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Old 08-04-2009, 10:33 AM   #1101
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You should start a thread that keeps track of his drops throughout camp and the season. Guy is garbage and I love it! Wasnt Watts(the claw) a good route runner too?
Who said DHB ran good routes? He's a one trick pony... Speed. Think of a better built Ashley Lelie.
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:47 AM   #1102
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Who said DHB ran good routes? He's a one trick pony... Speed. Think of a better built Ashley Lelie.
Of course Lelie could catch the ball on his go routes.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:26 AM   #1103
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If Jake didn't underthrow them. For some reason he always hit Rod in stride but couldn't hit Ashley.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:39 PM   #1104
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Dorsey is too fat to practice

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 4, 2009 5:54 PM ET

Glenn Dorsey was a favorite of the draft graders.

When the Chiefs choose him fifth overall in 2008, the reviews were unanimous; the Chiefs got a great bargain in the LSU defensive tackle.

Little more than a year later, Dorsey seems far from a sure thing.

As Evan Silva pointed out in today's one-liners, Dorsey has essentially been deemed too fat to practice. (As opposed to too fat to fish.)

Five days after failing a conditioning test, Dorsey continues to try to get slim while his teammates practice football.

Kent Babb of the Kansas City Star wondered if the Chiefs are trying to prove a point:

"He's spending time on sprints and the stationary bike, but I can't help but think that some of the exercises he's doing aren't more for continued humiliation of the one player who can't seem to get in shape," Babb wrote.

It's not like Dorsey showed his talent as a rookie, but let things slide this offseason.

He did very little last season. Jason Whitlock broke out the B word by midseason, although there were legitimate questions later regarding how Dorsey was utilized.

Those excuses won't hold up if Dorsey fails to impress another coaching staff. Dorsey barely practiced this offseason because of a shin injury before showing up heavy to camp.

Oddly, Dorsey's absence isn't getting much attention. According to the transcripts posted on the team's website, Dorsey's name hasn't been mentioned in Todd Haley's last three days of pressers.

Dorsey is one of the young players the Chiefs should build around, but he risks getting left behind.

Complicating matters is that Dorsey must learn a new scheme. Expected to be a penetrating tackle in a 4-3 defense, he will now be asked to occupy blockers in a 3-4.

At this rate, Dorsey could wind up being a very round and expensive peg that doesn't fit into any of Kansas City's holes.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:51 PM   #1105
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glenn dorsey was a favorite of the draft graders.

When the chiefs choose him fifth overall in 2008, the reviews were unanimous; the chiefs got a great bargain in the lsu defensive tackle.

Little more than a year later, dorsey seems far from a sure thing.

As evan silva pointed out in today's one-liners, dorsey has essentially been deemed too fat to practice. (as opposed to too fat to fish.)

five days after failing a conditioning test, dorsey continues to try to get slim while his teammates practice football.

Kent babb of the kansas city star wondered if the chiefs are trying to prove a point:

"he's spending time on sprints and the stationary bike, but i can't help but think that some of the exercises he's doing aren't more for continued humiliation of the one player who can't seem to get in shape," babb wrote.

It's not like dorsey showed his talent as a rookie, but let things slide this offseason.

He did very little last season. Jason whitlock broke out the b word by midseason, although there were legitimate questions later regarding how dorsey was utilized.

Those excuses won't hold up if dorsey fails to impress another coaching staff. Dorsey barely practiced this offseason because of a shin injury before showing up heavy to camp.

Oddly, dorsey's absence isn't getting much attention. According to the transcripts posted on the team's website, dorsey's name hasn't been mentioned in todd haley's last three days of pressers.

Dorsey is one of the young players the chiefs should build around, but he risks getting left behind.

Complicating matters is that dorsey must learn a new scheme. Expected to be a penetrating tackle in a 4-3 defense, he will now be asked to occupy blockers in a 3-4.

At this rate, dorsey could wind up being a very round and expensive peg that doesn't fit into any of kansas city's holes.
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Old 08-04-2009, 03:55 PM   #1106
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I am really surprised at Dorsey struggling. Loved him at LSU. Right now I hope he continues to have problems.

Also surprised Brian Waters didn't pass the test. I would be shocked to see him stick in KC after this year. He has been rubbed the wrong way since Day 1 with the new admin. This shouldn't help his ego.
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Old 08-05-2009, 03:15 PM   #1107
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Down goes Douglas in Atlanta

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 5, 2009 5:36 PM ET

Roddy White may have just gained a little leverage.

Falcons receiver Harry Douglas, who was taking first-team snaps in White's absence, went down with a leg injury at practice Wednesday.

It's always difficult to tell if a camp injury is serious right away, but the signs here aren't great.

Douglas had to be helped by two people to get off the field and onto a cart.

An earlier version of the story in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution said that Matt Ryan shouted a "loud expletive" after seeing Douglas hit the deck.

"You can't speculate," coach Mike Smith said. "Anytime you lose any player it's not the best situation. Harry is an integral part of our team."

Douglas is coming off a quietly impressive rookie year and was expected to challenge Michael Jenkins for a starting job.

