason week and wants to come whore it up.
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He was always coming back it's all about the $
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What kind of team leaders would those guys be if they didn't do everything in their power to make sure that Tavaris Jackson isn't their starting QB for the season opener?
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Lions acquire '08 first round pick Lawrence Jackson from Seahawks

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 18, 2010 3:03 PM ET

Pete Carroll has showed once again that he won't show any favoritism to his former USC players.

The Seahawks traded 2008 first-round pick Lawrence Jackson to the Lions on Wednesday, according to John Boyle of the Everett Herald. The Seahawks will receive an undisclosed 2011 draft pick in the deal, which comes one day after Seattle officially acquired another first-round disappointment Kentwan Balmer from the 49ers.

Carroll quickly dumped his former player LenDale White after acquiring him, and it's a bad sign for Jackson's future that his former coach didn't want him at a thin position in Seattle.

Jackson wasn't a natural fit in Carroll's defense; he was going to be used as a hybrid outside linebacker/defensive end. Jackson was knocked coming out of the draft as someone that had inconsistent effort, and he hasn't beaten that wrap with only seven sacks in two seasons.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:19 PM   #1855
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Lions acquire '08 first round pick Lawrence Jackson from Seahawks

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 18, 2010 3:03 PM ET

Pete Carroll has showed once again that he won't show any favoritism to his former USC players.

The Seahawks traded 2008 first-round pick Lawrence Jackson to the Lions on Wednesday, according to John Boyle of the Everett Herald. The Seahawks will receive an undisclosed 2011 draft pick in the deal, which comes one day after Seattle officially acquired another first-round disappointment Kentwan Balmer from the 49ers.

Carroll quickly dumped his former player LenDale White after acquiring him, and it's a bad sign for Jackson's future that his former coach didn't want him at a thin position in Seattle.

Jackson wasn't a natural fit in Carroll's defense; he was going to be used as a hybrid outside linebacker/defensive end. Jackson was knocked coming out of the draft as someone that had inconsistent effort, and he hasn't beaten that wrap with only seven sacks in two seasons.
Seven sacks in two seasons?
Jarvis Moss would kill for that kind of production
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:22 PM   #1856
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(Some of) you guys might enjoy this: Lovie and Martz put the skirt on Cutler.

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BOURBONNAIS, Ill.—The San Diego Chargers dictated how much Jay Cutler played in the preseason opener for the Chicago Bears last Saturday at Qualcomm Stadium.

Not Lovie Smith. Not Mike Martz. Not Cutler.

It was Martz, the offensive coordinator, who made the candid admission this afternoon that Cutler got yanked after eight plays and the offense’s opening drive, which resulted in a field goal, because the Chargers were blitzing aggressively.

More specifically, ex-Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, now the defensive mastermind of the Chargers, called blitzes on four of the game’s first five plays and six of the eight on the drive. Cutler was sacked once when running back Matt Forte did not pick up blitzing cornerback Donald Strickland, but he also completed two passes in the face of pressure and offensive line coach Mike Tice said he was happy to get the experience against the blitzes in the first preseason game.

“Just wanted to get his feet wet,” Martz said of Cutler. “Everybody has a different approach to the preseason games. Our approach was to get him in there and get him some nice throws down the field, get him loosened up with the receivers a little bit. San Diego had a different approach to it and there was a lot of pressure. We’re still kind of putting things in so when they are pressuring as much as they were in a preseason game, which is fine, everybody does that so it doesn’t make any difference.

“But we probably pulled him a little bit earlier than maybe I would normally. I just wanted to make sure we are further along with what we do before we keep him in there under that kind of circumstance.”

Cutler was also hit by linebacker Kevin Burnett when he scrambled from the pocket on a play. The Bears obviously would have preferred he slide or run out of bounds. A big part of the Chargers’ defense is blitzing and the team played it vanilla in preseason last year. When the defense got to the regular season and began pressuring, the timing wasn’t right. So the Chargers have made the decision to practice what they do during the season in preseason, and apparently the Bears thought it was too big of a risk to have their quarterback in there. As it was, Cutler’s backup Caleb Hanie left with a sprained AC joint in his right shoulder when he was sacked by linebacker Antwan Applewhite.

The Bears will likely play their starters into the second quarter this Saturday against the Oakland Raiders at Soldier Field. What if they blitz like mad?

