Should they give Cutler another week, or start Hanie? - Page 10 - The Orange Mane

BroncoDoug · 11-08-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

It's interesting, because I'm not hearing "franchise" anymore. (Which many of us explained to people during the offseason.)

Now I'm hearing... "He needs a great line, great receivers and a great defense."

In other words, he's like any other QB in the league. He's basically Kyle Orton with a stronger arm and a weaker brain.

Franchise, my ass. Manning is a franchise QB. Elway was a franchise QB. Steve Young... etc. Cutler is a big-armed guy with mechanical flaws and questionable intangibles.

yeah, I laughed when in the beggining of the game Joe Buck said "The Bears and their Franchise Quarterback Jay Cutler, take on the Cardinals....etc.."

azbroncfan · 11-08-2009, 04:58 PM

The bears got a competitive game from their franchise QB. It was 34-7 in second half before the typical Jay padded his stats.

rastaman · 11-08-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

As long as Jay's not happy with it, Im happy with it. He wanted out, he got his trade, seemed happy with the Bears getting him and he is struggling to be a .500 QB. What more is there not to love? Regardless of what other weaknesses the Bears have, the fact remains he thinks he can lead any team to the promise land and the expectations were so high that he could do just that from the media and the fans. Sure it isnt all on Jay but that wont matter in Chicago. He was their savior and instead he is more like Pontious Pilate during any 4th quarter drive.

Meh! Cutler only wanted out of Denver after McDaniels quit lying and fessed up to Cutler that he did indeed tried to trade Cutler for Cassel. Once McD revealed to Cutler that he couldn't be sure whether Cutler was in Broncos future plans to run McD's NE offensive scheme(s) all bets were off.

Hence, McD's attempt to trade Cutler for Cassel. The rest is history.....and a trade was demanded by Cutler.

If McD was unsure whether he wanted Cutler, entertained the possibility of trading Cutler for Cassel, and McD couldn't guarantee he wouldn't seek future trades involving Cutler......why shouldn't Cutler seek/demand a trade on his own behalf?

Point is, McD was making a business decision with possible trading Cutler for Cassel and McD made it known to Cutler that due to the best interest of the Broncos.....he couldn't guarantee Jay that he would continue to look into trading Cutler in the future.

So Cutler made a business decision and couldn't promise McD that he wanted to remain in Denver as well.....and seeked/demanded trade.

rastaman · 11-08-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by azbroncfan

The bears got a competitive game from their franchise QB. It was 34-7 in second half before the typical Jay padded his stats.

Yeah I know! Too bad Cutler couldn't have played on the defensive side of the ball to rush the Qb and play in the secondary some today.

Once Cutler learns how to block for himself when his O line isn't getting done, the Bears will finally start winning some games.

broncocalijohn · 11-08-2009, 08:35 PM

! He is still fighting the wrong fight. Rasta, I am proud to say that we hardly ever agree on any topic that has a fierce battle of opinions.

rastaman · 11-08-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

! He is still fighting the wrong fight. Rasta, I am proud to say that we hardly ever agree on any topic that has a fierce battle of opinions.

Cutler and McDaniels were never meant to play on the same team. Sometimes destiny has a funny way of working thhings out. I think both McD and Cutler will be successful down the road.

broncocalijohn · 11-08-2009, 08:44 PM

if it is destiny and we are better for it, then i will take it as I pretty much have after the shock wore off.

azbroncfan · 11-08-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

Yeah I know! Too bad Cutler couldn't have played on the defensive side of the ball to rush the Qb and play in the secondary some today.

Once Cutler learns how to block for himself when his O line isn't getting done, the Bears will finally start winning some games.

Excuses excuses. Same thing everyone did here in Denver. He didn't win with one of the best OL's here and WR's so throw that out the window. How come he didn't lead his offense to more than 7 pts when it counted? Take his dink out of his mouth and now make an excuse for the loser Rasta.

Popps · 11-08-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

Yeah I know! Too bad Cutler couldn't have played on the defensive side of the ball to rush the Qb and play in the secondary some today.

Once Cutler learns how to block for himself when his O line isn't getting done, the Bears will finally start winning some games.

Yea, as soon as Cutler doesn't have to do anything out of the ordinary, he might stop pissing away the ball 3 times a game.