If Douglas is out for a significant amount of time, the Falcons are down to Jenkins, Brian Finneran, and a slew of receivers without NFL production. (They signed Dickie Lyons Tuesday . . . and released him Wednesday.)

The receiver situation would change, of course, if they can get a deal finished with holdout Roddy White.

Little has been reported on that front lately, but soon-to-be ESPN's Adam Schefter enjoyed his one of his last days of Twitter freedom by writing the following.

"Reports are that Falcons WR Roddy White is seeking a more lucrative contract than Larry Fitzgerald. I'm told, Categorically false."

No matter what White is asking for, his importance to the team could have elevated even more Wednesday.
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Been pretty slow the last few days in regards to first round picks signing.

Still 9 unsigned first round picks.
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Unsigned First Round Picks:

3. Tyson Jackson DE Kansas City
4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle
6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati
8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville
9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay
10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco
11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo
12. Knowshon Moreno RB Denver
14. Malcolm Jenkins CB New Orleans
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Source: Parker tells Niners that Crabtree will re-enter draft

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...e-enter-draft/

Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 11:52 AM ET

The situation in San Francisco between the 49ers and receiver Michael Crabtree is quickly going from bad to worse.

Per a league source, agent Eugene Parker is telling the 49ers that Crabtree will sit out the season re-enter the draft in 2010, unless the team gives Crabtree what he wants.

Of course, what Crabtree specifically wants isn't known, since Parker (as multiple sources tell us) still hasn't made a proposal.

There's also a growing chorus of league insiders who are speaking out against the widely-believed effort by Parker to blow up the slotting process with Crabtree. Teams obviously would contend that the unwritten rules of draft-pick negotiation ritual should be honored; however, some of the agents who arguably would benefit from the introduction of chaos privately have described efforts to blow the curve as "inappropriate" and "unacceptable" and "wrong."

And if Crabtree opts to re-enter the draft next year, the current thinking is that he wouldn't be the first receiver drafted. For now, the guy who is regarded as likely to be the first wideout (and possibly the first overall pick) is Illinois junior Arrelious Benn.

Then again, if Crabtree is picked any higher than No. 10 after having a chance to engage in pre-draft workouts, he'd likely end up with more money than the slotting process currently would pay.

After, of course, waiting a year to get it.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:34 AM   #1111
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Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 11:52 AM ET

The situation in San Francisco between the 49ers and receiver Michael Crabtree is quickly going from bad to worse.

Per a league source, agent Eugene Parker is telling the 49ers that Crabtree will sit out the season re-enter the draft in 2010, unless the team gives Crabtree what he wants.

Of course, what Crabtree specifically wants isn't known, since Parker (as multiple sources tell us) still hasn't made a proposal.

There's also a growing chorus of league insiders who are speaking out against the widely-believed effort by Parker to blow up the slotting process with Crabtree. Teams obviously would contend that the unwritten rules of draft-pick negotiation ritual should be honored; however, some of the agents who arguably would benefit from the introduction of chaos privately have described efforts to blow the curve as "inappropriate" and "unacceptable" and "wrong."

And if Crabtree opts to re-enter the draft next year, the current thinking is that he wouldn't be the first receiver drafted. For now, the guy who is regarded as likely to be the first wideout (and possibly the first overall pick) is Illinois junior Arrelious Benn.

Then again, if Crabtree is picked any higher than No. 10 after having a chance to engage in pre-draft workouts, he'd likely end up with more money than the slotting process currently would pay.

After, of course, waiting a year to get it.
Why would anyone pick this guy in the top 10 next year after seeing all the trouble he's causing this year? He'll be a year removed from playing football as well. The only way I could see that working out is if he goes out and runs a 4.3 40 and has a 40" vertical at the combine, otherwise this will only hurt him.
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Unsigned First Round Picks:

3. Tyson Jackson DE Kansas City
4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle
6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati
8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville
9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay
10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco
11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo
12. Knowshon Moreno RB Denver
14. Malcolm Jenkins CB New Orleans
Wasn't Curry the guy that said if he was picked #1 overall, he would take what Jake Long got last year and sign the deal without hesitation? I guess he changed his mind about the money when #1 overall wasn't his spot.
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Old 08-06-2009, 09:37 AM   #1113
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Posted by Mike Florio on August 6, 2009 11:52 AM ET

The situation in San Francisco between the 49ers and receiver Michael Crabtree is quickly going from bad to worse.

Per a league source, agent Eugene Parker is telling the 49ers that Crabtree will sit out the season re-enter the draft in 2010, unless the team gives Crabtree what he wants.

Of course, what Crabtree specifically wants isn't known, since Parker (as multiple sources tell us) still hasn't made a proposal.

There's also a growing chorus of league insiders who are speaking out against the widely-believed effort by Parker to blow up the slotting process with Crabtree. Teams obviously would contend that the unwritten rules of draft-pick negotiation ritual should be honored; however, some of the agents who arguably would benefit from the introduction of chaos privately have described efforts to blow the curve as "inappropriate" and "unacceptable" and "wrong."

