Va. Tech Gunman's Mental Health Records are Found - The Orange Mane

Bronco_Beerslug · 07-23-2009, 12:30 PM

This should be interesting, a Tech clinic director took the records home and didn't tell anyone. These records could show some damaging evidence that the University concealed from the public.

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Va. Tech gunman's mental health records are found

ICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Missing mental health records of Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho have been discovered in the home of the university clinic's former director, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press today.

Cho killed 32 people on April 16, 2007, then committed suicide as police closed in. His mental health treatment has been a major issue in the investigation of the shootings.

A memo from Gov. Tim Kaine's chief legal counsel to victims' family members says Cho's records and those of several other Virginia Tech students were found July 18 in the home of Dr. Robert H. Miller.

The memo said the records were removed from the Cook Counseling Center on the Virginia Tech campus more than a year before the shootings.

"I appreciate your call, but I'm not making comment at this time," Miller said when reached at a number for his private practice.

The recovery of the records, which eluded a vast criminal investigation two years ago, was first announced by Kaine at a news conference today.

Kaine said a Virginia State Police criminal investigation into how the records disappeared from the center where Cho was ordered to undergo counseling is under way. Removing records from the center is illegal, he said.

Kaine said he was dismayed that it took two years before they were found by attorneys in a lawsuit brought by families of the victims.

"That is part of the investigation that I am very interested in and, of course, I'm very concerned about that," Kaine said.

The state planned to release the records publicly as soon as possible, either by consent from Cho's estate or through a subpoena.
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Garcia Bronco · 07-23-2009, 12:32 PM

The records were removed a year before the shooting. So unless the doctor was a precog you are barking up the wrong tree.

Bronco_Beerslug · 07-23-2009, 12:37 PM

Probe Into Va. Tech Shootings Again Questioned After Mental Health Records Of Shooter Surface

BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — The discovery of missing mental health records of the Virginia Tech gunman has victims' families and the governor questioning the thoroughness of the criminal investigation into the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

FILE - In this undated file photo released by the Virginia State Police, Seung-Hui Cho is shown. Missing mental health records for Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho have been found more than two years after the massacre, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said Wednesday, July 22, 2009. (AP Photo/Virginia State Police) (Anonymous, ASSOCIATED PRESS / April 17, 2007)

The potentially explosive evidence eluded authorities for more than two years until Seung-Hui Cho's files turned up at the home of a former university counseling official, angering families still struggling to understand how the killer fell through the cracks at the university. The development, disclosed in a memo obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press, represents another embarrassing lapse in the case.

"Deception comes to my mind in my first response," said Suzanne Grimes, whose son Kevin Sterne was wounded. "It gives me the impression, 'What else are they hiding?'"

The contents of the file have not been made public, and Gov. Tim Kaine said it is unclear why Dr. Robert C. Miller, former director of the campus clinic where Cho was counseled because of his disturbing behavior, took the records home more than a year before Cho killed 32 people and committed suicide on April 16, 2007.

The governor said he was dismayed that it took so long to find the records.
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Northman · 07-23-2009, 01:06 PM

Yea, i posted this yesterday. Very strange.

Garcia Bronco · 07-23-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Northman

Yea, i posted this yesterday. Very strange.

It is strange. Sure he took the records home and left, but he knew he had work material at home and should have returned it. The University isn't at fault.

Northman · 07-23-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

It is strange. Sure he took the records home and left, but he knew he had work material at home and should have returned it. The University isn't at fault.

Not at all. Ive never seen it as them being at fault. Seung-Hui Cho is responsible for his own actions. No one can predict something like that happening.

Garcia Bronco · 07-23-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Northman

Not at all. Ive never seen it as them being at fault. Seung-Hui Cho is responsible for his own actions. No one can predict something like that happening.

