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Old 02-08-2010, 02:21 PM   #376
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Seriously? You bump a thread as if he isnt awesome? Dude just went to another SB and despite losing, still will go down as the best or top 3 QB of all time. ELway lost his first three so I wonder how you would have felt if someone bumped that type of thread. He made one big mistake. Bumping this thread as if this game means he isnt awesome is your big mistake. I am sure it isnt the first nor the last. I would take him anyday of the week to be a Bronco QB.
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Old 02-08-2010, 02:27 PM   #377
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Manning > Elway

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Old 02-08-2010, 02:32 PM   #378
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Fair enough. But, New Orleans spent a lot of resources trying to put play-makers on the defensive side of the ball, and it paid off.

For all of the talk of the big armed QBs... it was a special teams and a defensive play that decided the game.
Popps... come on man. i know you don't think it's that simple.

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Old 02-08-2010, 03:07 PM   #379
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Seriously? You bump a thread as if he isnt awesome? Dude just went to another SB and despite losing, still will go down as the best or top 3 QB of all time. ELway lost his first three so I wonder how you would have felt if someone bumped that type of thread. He made one big mistake. Bumping this thread as if this game means he isnt awesome is your big mistake. I am sure it isnt the first nor the last. I would take him anyday of the week to be a Bronco QB.
Really sorry to ruin your time browsing the Orange mane.

Just still sticks in my craw that TJ posted this immediately after he beat our asses back in the day, I thought it might be a tad bit ironic to post after Manning's int lost his team the Super Bowl.

Made for a few good chuckles.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:09 PM   #380
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #381
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Really sorry to ruin your time browsing the Orange mane.

Just still sticks in my craw that TJ posted this immediately after he beat our asses back in the day, I thought it might be a tad bit ironic to post after Manning's int lost his team the Super Bowl.

Made for a few good chuckles.
Manning threw for 333 yards, a TD and a INT.

That's pretty good in the superbowl.
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Old 02-08-2010, 03:15 PM   #382
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Manning is a great quarterback. These teams that he's taking to the superbowl are kind of like the teams Elway dragged to the 'bowl in the '80s. They wouldn't be close without him.
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:03 PM   #383
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When I first saw this thread I was like, what? Then I saw the date on it.

Why is it every two years there's some new "greatest of all time?" Kind of contradicts the theory.

And it's funny how the last guy you see is always the 'greatest.'

Manning is 9-9 in the playoffs. Easy to stand out with less competition on the field. They could vote for him as MVP ten times, and it wouldn't increase or decrease his ability or talent level in the least.

Who Dat?
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Old 02-08-2010, 07:43 PM   #384
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I still don't think that New Orleans were more complete. The Colts were essentially missing one of the best defensive linement in the NFL, an elite pass rusher, against a team that has been known to struggle a bit against a pass rush.

New Orleans won, but to say that they were that much better is a little bit of a stretch.
How about New Orleans played better this game and made more plays when it counted? That is it, don't you think Coyer could of stumbled into a couple calls and get a stop?
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Really sorry to ruin your time browsing the Orange mane.

Just still sticks in my craw that TJ posted this immediately after he beat our asses back in the day, I thought it might be a tad bit ironic to post after Manning's int lost his team the Super Bowl.

Made for a few good chuckles.


Get over it then. He deserved credit for being the best player on the field that day. I don't have any regrets for giving credit where credit is due.

I don't think Manning is better than Elway ever was. But he's a damn fine quarterback who is one of the best signal callers to play the game.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:14 PM   #386
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Manning > Elway

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only because of the crap rules they have now. I would love to see how manning would of done back when elway played. Nowadays you can't even sneeze at a qb withoug getting a penalty or a fine.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:44 PM   #387
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Get over it then. He deserved credit for being the best player on the field that day. I don't have any regrets for giving credit where credit is due.

I don't think Manning is better than Elway ever was. But he's a damn fine quarterback who is one of the best signal callers to play the game.
I should but I can't; that loss still ****ing stings.
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Old 02-08-2010, 08:48 PM   #388
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only because of the crap rules they have now. I would love to see how manning would of done back when elway played. Nowadays you can't even sneeze at a qb withoug getting a penalty or a fine.
I actually agree with this. I don't think it's any coincidence that Manning's stats exploded the year after they nerfed the cornerback position.
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only because of the crap rules they have now. I would love to see how manning would of done back when elway played. Nowadays you can't even sneeze at a qb withoug getting a penalty or a fine.
If Manning played with our OL in the 80's he would looked like elephant man in 3 yrs.
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only because of the crap rules they have now. I would love to see how manning would of done back when elway played. Nowadays you can't even sneeze at a qb withoug getting a penalty or a fine.
Manning is a specific passer who relies on hard study and rhythmic passing. Force him into showing his physical limitations and he quickly becomes average. Let's not forget the guy is good, he's been in the same system for a decade with little turnover in assistant coaches. Plus, he never gets touched. Pretty much like a certain qb in New England that I call the ultimate corporate quarterback. Add that to the current rules and there you go. There isn't a damn thing Peyton does that Marino, Kelly or Elway couldn't do. Give me a break.

Funny story here:

http://theredzone.org/BlogDescription.aspx?EntryId=3135

guess Peyton's "greatness" can't buy everything.

Peyton + Eli + bag of bubblegum < Elway

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guess Peyton's "greatness" can't buy everything.
Wrong!!



(H/T Popps)
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Old 02-08-2010, 09:26 PM   #392
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(h/t popps)
quick, we need the red circle of doom on that!
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only because of the crap rules they have now. I would love to see how manning would of done back when elway played. Nowadays you can't even sneeze at a qb withoug getting a penalty or a fine.
I disagree. Watch the guy play. With or without the rules he is scary accurate and has a great arm. On top of that he's basically a playing coach.
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Old 02-08-2010, 10:47 PM   #394
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Peyton + Eli + bag of bubblegum < Elway
I was with you right up until you threw in the bag of bubblegum. [sigh]
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Old 02-08-2010, 11:25 PM   #395
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If Manning played with our OL in the 80's he would looked like elephant man in 3 yrs.
He already does a little. He has a 3-story forehead and the face of a dead gladiator.
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Old 02-09-2010, 06:14 AM   #396
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Manning > Elway

sorry folks.
Just curious. Hold old are you if you don't mind me asking?
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:26 AM   #397
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Get over it then. He deserved credit for being the best player on the field that day. I don't have any regrets for giving credit where credit is due.

I don't think Manning is better than Elway ever was. But he's a damn fine quarterback who is one of the best signal callers to play the game.

.....but he gets extremely flustered when the pressure is on him and his team isn't ahead. His head looked like it was ready to EXPLODE in the fourth quarter.

BP=500 over 300
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:28 AM   #398
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I disagree. Watch the guy play. With or without the rules he is scary accurate and has a great arm. On top of that he's basically a playing coach.
As Rigs said, Manning wouldn't have survived two seasons during the Elway days when the football gods still allowed QB's to be assaulted.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:32 AM   #399
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Manning > Elway

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Dude if the NFL doesn't change the rules so Manning could succeed he isn't even mentioned with Elway
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Elway didn't have a Harrison, Wayne, Clark or James until the final third of his career when Smith, Mccaffary, Sharpe and TD arrived. Manning's had tools his whole career.

Apologies to the three amigos.
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