WTF are you complaining about ??? - The Orange Mane

ZONA · 09-04-2009, 10:54 AM

Seriously, wtf are you McD haters complaining about? Shanahan won a single playoff game in the last 10 years and you guys act like he was gods gift to football and that Josh can do nothing right. I loved Shanahan as much as the next guy but once I stepped back and looked at the whole picture, good god, Bowlen was right to fire him. 1 playoff win in a 10 year span is so ridiculously bad it's not even funny. Most other coaches would have been long gone before Mike was let go. Yup, he won a few superbowls very early and I think that's what earned him that precious extra time but I don't see how anybody could say he should have stayed with that kind of drought.

So when Josh comes in here to try to change things up a bit, guys here are acting like we have been a winning team or something and what he's doing is hurting our chances for the future. Oh, you mean like winning a single playoff game in 10 years kinda future? Please, get some F'n perspective of the last 10 years and give it a rest. You're not willing to give Josh a few years before you evaluate him but you were willing to give Mike a 10 year free ride. It's NFL insanity is what it is.

cousinal11 · 09-04-2009, 10:55 AM

tsiguy96 · 09-04-2009, 10:55 AM

kamakazi_kal · 09-04-2009, 10:55 AM

use one of the thousand existing threads.

ZONA · 09-04-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tsiguy96

That's a funny fricken picture man. Hahahhahaha, gotta love it.

Taco John · 09-04-2009, 10:58 AM

I can only speak for myself, but I believe that Shanahan had us on track to be a dominant force in the NFL. I know that people don't agree with me, and that's ok with me. Their disagreement does nothing to distract me from where I believed Shanahan was headed.

Taco John · 09-04-2009, 11:00 AM

Just out of curiosity, why didn't you just bump one of the hundreds of threads we've had on this topic? What's the point of re-raising this old subject again and again. Do you think you had anything worth adding to the discussion that merited another thread? If so, now would be a good time to add it.

no-pseudo-fan · 09-04-2009, 11:00 AM

My biggest issue with McD is the whole bringing everything NE to Denver. He brings in NE castoffs to Denver. I never liked NE or the way they did things. I understand that NE won lots of games, but the NE way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Belicheat is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

jhns · 09-04-2009, 11:02 AM

The first thing you need to realize is not everyone is sayong we didn't need changes just because they don't like mcdaniels.

I do not know why but this country has gotten on this kick lately that any change is good. That is dumb. Yes, stuff can need to be changed. That stuff still needs the correct changes. You can't just make any change and say its for the better just because it isn't what was here before.

gyldenlove · 09-04-2009, 11:02 AM

Do you know what the funny thing is?

1 playoff win is 1 more than Mcdaniels has.

kamakazi_kal · 09-04-2009, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kamakazi_kal

use one of the thousand existing threads.

umm.

DenverBroncosJM · 09-04-2009, 11:05 AM

I would like to remind everyone part of the reason Shanny isnt here is because he did not want to fire slowik...

Or did I hear that on the light rail?

Taco John · 09-04-2009, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

I would like to remind everyone part of the reason Shanny isnt here is because he did not want to fire slowik...

This has been proven false about a million times.

BlaK-Argentina · 09-04-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

Do you know what the funny thing is?

1 playoff win is 1 more than Mcdaniels has.

And how many games has McDaniels coached?

Dr. Broncenstein · 09-04-2009, 11:11 AM

gtown · 09-04-2009, 11:14 AM

Shanahan was never gonna get defense right. Even during the SB years, he was inheriting an already passable defense. Also, five DCs in five years is an absolute red flag that he had no idea WTF was going on on that side of the ball.

I applaud the McD hire. The Broncos have been an undisciplined group the last few years and they absolutely have no fire. What else to explain our annual late season swoon and our horrible home record. I think McD will at least get these guys to play hard as a team, something I doubted Shanny could do the last few years.

orangeatheist · 09-04-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by no-pseudo-fan

My biggest issue with McD is the whole bringing everything NE to Denver. He brings in NE castoffs to Denver. I never liked NE or the way they did things. I understand that NE won lots of games, but the NE way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Belicheat is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

Turn the calendar back a few years and you might have read:

My biggest issue with Shanny is the whole bringing everything SF to Denver. He brings in SF castoffs to Denver. I never liked SF or the way they did things. I understand that SF won lots of games, but the SF way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Walsh is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

Could'a happened.

gyldenlove · 09-04-2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaK-Argentina

And how many games has McDaniels coached?

You would rather have a guy with no experience?

Because I will coach for a lot less than Mcdaniels makes and I have won just as many games as he has.

orangemonkey · 09-04-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by no-pseudo-fan

My biggest issue with McD is the whole bringing everything NE to Denver. He brings in NE castoffs to Denver. I never liked NE or the way they did things. I understand that NE won lots of games, but the NE way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Belicheat is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

Agree with this wholeheartedly. And New England was caught cheating. No one knows the full extent of how much they cheated but it's safe to say that McD was in the middle of it. Even throughout NE's good seasons, Broncos were mostly dominate. I don't trust McD whatsoever. He has a lot of proving to do and it begins next week.

gyldenlove · 09-04-2009, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by orangeatheist

Turn the calendar back a few years and you might have read:

My biggest issue with Shanny is the whole bringing everything SF to Denver. He brings in SF castoffs to Denver. I never liked SF or the way they did things. I understand that SF won lots of games, but the SF way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Walsh is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

Could'a happened.

