Should they give Cutler another week, or start Hanie? - Page 9 - The Orange Mane

LittleFloyd · 10-26-2009, 11:59 AM

I sure hope they start Hennie and his balloon at QB.

BroncoDoug · 10-26-2009, 12:36 PM

http://www.dabears.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=28

Circle Orange · 10-26-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Look at that delivery.

Next week?

Nice guns. *catches eye*

Word is Kyle and Rexy are still texting and laughing. Karma is a mother.

Popps · 10-26-2009, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by McBronco_Doug

http://www.dabears.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=28

Orton was sacked 27 times last year with this Bears O-line
Cutler was sacked 11 times last year with the Broncos line

Orton is on pace to get sacked 24 times this year
Cutler is on pace to get sacked 30 times which is not that much

Cutler only got sacked once today. Cutler has been sacked only 2 more times than Orton.

Cutler has 10 INT's and Orton only has 1. Why are the Broncos 6-0 ? I think the answer is obvious. Cutler is the modern day Jeff George and Orton is above average and careful with the ball. One style is suited towards this bears style of offense and the other is not.

Funny.

True, but funny.

lex · 10-29-2009, 11:13 AM

BroncoDoug · 10-29-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Funny.

True, but funny.

Mmmhm, it pretty much sums up my thoughts on the whole situation

Popps · 11-08-2009, 11:41 AM

Tough call at this point. The season is pretty much over. Stick with Cutler, or look towards the future?

The Hanie watch is on!!!

rbackfactory80 · 11-08-2009, 11:45 AM

This thread has more merit than most believe.

KS Bronco · 11-08-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Tough call at this point. The season is pretty much over. Stick with Cutler, or look towards the future?

The Hanie watch is on!!!

bombay · 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM

What the hell happened in Chicago? SI saw them as a Super Bowl team in the preseason, and virtually all of the pronosticators picked either them or Minnesota to pick the division. They were viewed as a very good team by everyone. They came to Denver in game three of the preseason and we were all sure that if the Broncos just came out of that game healthy it would be awesome. Because we had no chance against the juggernaut that was the Bears. Now, it looks like the wheels are completely off, excuses abound for baby jay and the bears are commonly viewed as weak in every area. What the hell happened? Did cutler take these people down by himself?

KS Bronco · 11-08-2009, 11:58 AM

my schaudenfreude ass LOVES IT!

oubronco · 11-08-2009, 12:01 PM

Popps for one who is always b****ing about others talking about cutler you sure do have something for him are you sure your not gay for jay?

R8R H8R · 11-08-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bombay

What the hell happened in Chicago? SI saw them as a Super Bowl team in the preseason, and virtually all of the pronosticators picked either them or Minnesota to pick the division. They were viewed as a very good team by everyone. They came to Denver in game three of the preseason and we were all sure that if the Broncos just came out of that game healthy it would be awesome. Because we had no chance against the juggernaut that was the Bears. Now, it looks like the wheels are completely off, excuses abound for baby jay and the bears are commonly viewed as weak in every area. What the hell happened? Did cutler take these people down by himself?

To be fair, no he didn't. However, he did have a hand in it. The media convinced themselves and the rest of the world that jay is a franchise qb. When you repeat things over 20 times a day, eventually people will believe it.

But franchise qb's make teams better, not worse. cutler has never made a team significantly better, not here and not in chicago. The Broncos are significantly better this year, and the Bears seemed much better last year with Orton. The coach and the rest of the team will get the blame, but cutler is just as much to blame as everyone else. Redzone int.'s and carelessness don't make the team better.

Popps · 11-08-2009, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by oubronco

Popps for one who is always b****ing about others talking about cutler you sure do have something for him are you sure your not gay for jay?

Huh?

I think it's great. Great comedy.

The only "b****ing" you heard from me was how the Jay-Gays talked about him non-stop, and then suddenly... it's not cool to talk about him anymore?

Sorry this isn't working out for you, boss.

Popps · 11-08-2009, 12:50 PM

And there's the expected INT with the game on the line.

Put the QOTF in!!!

errand · 11-08-2009, 12:56 PM

Funny comment on www.NFL.com...

"If you want a chance to win games, give it to Cutler. When you actually want to win games, give it to Orton"

oubronco · 11-08-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Huh?

I think it's great. Great comedy.

The only "b****ing" you heard from me was how the Jay-Gays talked about him non-stop, and then suddenly... it's not cool to talk about him anymore?

Sorry this isn't working out for you, boss.

sorry for what i'm on record as saying "he's gone so move on" unlike some can't, by the way how old are you?

Sassy · 11-08-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by errand

Funny comment on www.NFL.com...

"If you want a chance to win games, give it to Cutler. When you actually want to win games, give it to Orton"

who said that?

bpc · 11-08-2009, 01:19 PM

ha ha. Jay's gonna be fine. Not many people could win with the terrible OL he has. Similar to two years ago with Denver when Pears and Lepsis were getting Jay killed.

Kaylore · 11-08-2009, 01:25 PM

Jay is as good as he's going to be. He'll never be better than he is. That interception he threw was not a result of him being under duress. He just made a bad throw. We got great value for the type of QB he is/will be.

