OT: Speeding Ticket - The Orange Mane

Ramathorn · 08-29-2009, 02:57 PM

Need some help guys. I got a speeding ticket the other day. Does anyone know the ins and outs and if its worth fighting and better yet can I win? Here is a breakdown of what happened.

Thursday 1:30 AM. Coming home from cleveland in my 2008 Red Mitsubishi Lancer on interstate 77S. Im driving, wife in passenger seat, my sister,her husband and my 2 year old in the back. (My 2 year old is in a car seat and is asleep). We are coming back from creed concert. A Ohio State Highway Patrol Officer is coming North on 77. There is absolutley no traffic in either direction. I dont know its him till he lights it up and pulls into the median behind me. I am going 75+ in a 65. I slow down, without hitting brake, to 65. he pulls me over. I roll down all the windows ( they are actually to dark for ohio which is 50% and they are 30%) and I turn on the dome lights and put my hands on the wheel. He comes up and asks for license. I give him the licnese. he said " where you coming from" I said creed concert. He said" do you know you were speeding?" I said "yes sir, I was going a little over the limit, Im sorry". He said he got me at 80 in 65 on radar coming the opposite way. I dont mind the ticket price 110.00, I just dont want points. what can I do? I was polite the entire time and never talked back to him.

JCMElway · 08-29-2009, 03:01 PM

Do they have a defensive driving program in Ohio? If so, do that and it'll kill the points.

It takes a lot of time and effort to fight a ticket. It's usually better just to suck it up and eat it unless you work from home and have a bunch of spare time during the weekdays.

Dudeskey · 08-29-2009, 03:15 PM

Go to court. Usually you can plea guilty to a lesser charge and that will reduce points. And in some cases with that plea you can go to a defensive driving class and have even more points reduced. Thing is it does cost you more with fines, court costs & the driving school fee. IMO in the long run its worth it when you figure in insurance premiums, retaining your licence, etc...™

chaz · 08-29-2009, 03:18 PM

Just curious, but how would you plan on defending yourself if you were actually speeding? (and even got off easy without any tint citation...) You not knowing it was a state trooper coming the other way isn't a great argument

In all seriousness, I hope you can reduce the points/insurance hit

meangene · 08-29-2009, 03:21 PM

What is your prior record? If it is relatively clean and you attend driver improvement school BEFORE court, they may put you on probation. I have used this to get a couple reckless driving charges dismissed.

maher_tyler · 08-29-2009, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramathorn

Need some help guys. I got a speeding ticket the other day. Does anyone know the ins and outs and if its worth fighting and better yet can I win? Here is a breakdown of what happened.

Thursday 1:30 AM. Coming home from cleveland in my 2008 Red Mitsubishi Lancer on interstate 77S. Im driving, wife in passenger seat, my sister,her husband and my 2 year old in the back. (My 2 year old is in a car seat and is asleep). We are coming back from creed concert. A Ohio State Highway Patrol Officer is coming North on 77. There is absolutley no traffic in either direction. I dont know its him till he lights it up and pulls into the median behind me. I am going 75+ in a 65. I slow down, without hitting brake, to 65. he pulls me over. I roll down all the windows ( they are actually to dark for ohio which is 50% and they are 30%) and I turn on the dome lights and put my hands on the wheel. He comes up and asks for license. I give him the licnese. he said " where you coming from" I said creed concert. He said" do you know you were speeding?" I said "yes sir, I was going a little over the limit, Im sorry". He said he got me at 80 in 65 on radar coming the opposite way. I dont mind the ticket price 110.00, I just dont want points. what can I do? I was polite the entire time and never talked back to him.

Your user name is kinda ironic to the situation...

Do you know how fast you were going back there?

Umm... 65?

63!

But... isn't the speed limit 65?

Yea, it is.

JCMElway · 08-29-2009, 03:30 PM

Do they have defensive driving/driver improvement in OH?

gunns · 08-29-2009, 03:36 PM

Here they usually won't pull you over for 10 over unless it's a slow time. The other problem is your car is red. They are a target, plus a sporty looking car. The defensive driving course is your best bet as others have said. It does knock the points down.

Doggcow · 08-29-2009, 03:37 PM

You're probably boned. In washington they have been assraping everyone with tickets, they don't even hear your case, maybe 30 seconds for them to say "Next" and you pay the full price.

