First the Karate Kid, Next Spiderman? - Page 7 - The Orange Mane

TheReverend · 06-04-2010, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lomax

I don't know where exactly you think I "blew it out of proportion". Clearly in addition to your flame-baiting prowess, you are also quite skilled at playing the victim.

I'm sure you created a thread about not liking Blacks playing Whites because you love constructive debate.

Now you're just baiting me, so an actual response clearly isn't worth it.

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Originally Posted by Xenos

But once again, you still haven't explained to me how Parker's skin color is so important to him as a character and why someone who isn't white couldn't play the same role. IMO Peter has never been defined by his skin color. It's his humble beginnings and his idealistic views in the face of cynicism that makes his stand out. There's literally nothing about his skin color that makes it intrinsically important to that character beside one's memories of his physical appearance. And as shown by other posters, white people have played iconic historic roles that were not white either.

And personally, I think Dev Patel looks more like Sokka than Jackson Rathborne. And Dante Basco, who voices Zuko in the show, looks more like his animated character than McCarthey.

Totally agree with your bolded section. The girl who voiced Kitara could've pulled it off too. I think Sokka was cast as an after-thought to how they cast Kitara though. You really can't have the girl playing Kitara play her and have Dev play her brother.

As for Spiderman, yes it's that and more. It's also him battling through his awkwardness and so on. And no, a black character definitely doesn't take any of those issues away, but it's absolutely a massive change to one of the most recognizable characters in our culture... and for no reason whatsoever.

When they made a black Captain America, it wasn't Steve Rogers, so it was a good story. Doing something along those lines with Spiderman would be fine.

TheReverend · 06-04-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Donald Glover is so talented...loved all of his Derrick Comedy stuff.

^

The best part of each Community episode is the last 20 seconds when he and Abed do some quirky thing before it rolls into parks and rec

Dagmar · 06-04-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

^

The best part of each Community episode is the last 20 seconds when he and Abed do some quirky thing before it rolls into parks and rec

Ok, to be fair the paintball episode was one of the best episodes of television I have seen in years!

TheReverend · 06-04-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

Ok, to be fair the paintball episode was one of the best episodes of television I have seen in years!

Change that to the pool team episode and I'll agree.

Irish Stout · 06-04-2010, 01:55 PM

Spiderman is a p***Y.

Miss I. · 06-05-2010, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Irish McStout

Spiderman is a p***Y.

Does this mean he's strong and deeply sexy. I get so confused by men's sexist doubletalk.

El Minion · 12-20-2010, 12:22 PM

Racists Demand Thor Boycott
White supremacist group hates the idea of Elba as Heimdall.
December 17, 2010

A white supremacist group is so peeved about black English actor Idris Elba playing the Norse mythological god Heimdall in Thor that they're urging a boycott of the upcoming Marvel movie.

The Guardian reports that the U.S.-based Council of Conservative Citizens has established a web site to allow other like-minded people to boycott the Kenneth Branagh-directed film because of the change in Heimdall's race.

Marvel told IGN during our visit to the Thor set that the Asgardians in the film are, as they are in the Earth X comics, actually aliens rather than gods. They visited earth in the ancient past, where their culture, language, beliefs and customs influenced the development of certain human civilizations, such as the Vikings.

More Thor Videos

Old Dude · 12-20-2010, 12:29 PM

As if a boycott by a few racists would actually hurt the Thor box-office.

TheReverend · 12-20-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dude

As if a boycott by a few racists would actually hurt the Thor box-office.

I thought the ancient astronaut aspect of the movie that article revealed was the most interesting part, personally.

Traveler · 12-20-2010, 12:35 PM

http://thor-trailer.blogspot.com/

Some peoples children.....

NUB · 12-20-2010, 12:36 PM

I wouldn't mind Donald Glover as Spider-Man. I think the character #1 has to look like a nerdy, average kid before anything. Tobey Maguire fit that role pretty well and the very least Glover looks it.

/necropinion

Houshyamama · 12-20-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

Why does his race make a difference to the character of Spiderman?

Because Spiderman is white.

Personally, I think Liam Neeson would make a great Gandhi.

bombay · 12-20-2010, 12:44 PM

I don't really like Spiderman. I like Spongebob better.

A friend of mine was in NYC a few weeks ago and went down to Times Square. He ran into Spongebob, Patrick, Plankton, and Sandy. Sadly, he discovered that Patrick was an idiot and very pretentious. Sandy was cool, though, and they went and partied at the bubble for a while. So anyway, he brought back autographs for me from Spongebob and Plankton. Plankton's autograph is very tiny, however, and I can't actually see it. But they were in NYC so that proves it was the real Spongebob.