“That’s a hypothetical question,” Martz said.
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See everybody hates Cutler....
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I don't see anything wrong with pulling your starting QB to make sure he doesn't get killed. pretty smart move IMO
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Ron Rivera is the Chargers D-Coordinator and has been for 3 seasons.


Well, technically 2.5
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Well, technically 2.5
Right, I know that. I was questioning when he had ascended to Mastermind status.
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Jesus Mike Tice is an OL coach now? I guess selling superbowl tickets can really ruin a career.
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Being a ****ty coach can also ruin a career, you'll note.

That Bears offensive line plus the Martz system is going to get Cutler killed.
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Cutler may die under that offense.

I'm serious.

BTW, Mike Tice was almost a bigger moron than

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Right, I know that. I was questioning when he had ascended to Mastermind status.
Yeah, "mastermind" is an exaggeration for sure.

But he's a damn good DC. The Chargers defense has improved significantly despite significant injuries since he took over for Fat Teddy Cottrell.

And the Bears defense has been a shell of what it once was since Rivera was in charge there.
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Old 08-20-2010, 12:36 PM   #1867
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Former Favre receiver could be joining the Vikings

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Posted by Mike Florio on August 20, 2010 2:06 PM ET

Wideout Javon Walker hasn't done much since leaving Green Bay after the 2005 season. And one of his best seasons came the prior year, when his quarterback was Brett Favre.

Now, the two men could be reunited in Minnesota. Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Walker is working out for the Vikings.

The history between Favre and Walker includes some rough patches. When Walker was clamoring in 2005 for a Randy Moss-style contract, Favre made his position clear on the matter -- he wanted Walker to get his ass in line.

"If Javon wants to know what his quarterback thinks, and I would think he might, I'd tell him he's going about this the wrong way," Favre told the Green Bay Press-Gazette after Walker skipped a post-draft minicamp. "When his agent tells him not to worry about what his teammates think and all that stuff, I'd tell him I've been around a long time and that stuff will come back to haunt you." (Said the guy who hasn't attended a minicamp or offseason workout of any kind since 2007.)

So Walker showed up, and he promptly tore an ACL in Week 1 while catching a ball thrown by Brett.

Though Walker might have some lingering animosity toward Favre, it's not as if he has any options.

If signed, Walker would provide depth to a receiving corps that has been hampered by a hip injury to Sidney Rice and ongoing migraine struggles by Percy Harvin.
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the old Martz would have left Cutler in....(see Kurt Warner's, trINT Green's and Mark Bulger's dented melon)

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Shawn Andrews gets six year deal from the Giants with little guaranteed money

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 20, 2010 2:38 PM ET
We called the Giants' signing of guard Shawn Andrews a low-risk, high reward gambit largely because we expected the contract terms to be very team-friendly.

The Giants held up their end of the bargain.

Andrews' contract runs for six years and contains "very little" guaranteed money, according to the New York Daily News. Andrews' agent said there is "more upside" in the second year of the deal, which probably means there are a lot of incentives built in.

The Giants' two starting guards are hurt right now, and the team could use some depth. Andrews will work into game shape slowly, and the team wouldn't classify him as a guard or tackle.

Basically, the contract should make it easy for the Giants to dump Andrews if the move doesn't pan out. And it will be very difficult for Andrews to play anywhere else or earn true market value if he manages to have a successful comeback.
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the old Martz would have left Cutler in....(see Kurt Warner's, trINT Green's and Mark Bulger's dented melon)
Cutler will still get his chances, they arent gonna pull him in the regular season when teams blitz the poo out of them
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It’s make-or-break year for Jaguars’ Garrard

By Jason Cole, Yahoo! Sports
Aug 16, 2:50 pm EDT

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. – On the first play in the exhibition game for the Jacksonville offense, when all the planning and teaching from months of offseason workouts and classroom study are supposed to show a glimpse of hope for what’s to come in a month, the Jaguars got a reminder of one big limitation.


The Jags are 23-25 since Garrard took over in '07.

Sometimes starting quarterback David Garrard(notes) just doesn’t make the right choices.

In this case, the Philadelphia Eagles ran a simple play, bringing one of the safeties down on the offense’s right side, occupying the primary area where the Jags were planning to throw. To most coaches, there is an automatic thing the quarterback is supposed to do: Throw it to the left.


Don’t get fancy. Don’t overthink the situation. Just make the read and go left, where there’s likely to be one-on-one coverage. Or at least one less defender.

Garrard threw right. The ball fell incomplete, which was lucky for Garrard. The pass should have been picked off.