State governments are broke as **** right now and they're going to slam the **** out of the middle-class until they catch back up.

Doggcow · 08-29-2009, 03:39 PM

I just reread and saw the end where you admitted to speeding to the officer. You're boned.

NEVER say anything when you get pulled over people! If they say "Did you know you were speeding?" Say "No." That's all you have to say and you're not guaranteed to take it in the ass.

Florida_Bronco · 08-29-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Doggcow

I just reread and saw the end where you admitted to speeding to the officer. You're boned.

NEVER say anything when you get pulled over people! If they say "Did you know you were speeding?" Say "No." That's all you have to say and you're not guaranteed to take it in the ass.

Exactly.

If they have one of those driving classes like JCM mentioned, your best bet is to probably do that. Here in Florida it lowers the cost of the ticket, no points, and under state law your insurance cannot be raised.

You can take your chances in court, but personally I'd just take the class and be done with it.

TheElusiveKyleOrton · 08-29-2009, 04:04 PM

You were at a Creed concert. I wouldn't use that in your defense.

maher_tyler · 08-29-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

You were at a Creed concert. I wouldn't use that in your defense.

cutthemdown · 08-29-2009, 04:19 PM

Where was the 2 yr old during the concert?

You were speeding and admitted that so you are screwed.

Hercules Rockefeller · 08-29-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Eltheway32

Here they usually won't pull you over for 10 over unless it's a slow time. The other problem is your car is red. They are a target, plus a sporty looking car. The defensive driving course is your best bet as others have said. It does knock the points down.

Slow time and color had nothing to do with it, SP was out looking for drunk drivers.

Hogan11 · 08-29-2009, 04:37 PM

Contact a lawyer and see if you can get it knocked down to parking on pavement or something with minimal points because there's no way you're gonna beat it totally.

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PaintballCLE · 08-29-2009, 05:00 PM

Rob.... trust me on this one.............go to court..........80%+ the cop never shows and you get off free and clear.

But let me ask you the glaring question......... WTF did you take a 2 year old to see creed?

Florida_Bronco · 08-29-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by McBleed Orange and Blue

Rob.... trust me on this one.............go to court..........80%+ the cop never shows and you get off free and clear.

Sorry to say but that's a myth.

PaintballCLE · 08-29-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Sorry to say but that's a myth.

Wanna bet? Might be different with a trooper. But here the CPD rarely show up

Ramathorn · 08-29-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JCMElway

Do they have a defensive driving program in Ohio? If so, do that and it'll kill the points.

It takes a lot of time and effort to fight a ticket. It's usually better just to suck it up and eat it unless you work from home and have a bunch of spare time during the weekdays.

Actually, I am at home during the day. Going to college at night!

Ramathorn · 08-29-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz

Just curious, but how would you plan on defending yourself if you were actually speeding? (and even got off easy without any tint citation...) You not knowing it was a state trooper coming the other way isn't a great argument

In all seriousness, I hope you can reduce the points/insurance hit

Im just saying about the trooper thing, is I would have slowed down. No way am I using that as an argument. Im just wondering about radar and how reliable they are in a moving patrol car coming opposite directin? Is it true that If i show up and he doesnt, then the ticket get kicked out of court? I can afford the ticket, just dont really want it on my driving record. Already have a accident from when my wife hit a deer 3 months ago

Ramathorn · 08-29-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by meangene

What is your prior record? If it is relatively clean and you attend driver improvement school BEFORE court, they may put you on probation. I have used this to get a couple reckless driving charges dismissed.

The cop never told me it was reckless driving. Is that for only over 15? cause I was 15 right on the money. They set it up for 2 weeks from now for court or pay.

chadta · 08-29-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatOneDenverMooseGuy

You were at a Creed concert.

isnt that like doing the sentence before the crime ?

bombay · 08-29-2009, 05:33 PM

In Colorado if your record is relatively clean, it's almost automatic that they'll offer a 1 point defective vehicle or something along those lines without the expense of a lawyer for a minor violation like that.