Beantown Bronco · 12-20-2010, 12:46 PM

This thread was the first thing I thought of when I watched the first episode of this season's "Community". The opening scene was of everyone waking up/getting ready for their day and when they got to Donald Glover's room, he jumped out of bed wearing full Spiderman pajamas. Classic.

Crushaholic · 12-20-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Dude

As if a boycott by a few racists would actually hurt the Thor box-office.

The movie studio producing Thor should put this group front and center, alerting the media that there will be a huge protest of the movie. It would be like the WKRP In Cincinnati episode, where the elderly group shouted "Hell, no-We won't go!" in the lobby of the station. It was the best publicity they had, to date...

Houshyamama · 12-20-2010, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagmar

But that has themes of race. Spiderman should not.

So it is politically incorrect for a little white kid to relate to a white superhero?

Is it politically incorrect for a little black kid to relate to a black superhero?

As whites, apparently we're not allowed to derive pride from being white or to associate with white icons.

We're just supposed to feel bad about all the naughty things we've done.

worm · 12-20-2010, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay

...Sadly, he discovered that Patrick was an idiot..

I had a hunch that this was the case!!

Tom G · 12-20-2010, 01:02 PM

Hey. Who gets to play MJ?

Tom G · 12-20-2010, 01:06 PM

And what's the big deal anyway? They added a black swan to the Swan Lake ballet.

What's that?

That's part of the original ballet created in the 1800s?

Oh....

bronco militia · 12-20-2010, 01:08 PM

cartoon fans are racist a-holes

Garcia Bronco · 12-20-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NUB

I wouldn't mind Donald Glover as Spider-Man. I think the character #1 has to look like a nerdy, average kid before anything. Tobey Maguire fit that role pretty well and the very least Glover looks it.

/necropinion

I thought Tobey was a terrible choice.

Beantown Bronco · 12-20-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom G

Hey. Who gets to play MJ?

The way this thread is going, I'd guess Lucy Liu.

TheReverend · 12-20-2010, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Beantown Bronco

This thread was the first thing I thought of when I watched the first episode of this season's "Community". The opening scene was of everyone waking up/getting ready for their day and when they got to Donald Glover's room, he jumped out of bed wearing full Spiderman pajamas. Classic.

Do you feel like Britta is way hotter this season for some reason?

Beantown Bronco · 12-20-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheReverend

Do you feel like Britta is way hotter this season for some reason?

Yes, I'm lobbying hard for a director's cut of the Zombie episode in particular.

El Minion · 12-20-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Houshyamama

Because Spiderman is white.

Personally, I think Liam Neeson would make a great Gandhi.

That hasn't stop Hollywood from putting white actors in non-white roles. John Wayne as Genghis Khan or Mickey Rooney as Japanese neighbor in Breakfast at Tiffany's. And most recently with Angelina Jolie playing the real life Afro-Chinese-Cuban, Mariane Pearl. If white actors can play real life people of color, why can't non-whites play fictional white characters?

Casper Van Dien will never be confused for being Filipino, yet he played the protagonist role as the Filipino Juan Rico in Starship Troopers adaptation.

I think the people that that complain if it ain't white it ain't right, doth protest too much.

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NUB Just Crafted New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,448 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I wouldn't mind Donald Glover as Spider-Man. I think the character #1 has to look like a nerdy, average kid before anything. Tobey Maguire fit that role pretty well and the very least Glover looks it. /necropinion Last edited by NUB; 12-20-2010 at 12:41 PM..

12-20-2010, 12:44 PM	#163
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,331	I don't really like Spiderman. I like Spongebob better. A friend of mine was in NYC a few weeks ago and went down to Times Square. He ran into Spongebob, Patrick, Plankton, and Sandy. Sadly, he discovered that Patrick was an idiot and very pretentious. Sandy was cool, though, and they went and partied at the bubble for a while. So anyway, he brought back autographs for me from Spongebob and Plankton. Plankton's autograph is very tiny, however, and I can't actually see it. But they were in NYC so that proves it was the real Spongebob.

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El Minion Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,531	Racists Demand Thor Boycott White supremacist group hates the idea of Elba as Heimdall. December 17, 2010 A white supremacist group is so peeved about black English actor Idris Elba playing the Norse mythological god Heimdall in Thor that they're urging a boycott of the upcoming Marvel movie. The Guardian reports that the U.S.-based Council of Conservative Citizens has established a web site to allow other like-minded people to boycott the Kenneth Branagh-directed film because of the change in Heimdall's race. Marvel told IGN during our visit to the Thor set that the Asgardians in the film are, as they are in the Earth X comics, actually aliens rather than gods. They visited earth in the ancient past, where their culture, language, beliefs and customs influenced the development of certain human civilizations, such as the Vikings. More Thor Videos

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