Bronx33 · 11-08-2009, 01:27 PM

I really think jays problen is a piss poor defense and no run game and no WR so the question is with all those holes to fill can the bears even come close to addressing all those problems and be competitive next season? the bears IMO are years off and thats if they even do it right.

bombay · 11-08-2009, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Jay is as good as he's going to be. He'll never be better than he is. That interception he threw was not a result of him being under duress. He just made a bad throw. We got great value for the type of QB he is/will be.

Yep. He's 4 years in. His athleticism is at it's peak, and mentally he hasn't improved with the experience he's gotten. Jay George-like.

broncocalijohn · 11-08-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

I really think jays problen is a piss poor defense and no run game and no WR so the question is with all those holes to fill can the bears even come close to addressing all those problems and be competitive next season? the bears IMO are years off and thats if they even do it right.

As long as Jay's not happy with it, Im happy with it. He wanted out, he got his trade, seemed happy with the Bears getting him and he is struggling to be a .500 QB. What more is there not to love? Regardless of what other weaknesses the Bears have, the fact remains he thinks he can lead any team to the promise land and the expectations were so high that he could do just that from the media and the fans. Sure it isnt all on Jay but that wont matter in Chicago. He was their savior and instead he is more like Pontious Pilate during any 4th quarter drive.

Popps · 11-08-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

ha ha. Jay's gonna be fine. Not many people could win with the terrible OL he has. Similar to two years ago with Denver when Pears and Lepsis were getting Jay killed.

Yea, let's be honest, though... he had one of the best lines in football last year, and great receiving weapons and still was 2nd in the league at handing the ball to the other team.

I guess that's why he's a career loser.

Maybe some day he'll be on a team that's talented enough to hide all of his flaws.

Popps · 11-08-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaylore

Jay is as good as he's going to be. He'll never be better than he is. That interception he threw was not a result of him being under duress. He just made a bad throw. We got great value for the type of QB he is/will be.

It's interesting, because I'm not hearing "franchise" anymore. (Which many of us explained to people during the offseason.)

Now I'm hearing... "He needs a great line, great receivers and a great defense."

In other words, he's like any other QB in the league. He's basically Kyle Orton with a stronger arm and a weaker brain.

Franchise, my ass. Manning is a franchise QB. Elway was a franchise QB. Steve Young... etc. Cutler is a big-armed guy with mechanical flaws and questionable intangibles.

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10-26-2009, 11:59 AM	#201
LittleFloyd Seasoned Veteran Kick a$$ runner. Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 316 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	I sure hope they start Hennie and his balloon at QB.

10-26-2009, 12:36 PM	#202
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10-29-2009, 11:13 AM	#205
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11-08-2009, 11:41 AM	#207
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	Tough call at this point. The season is pretty much over. Stick with Cutler, or look towards the future? The Hanie watch is on!!!

11-08-2009, 11:45 AM	#208
rbackfactory80 Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,627	This thread has more merit than most believe.

11-08-2009, 11:53 AM	#210
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,409	What the hell happened in Chicago? SI saw them as a Super Bowl team in the preseason, and virtually all of the pronosticators picked either them or Minnesota to pick the division. They were viewed as a very good team by everyone. They came to Denver in game three of the preseason and we were all sure that if the Broncos just came out of that game healthy it would be awesome. Because we had no chance against the juggernaut that was the Bears. Now, it looks like the wheels are completely off, excuses abound for baby jay and the bears are commonly viewed as weak in every area. What the hell happened? Did cutler take these people down by himself?

11-08-2009, 11:58 AM	#211
KS Bronco Seasoned Veteran New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 256 Adopt-a-Bronco: Steven Johnson	my schaudenfreude ass LOVES IT!

11-08-2009, 12:01 PM	#212
oubronco John Foneco !! Mile High Magic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sooner Country Posts: 20,678	Popps for one who is always b****ing about others talking about cutler you sure do have something for him are you sure your not gay for jay?

11-08-2009, 12:50 PM	#215
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,792	And there's the expected INT with the game on the line. Put the QOTF in!!!

11-08-2009, 12:56 PM	#216
errand Ring of Famer Forgot more than you'll ever know Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Western NC mountains Posts: 15,291	Funny comment on www.NFL.com... "If you want a chance to win games, give it to Cutler. When you actually want to win games, give it to Orton"

11-08-2009, 01:19 PM	#219
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,580 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	ha ha. Jay's gonna be fine. Not many people could win with the terrible OL he has. Similar to two years ago with Denver when Pears and Lepsis were getting Jay killed.

11-08-2009, 01:25 PM	#220
Kaylore 6-37, Raider fans. Yummy birds and snow! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ceti Alpha V Posts: 41,305 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Duke	Jay is as good as he's going to be. He'll never be better than he is. That interception he threw was not a result of him being under duress. He just made a bad throw. We got great value for the type of QB he is/will be.

11-08-2009, 01:27 PM	#221
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	I really think jays problen is a piss poor defense and no run game and no WR so the question is with all those holes to fill can the bears even come close to addressing all those problems and be competitive next season? the bears IMO are years off and thats if they even do it right.