OT-- Whos your top 5 favorite Guitar player

[maher_tyler]

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

No I meant if chord was:

c7 #5 #9- c-e-g#-Bb-d# I will play:

Melodic Minor- c c# d# e f# g# Bb c

The scale you just spelled isn't C melodic minor - it's C altered (a.k.a. super locrian or diminished whole tone.)

The altered scale is actually the seventh mode of the melodic minor scale.

So, to generate the sound of C altered over a C+7(#9) chord, you would play melodic minor scale up a half step from the root of the chord.

C+7(#9) ---> play C# melodic minor.

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Another trick on this chord is to play a pentatonic scale starting on the sharp 4. That hits all the cool extensions #4 #5 b7 b9 #9

I'm assuming you're talking about major pentatonic? If so, then you can also think in terms of the relative minor pentatonic and play a minor pentatonic scale a minor third above the root of the chord, e.g., over C+7(#9) play D# minor pentatonic.

Why?

Because there is only one minor pentatonic scale in the melodic minor scale, and it's derived from the second mode (dorian b2.)

What is the root note for the second mode of C# melodic minor?

It's D#.


This minor pentatonic superimposition will give you the same altered sound as melodic minor up a half step described above.

Another cool sound is minor pentatonic a whole step below the root of the chord, e.g., for C+7(#9) play Bb minor pentatonic.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

That I don't know but am working trying to understand the modes better.

could you please explain a little more

The harmonic minor scale is like a melodic minor scale with a flatted sixth degree.

Or, you can think of it as a natural minor scale with a raised seventh.

Either way, the intervals are: 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7.

Example: C harmonic minor = C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, B

Start the above scale on the 5th degree (G) instead of the root, (C) and you have the fifth mode of C harmonic minor: G phrygian dominant (a.k.a. phrygian major.)

G phrygian dominant = G, Ab, B, C, D, Eb, F = 1, b2(b9), 3, 4, 5, b6(b13), b7

As you can see, the scale is a perfect fit for a dominant chord with a b9 and a #5 (or b13.)

In actual practice, the scale is used most commonly over a minor ii-V-I progression, e.g., Dmi7(b5) | G7(#5 b9) | Cmi7, etc.

[cutthemdown]

LABF is blowing my mind. Thanks dude I am going to read this a few times.

[gunns]

Originally Posted by Cito Pelon

Hendrix could go at it, but I resent him to this day because of the drug culture he led people into with his talent and charisma. Those were crazy days, people thought he was a god of some kind, tried to imitate him. Dude OD'd on heroin and who knows what else. Those years in the late-60's, early-70's were really bad, just plain crazy. You have no idea what it was like.

I do, and you must have resented most of those that played back then because they were into it also. I sincerely doubt that he led anyone into that drug culture, it was wide open, influences coming from more places than just the music industry and I for one had no idea his drug of choice until he died. Same with Janis. There were a lot who did it that most of us had no idea until much later when we found out they were in drug rehab for it. Not all made the transformation that say a Whitney Houston did. For some the drug did enhance their performances, sad to say.

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

The harmonic minor scale is like a melodic minor scale with a flatted sixth degree.

Or, you can think of it as a natural minor scale with a raised seventh.

Either way, the intervals are: 1, 2, b3, 4, 5, b6, 7.

Example: C harmonic minor = C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, B

Start the above scale on the 5th degree (G) instead of the root, (C) and you have the fifth mode of C harmonic minor: G phrygian dominant (a.k.a. phrygian major.)

G phrygian dominant = G, Ab, B, C, D, Eb, F = 1, b2(b9), 3, 4, 5, b6(b13), b7

As you can see, the scale is a perfect fit for a dominant chord with a b9 and a #5 (or b13.)

In actual practice, the scale is used most commonly over a minor ii-V-I progression, e.g., Dmi7(b5) | G7(#5 b9) | Cmi7, etc.

I just put my fingers on the frets and play a little blues. This makes me feel like an amphibian, looking through a film of water up at the land.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I just put my fingers on the frets and play a little blues. This makes me feel like an amphibian, looking through a film of water up at the land.