“Yeah, I probably should have gone to the other side,” Garrard said, somewhat sheepishly. His voice drifts off as he defends his decision. It is, to say the least, unconvincing.

This is part of the pressure that has come to bear on Garrard as he enters his fourth season as Jacksonville’s starter. Over his first three years, Garrard has gone from helping the Jaguars get to the playoffs with an impressive 18 TD passes compared to 3 interceptions in 2007 to being the focus of ire up and down the shores of the St. John’s River.

Garrard hasn’t necessarily been bad. But at a time when quarterback play is statistically better than ever, he has been ordinary at best.

From owner Wayne Weaver saying that Garrard needed to work harder and be more vocal like Indianapolis Colts counterpart Peyton Manning(notes) to coach Jack Del Rio tepidly endorsing him as the reigning starter to the obvious discontent among the fan base, Garrard is under fire.

“I want to see him get back to the 2007 approach in 2010,” said Jaguars general manager Gene Smith. “He’s asserting himself more … [but] he’s at a stage where he needs to take a step.”

Either that or the Jaguars could be looking to draft one of the top guys from what is expected to be a quarterback-heavy draft next year. Led by the University of Washington’s Jake Locker, there are roughly a half-dozen juniors and seniors who could be available in April. That includes Andrew Luck of Stanford, Ryan Mallett of Arkansas and Christian Ponder of Florida State.

And no matter what the Jaguars say, they could easily be in the market for one of the top guys, particularly a signal caller who can make more consistent decisions.

“David is a guy who can make plays with his arms and his legs, do things to really help us out, but we need to do it as a unit,” Del Rio said.

Del Rio meant that sincerely, but it’s still damning with feint praise. The knock against Garrard, even from those who think he’s capable of being a successful starter, is that he needs the team around him to play at an extremely high level for him to succeed. In 2007, the Jags running tandem of then-starter Fred Taylor(notes) and Maurice Jones-Drew(notes) was one of the best one-two punches in the league and the Jaguars were phenomenally successful on fourth down.

Over the past two years, as Taylor declined before departing and the receiving corps went into meltdown (the trio of Matt Jones(notes), Reggie Williams(notes) and Jerry Porter(notes) are all currently either out of the league or hanging on by a thread), Garrard’s performance has withered to mediocrity. In that time, he has thrown 30 touchdown passes and 23 interceptions as the team has failed to make the playoffs either year.

Garrard has a respectable career QB rating of 84.9 and can run enough to be effective out of the pocket. Then again, this is an era defined by quarterbacks and doesn’t appear to be changing anytime soon. From Tom Brady(notes) to Drew Brees(notes) to Peyton Manning to Ben Roethlisberger(notes), the NFL is loaded with talented passers.

“The quarterbacks are as great as any time,” said Del Rio, who knows firsthand. He played during the heyday of Dan Marino, John Elway, Joe Montana, Brett Favre(notes) and Troy Aikman. “You look around and everybody is trying to get a great one.”

Right now, Garrard is a long way from that company.

Furthermore, Jags fans are desperate for a game-changing quarterback after being teased by Mark Brunell(notes), Byron Leftwich(notes) and now Garrard, three guys who showed enough to be interesting but not enough to actually be long-term solutions.

Garrard has been sacked 84 times since 2008.

This offseason, fans hit the airwaves with pleas for the team to draft local product and nearby University of Florida star Tim Tebow(notes). After the Jaguars passed on Tebow and all the work that goes with making him an NFL quarterback, the fans have since moved their hope to Luke McCown(notes), a guy who looks the part but has yet to play it since entering the league in 2004.

McCown was impressive in Friday’s exhibition, going 11-for-15 for three touchdowns against Philadelphia, including a 73-yard TD pass to Troy Williamson(notes). That said, most NFL talent evaluators see McCown as purely a backup.

Garrard knows criticism is intensifying. Pete Prisco, a Jacksonville sports talk radio host and CBS Sportsline NFL reporter, summarized his and a segment of the fan base’s feelings about Garrard.

“He stinks,” Prisco said on air recently.

Said Garrard, “I have friends who call me and tell me what’s being said. They say, ‘You should go on with Prisco and say this and this.’ I’m like, ‘What good is that going to do? He doesn’t like me anyways, so what does it matter?’ ”

Instead, Garrard tries to remain focused

“It’s about doing whatever I can within the scheme of our offense,” Garrard said. “You can’t fall into that trap where you say, ‘This is a big year for me, therefore I have to make the big throws or throw the long touchdown.’ You have to stay within what works for our team.”