And if Crabtree opts to re-enter the draft next year, the current thinking is that he wouldn't be the first receiver drafted. For now, the guy who is regarded as likely to be the first wideout (and possibly the first overall pick) is Illinois junior Arrelious Benn.

Then again, if Crabtree is picked any higher than No. 10 after having a chance to engage in pre-draft workouts, he'd likely end up with more money than the slotting process currently would pay.

After, of course, waiting a year to get it.
This is absolutely stupid. This kid is gonna hate himself after doing this if it happens. Man, I really hope that we can just get Moreno on the dam field
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Hadnot hurt at Browns camp

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 6, 2009 3:53 PM ET

One of the first and most surprising moves Eric Mangini has made in Cleveland was to put highly paid left guard Eric Steinbach's starting position up for grabs.

It appeared Steinbach was going to hold on to his job, but Mangini may have no choice now.

Steinbach's potential replacement, Rex Hadnot, reportedly suffered a potentially serious knee injury at practice Thursday, according to the Orange and Brown Report.

They write that he "blew out" the knee, but it's unclear what exactly happened at this stage. Hadnot was surrounded by teammates after writhing in pain, then was carted off the field.

Hadnot also had a good chance to start at right guard, so losing him would still be a major blow.
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The National Football Post is reporting that the Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to terms with third overall pick Tyson Jackson. Terms of the contract were not disclosed by the team.
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4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle
6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati
8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville
9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay
10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco
11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo
12. Knowshon Moreno RB Denver
14. Malcolm Jenkins CB New Orleans
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San Francisco 49ers receiver Brandon Jones is expected to miss two months because of a small fracture in his right shoulder, coach Mike Singletary said Friday.

Jones was injured during Thursday's late practice trying to make a diving catch while all alone in the end zone during 7-on-7 work. He will not need shoulder surgery, Singletary said.
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San Francisco 49ers receiver Brandon Jones is expected to miss two months because of a small fracture in his right shoulder, coach Mike Singletary said Friday.

Jones was injured during Thursday's late practice trying to make a diving catch while all alone in the end zone during 7-on-7 work. He will not need shoulder surgery, Singletary said.
Crap.....hope they sign somebodyelse or a FA.

don't want them to cave to the Crab.
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RIVER FALLS, Wis. - The Kansas City Chiefs have signed defensive end Tyson Jackson, the team's first-round draft pick.

Terms of the deal were not disclosed Friday, though several published reports estimated the deal would be worth in excess of $55 million overall, and more than $30 million guaranteed. Jackson was in River Falls and headed to the practice field to take the team's conditioning test.


Jackson, the third overall pick from LSU, is expected to help an anemic Chiefs pass rush that set the all-time NFL record for fewest sacks with 10 last season. Jackson had 18.5 sacks and 122 tackles in 53 games at LSU. The Chiefs waived linebacker Weston Dacus to make room on the roster.
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4. Aaron Curry LB Seattle
6. Andre Smith OT Cincinnati
8. Eugene Monroe OT Jacksonville
9. B.J. Raji DT Green Bay
10. Michael Crabtree WR San Francisco
11. Aaron Maybin DE Buffalo
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Nice to get Knowshon signed....did not want to see the holdout drag on much longer.

Now we will still be able to see him quite a bit in the preseason.

The remaining group of unsigned first rounders could be staying that way for a while....good to remove him from that list.

I could see Andre Smith and Michael Crabtree sitting out for several more weeks.
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Old 08-08-2009, 05:56 AM   #1122
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It's great, the FO and Knowshon said they'd get a deal done independent of the other picks and they did within 48 hours or so.
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Eagles lose Ingram to ACL tear

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Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 8, 2009 3:40 PM ET

The Eagles' worst fears about rookie tight end Cornelius Ingram's knee injury have been realized: The team announced Saturday that he has torn the ACL in his left knee. Again.

Ingram is the second key Eagle to tear his ACL in camp; middle linebacker Stewart Bradley was the other.

Philly took a calculated gamble by drafting Ingram in the fifth round of April's draft. He was coming off a torn ACL and there was some concern he would need need it operated on again eventually.

The Eagles appeared to be winning the bet all offseason, as Ingram impressed onlookers with outstanding athleticism.

Now they will have to wait until 2010 to see if Ingram can make a contribution to the team and stay healthy enough to play football. Ingram also missed his entire senior season at Florida.

Matt Schobel appears likely to backup starter Brent Celek now, but Schobel has missed all of camp with a calf injury.

The Eagles worked out three free agents at tight end Saturday, and look likely to sign one.
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A couple of weeks ago I had this team penciled in for at worst the NFCCG. But now they've lost DC Jim Johnson, starting MLB Stewart Bradley, and this promising rookie TE. And their potentially awesome, rebuilt offensive line is in shambles (see link below). I may have to back off a bit. A few more injuries and maybe Denver can steal a win on 12/27 in Philly!

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Seattle Seahawks first-round draft choice Aaron Curry ran onto the practice field to applause Saturday after signing a multiyear contract with the team.

Terms were not immediately available.

Curry, the fourth overall choice in the NFL draft, had missed the first eight days of camp.

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