So that fact that Shanahan already had experience in Denver is just ignored in your very lame attempt at an argument?

TonyR · 09-04-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gyldenlove

You would rather have a guy with no experience?

Do we really need to revisit the exercise of listing the multiple successful coaches, including several current head coaches, who had no head coaching experience when they took the job? It's been done here on the Mane at least a dozen times in the last few months. Please don't require it to be done again in response to the nonsense you just posted above. Please. For the love of god.

worm · 09-04-2009, 12:04 PM

Stick to medical threads Zona.

tsiguy96 · 09-04-2009, 12:05 PM

TailgateNut · 09-04-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I can only speak for myself, but I believe that Shanahan had us on track to be a dominant force in the NFL. I know that people don't agree with me, and that's ok with me. Their disagreement does nothing to distract me from where I believed Shanahan was headed.

We just had to give him another DECADE, and we would have been the first team to win 5 Lombardies in a row.

alkemical · 09-04-2009, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I can only speak for myself, but I believe that Shanahan had us on track to be a dominant force in the NFL. I know that people don't agree with me, and that's ok with me. Their disagreement does nothing to distract me from where I believed Shanahan was headed.

I know SSJ more or less agrees with that as well.

09-04-2009, 10:54 AM	#1
ZONA Ring of Famer Liquid greatness in every packet Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,377 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	WTF are you complaining about ??? Seriously, wtf are you McD haters complaining about? Shanahan won a single playoff game in the last 10 years and you guys act like he was gods gift to football and that Josh can do nothing right. I loved Shanahan as much as the next guy but once I stepped back and looked at the whole picture, good god, Bowlen was right to fire him. 1 playoff win in a 10 year span is so ridiculously bad it's not even funny. Most other coaches would have been long gone before Mike was let go. Yup, he won a few superbowls very early and I think that's what earned him that precious extra time but I don't see how anybody could say he should have stayed with that kind of drought. So when Josh comes in here to try to change things up a bit, guys here are acting like we have been a winning team or something and what he's doing is hurting our chances for the future. Oh, you mean like winning a single playoff game in 10 years kinda future? Please, get some F'n perspective of the last 10 years and give it a rest. You're not willing to give Josh a few years before you evaluate him but you were willing to give Mike a 10 year free ride. It's NFL insanity is what it is.

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09-04-2009, 10:55 AM	#2
cousinal11 East Coast Bronco Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,203 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joel Dresseen

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kamakazi_kal I have a Teb0ner. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,163 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mayhem Miller	use one of the thousand existing threads.

09-04-2009, 10:58 AM	#6
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	I can only speak for myself, but I believe that Shanahan had us on track to be a dominant force in the NFL. I know that people don't agree with me, and that's ok with me. Their disagreement does nothing to distract me from where I believed Shanahan was headed.

09-04-2009, 11:00 AM	#7
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Just out of curiosity, why didn't you just bump one of the hundreds of threads we've had on this topic? What's the point of re-raising this old subject again and again. Do you think you had anything worth adding to the discussion that merited another thread? If so, now would be a good time to add it.

09-04-2009, 11:00 AM	#8
no-pseudo-fan True Orange & Blue Follow me... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: EPT Posts: 2,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Hidalgo	My biggest issue with McD is the whole bringing everything NE to Denver. He brings in NE castoffs to Denver. I never liked NE or the way they did things. I understand that NE won lots of games, but the NE way isn't the only way. Trying to be Mini Belicheat is not winning anyone over. Kind of like Increda-Boy, I mean Buddy, I mean Syndrome. The lame knockoff version of a successful product is not what I want my beloved Broncos to become.

09-04-2009, 11:02 AM	#9
jhns I'm all up in your face but you still can't C me! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Omaha Posts: 12,405 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	The first thing you need to realize is not everyone is sayong we didn't need changes just because they don't like mcdaniels. I do not know why but this country has gotten on this kick lately that any change is good. That is dumb. Yes, stuff can need to be changed. That stuff still needs the correct changes. You can't just make any change and say its for the better just because it isn't what was here before.

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gyldenlove Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: London, ON Posts: 10,026 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	Do you know what the funny thing is? 1 playoff win is 1 more than Mcdaniels has.

09-04-2009, 11:05 AM	#12
DenverBroncosJM Post here Vine Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: California Posts: 975	I would like to remind everyone part of the reason Shanny isnt here is because he did not want to fire slowik... Or did I hear that on the light rail?

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gtown Perennial Pro-bowler Hoya Saxa!! Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: DC Posts: 925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Juggernaut #46	Shanahan was never gonna get defense right. Even during the SB years, he was inheriting an already passable defense. Also, five DCs in five years is an absolute red flag that he had no idea WTF was going on on that side of the ball. I applaud the McD hire. The Broncos have been an undisciplined group the last few years and they absolutely have no fire. What else to explain our annual late season swoon and our horrible home record. I think McD will at least get these guys to play hard as a team, something I doubted Shanny could do the last few years.

09-04-2009, 12:04 PM	#22
worm Great moments are born... ...from great opportunity Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,947 Adopt-a-Bronco: #20	Stick to medical threads Zona.

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