Starting with better decisions would help.
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Spiller sparks Bills to 34-21 win over Colts
By JOHN WAWROW, AP Sports Writer
TORONTO (AP)—Chan Gailey described his first win as Buffalo Bills head coach as an important step for his team.

If that’s the case, it was a big and powerful step forward provided by rookie running back C.J. Spiller(notes).

It took four plays into the Bills opening drive for the first-round draft pick to begin delivering on his dynamic billing by scoring on a 31-yard run and sparking a 34-21 win over the Indianapolis Colts in a preseason game Thursday.

It came in Spiller’s debut as starter in place of veterans Fred Jackson(notes) and Marshawn Lynch(notes), who were both injured a week earlier.



The only disappointment was the small crowd of 39,583—more than 14,000 below capacity—that turned out for the fourth of an eight-game, five-year series the Bills are playing in Toronto.

“I think you can see tonight why we drafted C.J.,” Gailey said of the player selected ninth overall out of Clemson. “Obviously, running the ball is what he does best. And he made an unbelievable run on that touchdown.”

Spiller broke two tackles on his way to the end zone, and capped the score with a shifty double step that fooled Antoine Bethea(notes).

“I knew there were going to be a lot of people that wanted to see what I could with both of our guys down,” said Spiller, who finished with 10 carries for 54 yards and a 2-yard catch. “It felt good to get out there and make a couple of plays.”

The Bills offense followed suit in bouncing back from last week’s 42-17 loss at Washington.

Trent Edwards(notes) furthered his bid to reclaim the starting quarterback job he lost midway through last season by going 5 for 8 for 93 yards, including a 70-yard touchdown pass to Lee Evans(notes).

The 14 points scored by Buffalo’s first-stringers more than doubled the two field goals they had managed in their previous six preseason games, dating to last year. Rian Lindell(notes) hit a 24-yard with 22 seconds left in the first half to put Buffalo ahead for good, 24-21.

Peyton Manning(notes) and the high-powered Colts (0-2) didn’t disappoint in what proved to be a wide-open and entertaining first half. After opening with a three-and-out, Manning engineered two scoring drives on the next four series, including a perfectly placed 21-yard touchdown pass over the middle to tight end Jacob Tamme(notes) on a third-and-9. Joseph Addai(notes) also scored on a 17-yard run.

Manning went 8 for 15 for 91 yards, with an interception that was returned 78 yards for a touchdown by Terrence McGee(notes). Manning was attempting to squeeze a pass into Anthony Gonzalez(notes) when defender Drayton Florence(notes) got his hand in, deflecting the ball directly to McGee, who ran it back untouched up the left sideline.

“We’ve still got some work to do. That’s kind of what preseason is for,” said Manning, the NFL MVP last season. “You want everything to go perfect while you’re in there. That’s not always the case, but I think you’ve got to have those kind of expectations.”

Backup quarterback Curtis Painter(notes) had a solid showing after he was booed off the field while throwing three interceptions in a 37-17 loss to San Francisco on Sunday. On his second series, Painter drove the Colts 81 yards on two plays for a touchdown. After hitting Taj Smith(notes) for a 38-yard pass, Painter went back to Smith for a 43-yard touchdown pass.

“Curtis Painter certainly had a better evening,” Colts coach Jim Caldwell said. “I think he played well, threw the ball well.”

The big loser this week has been Rogers Communication, which has been under heavy criticism in the Toronto media this week for paying the Bills $78 million two years ago for the right to host the series, which runs through 2012.

Neither of the first three games of the series fully sold out the 54,000-seat facility.

The crowd that did show proved lively, but it’s unclear how many paid full price for their tickets, which ranged from $75 to $275. About 15 minutes before the game, a group of three fans purchased lower bowl tickets, originally priced at $275, for half price from a scalper.

Though there were numerous fans wearing Colts jerseys, the Bills did have the larger contingent, and attracted several loud and extended cheers throughout much of the first half.

Manning took time to take in the atmosphere.

“I thought it was good. I didn’t know what to expect,” he said. “I thought the fans, it seemed like they were all having a good time up there.”

Spiller might have had the best time, and attracted much of the praise from his teammates.