Inforamtion security is part of what I do and information does have to leave the organization, but to leave his job and not return materials is troubling

Northman · 07-23-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Inforamtion security is part of what I do and information does have to leave the organization, but to leave his job and not return materials is troubling

Yea, i mean it could of been an oversight but after the events you would think that this guy's name would have reminded him that he had the files. Just bizarre.

alkemical · 07-24-2009, 08:28 AM

maybe he was an MKultra type of experiment....

07-23-2009, 12:30 PM	#1
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Va. Tech Gunman's Mental Health Records are Found This should be interesting, a Tech clinic director took the records home and didn't tell anyone. These records could show some damaging evidence that the University concealed from the public. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Va. Tech gunman's mental health records are found ICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Missing mental health records of Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho have been discovered in the home of the university clinic's former director, according to a memo obtained by The Associated Press today. Cho killed 32 people on April 16, 2007, then committed suicide as police closed in. His mental health treatment has been a major issue in the investigation of the shootings. A memo from Gov. Tim Kaine's chief legal counsel to victims' family members says Cho's records and those of several other Virginia Tech students were found July 18 in the home of Dr. Robert H. Miller. The memo said the records were removed from the Cook Counseling Center on the Virginia Tech campus more than a year before the shootings. "I appreciate your call, but I'm not making comment at this time," Miller said when reached at a number for his private practice. The recovery of the records, which eluded a vast criminal investigation two years ago, was first announced by Kaine at a news conference today. Kaine said a Virginia State Police criminal investigation into how the records disappeared from the center where Cho was ordered to undergo counseling is under way. Removing records from the center is illegal, he said. Kaine said he was dismayed that it took two years before they were found by attorneys in a lawsuit brought by families of the victims. "That is part of the investigation that I am very interested in and, of course, I'm very concerned about that," Kaine said. The state planned to release the records publicly as soon as possible, either by consent from Cho's estate or through a subpoena. (continued)

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07-23-2009, 12:32 PM	#2
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	The records were removed a year before the shooting. So unless the doctor was a precog you are barking up the wrong tree.

07-23-2009, 12:37 PM	#3
Bronco_Beerslug Angling in the Deep Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Texas Riviera, Southern Mountains Posts: 24,281	Probe Into Va. Tech Shootings Again Questioned After Mental Health Records Of Shooter Surface BLACKSBURG, Va. (AP) — The discovery of missing mental health records of the Virginia Tech gunman has victims' families and the governor questioning the thoroughness of the criminal investigation into the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history. FILE - In this undated file photo released by the Virginia State Police, Seung-Hui Cho is shown. Missing mental health records for Virginia Tech gunman Seung-Hui Cho have been found more than two years after the massacre, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine said Wednesday, July 22, 2009. (AP Photo/Virginia State Police) (Anonymous, ASSOCIATED PRESS / April 17, 2007) The potentially explosive evidence eluded authorities for more than two years until Seung-Hui Cho's files turned up at the home of a former university counseling official, angering families still struggling to understand how the killer fell through the cracks at the university. The development, disclosed in a memo obtained Wednesday by The Associated Press, represents another embarrassing lapse in the case. "Deception comes to my mind in my first response," said Suzanne Grimes, whose son Kevin Sterne was wounded. "It gives me the impression, 'What else are they hiding?'" The contents of the file have not been made public, and Gov. Tim Kaine said it is unclear why Dr. Robert C. Miller, former director of the campus clinic where Cho was counseled because of his disturbing behavior, took the records home more than a year before Cho killed 32 people and committed suicide on April 16, 2007. The governor said he was dismayed that it took so long to find the records. (continued)

07-23-2009, 01:06 PM	#4
Northman The Enigma Prognosis Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,925 Adopt-a-Bronco: Bryci	Yea, i posted this yesterday. Very strange.

07-24-2009, 08:28 AM	#9
alkemical Guerrilla Ontologist rorrim\|mirror Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Future Posts: 42,691 Adopt-a-Bronco: Prima Materia	maybe he was an MKultra type of experiment....