Don't let it scare you - it's just another sound.

Just another color to add to your musical palette (or not.)

I like to have as many colors available to me as possible - even if I don't always use them or just use them sparingly.

[Quoydogs]

Originally Posted by l.a. Broncos fan

don't let it scare you - it's just another sound.

Just another color to add to your musical palette (or not.)

i like to have as many colors available to me as possible - even if i don't always use them or just use them sparingly.

roy-g-biv

[Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Don't let it scare you - it's just another sound.

Just another color to add to your musical palette (or not.)

I like to have as many colors available to me as possible - even if I don't always use them or just use them sparingly.

That's just waaaaaaay over my head. I didn't even know there was such stuff.

I should turn in my guitar.

[TonyR]

No love for Yngwie Malmsteen? I honestly don't know a lot about him, so certainly not one of my "favorites", just surprised I haven't seen him mentioned since I've heard many times over the years that he's "one of the best ever".

[Quoydogs]

Originally Posted by TonyR

No love for Yngwie Malmsteen? I honestly don't know a lot about him, so certainly not one of my "favorites", just surprised I haven't seen him mentioned since I've heard many times over the years that he's "one of the best ever".

He is kinda like steve Vai to me. He is good for a couple songs but then it is just noise from there.

If you want to listen to some good Guitar go to Pandora and create a station and just put Satriani in there. Man it has put up some good stuff.

[TonyR]

Time magazines best ever list:

http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...916544,00.html

[Quoydogs]

Originally Posted by TonyR

Time magazines best ever list:

http://www.time.com/time/photogaller...916544,00.html

Someone is smoking crack, they put Johnny Ramon,Slash and chuck berry as the top ten. Something is messed up in there head. Chuck berry

[bronclvr]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

I should turn in my guitar.

This Post reminds me-I'm going to buy a new Acoustic 6 String in the near future-in the last Year or so I bought a new Taylor 855ce (12 string) and LOVE it, so I don't think I'll buy another 12 in my life, the Taylor just does it for me. For a 6 String, I've gone through a few different Guitars in the last 5-8 Years, and I currently have an Ovation Legend, and it's a great Guitar-keeps it's tune, has a narrow nut, a cut-out Body, a fast Fretboard, is Amp ready, has a good sound. Except for the fact that it's a shallow Body (which is great if you want to play by yourself), I really like it.

I'm looking for a Blues Guitar to play some slide, leads and just have some fun with-I have a self imposed $3000.00 limit here, so let's not talk about a Custom Shop special, ok? I'm looking for ideas-it must be a cut-out, have a narrow nut, and a good sound (I won't want to Amplify it)-I want some quality, so the usual suspects are probably best (Martin, Taylor, Gibson, etc.)-anyone have any suggestions? After this, I'm going for a Dobro-Sorry for the hi-jack-

[Quoydogs]

Originally Posted by bronclvr

This Post reminds me-I'm going to buy a new Acoustic 6 String in the near future-in the last Year or so I bought a new Taylor 855ce (12 string) and LOVE it, so I don't think I'll buy another 12 in my life, the Taylor just does it for me. For a 6 String, I've gone through a few different Guitars in the last 5-8 Years, and I currently have an Ovation Legend, and it's a great Guitar-keeps it's tune, has a narrow nut, a cut-out Body, a fast Fretboard, is Amp ready, has a good sound. Except for the fact that it's a shallow Body (which is great if you want to play by yourself), I really like it.

I'm looking for a Blues Guitar to play some slide, leads and just have some fun with-I have a self imposed $3000.00 limit here, so let's not talk about a Custom Shop special, ok? I'm looking for ideas-it must be a cut-out, have a narrow nut, and a good sound (I won't want to Amplify it)-I want some quality, so the usual suspects are probably best (Martin, Taylor, Gibson, etc.)-anyone have any suggestions? After this, I'm going for a Dobro-Sorry for the hi-jack-

Play a National before you pick up the Dobro. I did and it's so much better.

