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Old 02-08-2009, 02:56 AM   #151
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I PMed socal immediately and asked him to get back in here. No one had San Fran as a first choice, so it's a non-issue. We just have to agree on aa set way to do this thing every year, that's all. If we have only three guys that are married to their teams, that's no big problem. I just had no idea that was the case. If I had known that I would have gone that way from the start.

I honestly don't think anyone else cares all that much.
I'm glad that SoCal is getting his team. I would love to have the same team each year but I do understand that we should let new posters get a fair shot too. I picked for the Packers a few years ago and thats why I wanted them as one of my teams.

I would welcome more then just one co GM if there are multiple people that want to be apart of this. PM me if you do. Its a good time and I have no problem listening to others.
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Old 02-08-2009, 04:36 AM   #152
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If anyone thinks this is unfair or has an issue with this system, PM me and let me know. Otherwise this seems reasonable.
Its a good system, though I completely understand what you were aiming for this year, since as the mock has gained in popularity there have been fewer and fewer openings each year. When bringing in co-GMs and assistant GMs you add another wrinkle on top of that, and if we allowed succession rights from GMs to their #2's we'd quickly see the amount of newcomers involved drop to pretty much zero (which despite my hatred of the nubz I think is a bad thing).

But then maybe thats the solution in and of itself? newcomers can start out with an established GM that we know will make his picks on time and as they get into the flow they can either take over another team when a vacancy arises, or step up to the full GM role when the GM they've been working with decides to hang it up.

Regardless though, a mock draft that doesn't have SoCal picking for SF would just feel wrong. This was all his baby to start with and its not like we'd find anyone who'll make more appropriate picks for a team than he could for SF (including the 49ers front office).
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Old 02-08-2009, 06:27 AM   #153
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I just had no idea that was the case. If I had known that I would have gone that way from the start.

Thats the biggest issue here. I too dont really care but when Florida Bronco explained how he and a few others were doing it i totally understood where he was coming from. But i do think it was on SoCal's and those guys shoulders to enlighten you about the system they had been using so that we could of avoided all this from the get go. Communication people, it goes a long way. I can say right now that if FB wants back in on Detroit and the guy who has them would be willing to take Bmore i would give up my spot on the draft this year so that the guys who have been using this system could continue to play in it. Not that big a deal to me honestly.

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Old 02-08-2009, 07:59 AM   #154
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Thats the biggest issue here. I too dont really care but when Florida Bronco explained how he and a few others were doing it i totally understood where he was coming from. But i do think it was on SoCal's and those guys shoulders to enlighten you about the system they had been using so that we could of avoided all this from the get go. Communication people, it goes a long way. I can say right now that if FB wants back in on Detroit and the guy who has them would be willing to take Bmore i would give up my spot on the draft this year so that the guys who have been using this system could continue to play in it. Not that big a deal to me honestly.
Nothing was on Socal at all. He started the draft, but didn't run it last year, nor this year. Thinking it over, I have as much blame as anybody. I busted out the rules and started going 100 MPH right out of the gates. Hindsight being 20/20, proposing the rules and getting feedback would have been the best move.

As it is, we just had a communication issue. We've communicated and now that everything is settled, we're moving on. Florida is going to be involved in the draft in some capacity, which is great, and I sincerely hope Socal drafts for SF. Problem solved, no more drama, let's move on.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:21 AM   #155
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So this starts 8 am after the combine?

Can we get a specific date on that? Thanks
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:06 PM   #156
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So this starts 8 am after the combine?

Can we get a specific date on that? Thanks
February 25th at 8 AM is the start time.
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Old 02-08-2009, 03:32 PM   #157
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while I know the answer to this question, I'm going to ask anyways.

since I'm going to be drafting for the CowGirls, Can I trade Roy Williams back to the Lyons? I'd like to have my first and third round picks back
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:53 PM   #158
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There's is no whining in the draft. I don't even want to be involved if SoCal isn't in it with the Niners. Let's go ladies. Let's have some fun.
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Old 02-08-2009, 09:38 PM   #159
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The #1 pick in the 2009 draft is available. Taking offers.
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Old 02-08-2009, 11:03 PM   #160
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Saints are looking to trade down. FYI
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Old 02-09-2009, 03:42 AM   #161
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:38 AM   #162
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:43 AM   #163
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while I know the answer to this question, I'm going to ask anyways.

since I'm going to be drafting for the CowGirls, Can I trade Roy Williams back to the Lyons? I'd like to have my first and third round picks back
In that case i want my 5th for Keary Colbert back too dammit! I'm gonna need it! Jeez, SEA gots some friggin issues..........
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:13 AM   #164
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:39 AM   #165
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Using the draft chart above, amended so that the 0.4 drop per pick continues from 146 to 224, I made a list of how many points each team starts with. I used this list to determine trades that had already occurred: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_Draft If that list is incorrect, please let me know.

DET 4979
STL 3596
KC 3204
SEA 2714.4
CIN 2528.2
GB 2418.1
CLE 2365.8
OAK 2357
JAC 2290.6
PHI 2170.1
SF 2140.6
BUF 2097.1
DEN 1995.3
HOU 1837.4
MIA 1776.6
NE 1761.6
NYJ 1737.9
NYG 1656.1
CHI 1603.8
TB 1586.6
MIN 1405
WAS 1397.2
ATL 1373.5
SD 1341.6
BAL 1288.2
IND 1201.6
NO 1179.4
TEN 1092
ARI 1086
PIT 1071.6
DAL 900.6
CAR 531.2


I was going to say sorry to whoever has Carolina, but it appears that no one does. Both Chaz and Dbroncos4life have Green Bay, though. Is that a typo?
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:03 AM   #166
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers looking to trade down in the first round...
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thanks magic for that.
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The carolina-Green Bay thing is a typo. I'll get it sorted out. Thanks.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:15 AM   #169
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Jacksonville is looking to trade down from #8
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:25 AM   #170
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Can we trade future picks?

btw.. is there a more detailed list of rules for us newbies? I know the basics but Im sure there are a bunch ive not heard of. Thanks!
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:52 AM   #172
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So we can trade players, future picks and current picks?
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So we can trade players, future picks and current picks?
Nope. Just draft picks. Current draft picks.
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Old 02-09-2009, 10:31 AM   #174
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Sorry if I'm just flat out missing it... but when is this kicking off?
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We start Wednesday the 25th at 8 AM, the day right after the combine ends.
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