Sounds good. Like I said, he's basically Kyle Orton with a stronger arm and no brain.

Or, Rex Grossman with a different jersey number.

errand · 11-09-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

I think both McD and Cutler will be successful down the road.

too bad for you, only one of them is....

errand · 11-09-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

he's basically Kyle Orton with a stronger arm and no brain.

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...well, if he won games. Then he'd be Kyle orton with a stronger arm. right now he's a poor man's Jake Delhomme

BroncoInferno · 11-09-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by errand

...well, if he won games. Then he'd be Kyle orton with a stronger arm. right now he's a poor man's Jake Delhomme

That's not really fair...to Delhomme. He's actually won division titles and playoff games and had a MVP caliber performance in a losing effort in a Super Bowl.

tsiguy96 · 11-09-2009, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rastaman

Cutler and McDaniels were never meant to play on the same team. Sometimes destiny has a funny way of working thhings out. I think both McD and Cutler will be successful down the road.

but just 4 months ago, mcdaniels was a blubbering idiot who will never win games or be successful in the league, and cutler was the best QB this league has ever, ever seen....

Popps · 11-12-2009, 06:23 PM

Put 'em in!!!

BroncoBuff · 11-12-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Put 'em in!!!

Not gonna happen there, Einstein.

Cutler is the least of the Bears' worries.

Florida_Bronco · 11-12-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Not gonna happen there, Einstein.

Cutler is the least of the Bears' worries.

I don't know. He's looked marginal at best lately.

Dedhed · 11-12-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Not gonna happen there, Einstein.

Cutler is the least of the Bears' worries.

Wait, I thought the franchise QB made the Bears the immediate favorite to twin the division. What happened?

Other than a dozen INTs of course.

DomCasual · 11-12-2009, 07:05 PM

Man, he's getting worse. That was like bad Jake Plummer.

Popps · 11-12-2009, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

I don't know. He's looked marginal at best lately.

Marginal would be a huge upgrade.

Which is why I'm saying....

BroncoBuff · 11-12-2009, 07:11 PM

My bad, didn't even know the game was on.

3 ints by Cutler.... maybe I spoke too soon. He might be their biggest problem.

errand · 11-12-2009, 07:27 PM

I'm thinking some team is gonna draft a QB this coming year....too bad they won't be able to use a high !st rounder to do it though.....

Williams · 11-12-2009, 07:35 PM

http://boards.chicagobears.com/forum...d/1906298.aspx

...awesome

LRtagger · 11-12-2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Williams

http://boards.chicagobears.com/forum...d/1906298.aspx

...awesome

LMAO first reply is an excuse.

LRtagger · 11-12-2009, 07:41 PM

well **** i guess all the replies were excuses

Popps · 11-12-2009, 07:43 PM

Fuggin' hysterical.

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11-08-2009, 04:58 PM	#227
azbroncfan Ring of Famer Angry guntoting,meateating AMERICAN Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Scottsdale Posts: 8,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: TEBOW	The bears got a competitive game from their franchise QB. It was 34-7 in second half before the typical Jay padded his stats.

11-08-2009, 08:35 PM	#230
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	! He is still fighting the wrong fight. Rasta, I am proud to say that we hardly ever agree on any topic that has a fierce battle of opinions.

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broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	if it is destiny and we are better for it, then i will take it as I pretty much have after the shock wore off.

11-12-2009, 06:23 PM	#239
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Put 'em in!!!

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DomCasual The Dude abides. Shameless Homer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cocytus Posts: 13,167 Adopt-a-Bronco: Gus Frerotte	Man, he's getting worse. That was like bad Jake Plummer.

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BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	My bad, didn't even know the game was on. 3 ints by Cutler.... maybe I spoke too soon. He might be their biggest problem.

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errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,037	I'm thinking some team is gonna draft a QB this coming year....too bad they won't be able to use a high !st rounder to do it though.....

11-12-2009, 07:35 PM	#247
Williams Pro Bowler Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 665	http://boards.chicagobears.com/forum...d/1906298.aspx ...awesome

11-12-2009, 07:41 PM	#249
LRtagger Ring of Famer CUT THAT MEAT Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,255 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	well **** i guess all the replies were excuses

11-12-2009, 07:43 PM	#250
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Fuggin' hysterical.