“I don’t mean to single one guy out,” Edwards said. “But I think what this means is we’ve got a really good running back. C.J. Spiller, it was a lot of fun handing the ball to him tonight. He made some good defensive players miss.”
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Larry Johnson gets start as Redskins host Ravens
By JOSEPH WHITE, AP Sports Writer
ASHBURN, Va. (AP)—Last week, it was Clinton Portis(notes). Now Larry Johnson(notes) has a turn at the feature role in the crowded competition for playing time in the Washington Redskins backfield.

Johnson will start Saturday night’s preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens as coach Mike Shanahan continues to sort out how best to handle a trio of older running backs out to prove they’re not past their prime.

“Larry’s been very consistent,” Shanahan said, “but I do see a sense of urgency this week. He’s going to get an opportunity to showcase his talents.”

The third back in the veteran mix is Willie Parker(notes), who will get to run with the first unit in next week’s game against the New York Jets.

“We will get a chance to see these guys in game situations,” Shanahan said. “We have had a chance to evaluate them in practice, but it is always a little hard to evaluate backs when people are not tackling them.”

Johnson will turn 31 in November, Parker will turn 30 in November, and Portis hits 29 on the first day of September. Johnson’s last 1,000-yard season came in 2006, when he piled up 1,789 yards with Kansas City. Parker last hit the four-digit mark in 2007, gaining 1,316 with Pittsburgh. Portis ran for 1,487 with the Redskins two years ago, but he missed half of last season with a concussion.

The additions of Johnson and Parker have put Portis on notice that he’s not irreplaceable. Although he entered training camp at the top of the depth chart, he had to play more than his usual token amount in the first preseason game, carrying six times for 22 yards.

Johnson and Parker sat out the first game, waiting their turns. For Johnson, it’s a chance to show he still has something left after declining performance and off-the-field issues led to his departure last year from the Chiefs.

“My body’s still fresh and young,” Johnson said. “People who sit on the couch, when they hit their 30s, they give up on the things that they can do (or) they used to do when they were 21. Being an athlete, you’re year-round working out and doing the things you need to do to keep yourself that way, and so being 30 doesn’t really change anything.”

Both the Ravens and Redskins got off to good preseason starts last week. Joe Flacco(notes) led two scoring drives in Baltimore’s win over Carolina, and Donovan McNabb(notes) threw a touchdown pass in his Washington debut in a victory over Buffalo.

The second game is usually more telling, with starters on both sides seeing more action. There’s also the annual debate as to whether these two teams have an actual rivalry—or if they’re just neighbors who get together every now and then. The Redskins barely broached the topic this week, but Baltimore coach John Harbaugh tried to talk it up a little.

“When you get on the field and you look over there and you see the burgundy and gold, and you see that that’s the team you’re playing, the competitive juices start flowing,” Harbaugh said, “and I’m sure they will for them, too.”
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:19 PM   #1875
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The Bears have seen a blitz before, right?

Mike Martz told the truth: The Bears pulled quarterback Jay Cutler after only eight plays of their exhibition opener because the Chargers were blitzing. Since when can you tell the truth in Lovieland, the happiest place on Earth?

Moving right along, one thing I can’t understand is how players can work rigorously year-round to stay in shape, how teams can stage a series of mini-camps and offseason team activities that are mandatory despite the voluntary label, and everybody on the roster has played a lot of football, but yet, the idea of a blitz in an exhibition game becomes so scary and shocking that the star quarterback must be removed until the terror level is reduced to blue.

If there is hard talk of a two-game preseason, then part of the plan presumes a preparedness for all things football. That includes picking up the blitz.

Thing is, Cutler completed his two passes against blitzes. But then he got sacked on one play and ran out of bounds, and that was it.

Maybe it’s a question of the Bears practicing against the blitz during training camp. Practicing effectively, I should say.

Said Martz: “We're still kind of putting things in so when they are pressuring as much as they were in a preseason game, which is fine, everybody does that so it doesn't make any difference.’’

But apparently, it did make a difference, even though, again, we’re not talking about some newfangled football tactic. The Bears have seen this before, and maybe I’m wrong, but the blitz is also something they should’ve expected to see from the Chargers. The Chargers play a 3-4 defense. Blitzing is what that defense does. Did the Bears think the Chargers would count to three Mississippi before rushing the passer?

The bad news is, the Bears new offense didn't get the snaps it had hoped for. The good news is, Cutler is able to take snaps in this week’s game, something backup Caleb Hanie can’t say. I’m not sure if that validates the Bears’ in-game decision or indicts their offseason and preseason approach.
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