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN

Don't let it scare you - it's just another sound.

Just another color to add to your musical palette (or not.)

I like to have as many colors available to me as possible - even if I don't always use them or just use them sparingly.

The hard part is getting it to come out in my solos on the fly.

[bronclvr]

Originally Posted by Quoydogs

Play a National before you pick up the Dobro. I did and it's so much better.

I will-thanks for the suggestion-

[cutthemdown]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

That's just waaaaaaay over my head. I didn't even know there was such stuff.

I should turn in my guitar.

LABF is the real deal on this stuff Rho. It is tough realizing how much there is too music and also can be discouraging if you try and compare yourself to other players all the time.

I try to look at it more like a personal journey and less of a competition. The cool thing is most musicians see it same way and won't discourage you by showing you up. Most of them well say something good about your playing, then do what LABF does and try to give some pointers or tips to go a little further.

I love music and try not to get discouraged by just accepting there will always be better players then me. Much better players. But unlike sports where you have winners and losers everyone can win playing music. You may not be able to get rich but you can really get a lot out of it.

If it wasn't for making 1/3 of my living off music I don't think I would be very happy.

So even though LABF takes me to school he does it to pass on knowledge not to show me up. Even though on other subjects we don't get a long so well.

Music is powerful and can bring people together.

[BlaK-Argentina]

John Petrucci - To me, and for the style he plays (which is the one I love) he is the perfect guitarist. Amazing tone, extremely technical, can play about anything yet has great feel. I laugh my ass off at people who say he's just a robot. Listen to this!



Andy Timmons - Easily top 2 for me. If you don't know this guy, you're really missing out. He would probably be my favorite if he had more solo stuff out.



Eric Johnson - Love this guy! Really fun to listen to.


Marco Sfogli - Has worked with Dream Theater's James LaBrie and has a solo album out called There's Hope that's just terrific. Also a great Mesa tone that will blow your socks off!



Kiko Loureiro - I don't like Angra at all but his solo work is great. He incorporates some brazilian stuff in some songs and it sounds amazing. This is one of my favorite songs:

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by Rohirrim

That's just waaaaaaay over my head. I didn't even know there was such stuff.

I should turn in my guitar.

For me, this is exactly what keeps me interested in music - the understanding that I will never know all there is to know.

I know there will always be new discoveries, new challenges, new conquests, etc., and that I will never get bored or run out of things to do.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

LABF is the real deal on this stuff Rho. It is tough realizing how much there is too music and also can be discouraging if you try and compare yourself to other players all the time.

I try to look at it more like a personal journey and less of a competition. The cool thing is most musicians see it same way and won't discourage you by showing you up. Most of them well say something good about your playing, then do what LABF does and try to give some pointers or tips to go a little further.

I love music and try not to get discouraged by just accepting there will always be better players then me. Much better players. But unlike sports where you have winners and losers everyone can win playing music. You may not be able to get rich but you can really get a lot out of it.

If it wasn't for making 1/3 of my living off music I don't think I would be very happy.

So even though LABF takes me to school he does it to pass on knowledge not to show me up. Even though on other subjects we don't get a long so well.

Music is powerful and can bring people together.

Good post.

Being around musicians who are more accomplished and/or knowledgeable doesn't need to be discouraging - it can be inspiring and motivating. It's how most of us grow as musicians.

Like you suggested, most musicians I know who can mop the floor with me in terms of ability and/or knowledge are also pretty humble human beings who are willing to share what they know. On those rare occasions when one of these people turns out to be an a$$hole, I've learned to look past the personality in order to get whatever it is I want to learn from that person.

As for the sports comparison, my only complaint is that I wish music were more like sports insofar as the people with the most talent and ability usually get the job and the $$$.

[crawdad]

I have known this guy for years. He is a helluva guitar player.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Steve-...c/273764478442

[crawdad]

Check this out as well.

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Classic-.../dp/1423468295

[Paladin]

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