08-29-2009, 02:57 PM	#1
Ramathorn Perennial Pro-bowler M E O W Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Little Hocking, OH Posts: 934 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis Dumervil	OT: Speeding Ticket Need some help guys. I got a speeding ticket the other day. Does anyone know the ins and outs and if its worth fighting and better yet can I win? Here is a breakdown of what happened. Thursday 1:30 AM. Coming home from cleveland in my 2008 Red Mitsubishi Lancer on interstate 77S. Im driving, wife in passenger seat, my sister,her husband and my 2 year old in the back. (My 2 year old is in a car seat and is asleep). We are coming back from creed concert. A Ohio State Highway Patrol Officer is coming North on 77. There is absolutley no traffic in either direction. I dont know its him till he lights it up and pulls into the median behind me. I am going 75+ in a 65. I slow down, without hitting brake, to 65. he pulls me over. I roll down all the windows ( they are actually to dark for ohio which is 50% and they are 30%) and I turn on the dome lights and put my hands on the wheel. He comes up and asks for license. I give him the licnese. he said " where you coming from" I said creed concert. He said" do you know you were speeding?" I said "yes sir, I was going a little over the limit, Im sorry". He said he got me at 80 in 65 on radar coming the opposite way. I dont mind the ticket price 110.00, I just dont want points. what can I do? I was polite the entire time and never talked back to him.

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08-29-2009, 03:01 PM	#2
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,897 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Do they have a defensive driving program in Ohio? If so, do that and it'll kill the points. It takes a lot of time and effort to fight a ticket. It's usually better just to suck it up and eat it unless you work from home and have a bunch of spare time during the weekdays.

08-29-2009, 03:15 PM	#3
Dudeskey Ring of Famer This space for rent Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 4,314	Go to court. Usually you can plea guilty to a lesser charge and that will reduce points. And in some cases with that plea you can go to a defensive driving class and have even more points reduced. Thing is it does cost you more with fines, court costs & the driving school fee. IMO in the long run its worth it when you figure in insurance premiums, retaining your licence, etc...™

08-29-2009, 03:18 PM	#4
chaz highly touted recruit Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,456 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Bruton	Just curious, but how would you plan on defending yourself if you were actually speeding? (and even got off easy without any tint citation...) You not knowing it was a state trooper coming the other way isn't a great argument In all seriousness, I hope you can reduce the points/insurance hit

08-29-2009, 03:21 PM	#5
meangene Ring of Famer Offseason Mode Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 2,075	What is your prior record? If it is relatively clean and you attend driver improvement school BEFORE court, they may put you on probation. I have used this to get a couple reckless driving charges dismissed.

08-29-2009, 03:30 PM	#7
JCMElway Moderate-erator Dominate! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 6,897 Adopt-a-Bronco: Oleg	Do they have defensive driving/driver improvement in OH?

08-29-2009, 03:36 PM	#8
gunns I WANT DEFENSE! Defense, defense, defense Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Always Hoping Posts: 11,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Defense	Here they usually won't pull you over for 10 over unless it's a slow time. The other problem is your car is red. They are a target, plus a sporty looking car. The defensive driving course is your best bet as others have said. It does knock the points down.

08-29-2009, 03:37 PM	#9
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,341 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	You're probably boned. In washington they have been assraping everyone with tickets, they don't even hear your case, maybe 30 seconds for them to say "Next" and you pay the full price. State governments are broke as ** right now and they're going to slam the ** out of the middle-class until they catch back up.

08-29-2009, 03:39 PM	#10
Doggcow Rebel Laughs At Unbelievers Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 8,341 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	I just reread and saw the end where you admitted to speeding to the officer. You're boned. NEVER say anything when you get pulled over people! If they say "Did you know you were speeding?" Say "No." That's all you have to say and you're not guaranteed to take it in the ass.

08-29-2009, 04:19 PM	#14
cutthemdown A verbis ad verbera Zimm to HOF Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Long Beach Posts: 32,878	Where was the 2 yr old during the concert? You were speeding and admitted that so you are screwed.

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PaintballCLE INFLITRATE ENEMY LINES Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Cleveland, Oh Posts: 3,236	Rob.... trust me on this one.............go to court..........80%+ the cop never shows and you get off free and clear. But let me ask you the glaring question......... WTF did you take a 2 year old to see creed?

08-29-2009, 05:33 PM	#25
bombay Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: denver Posts: 4,411	In Colorado if your record is relatively clean, it's almost automatic that they'll offer a 1 point defective vehicle or something along those lines without the expense of a lawyer for a minor violation like that.