Iverson for Chauncey Billups and Antonio McDyess - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

24champ · 11-03-2008, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

relax its just a joke. No need for pissy posts. I always give A.L.F. **** about the Lakers. Its a friendly rivalry.

Plus its rivalry week. I play you in FF this week. It's on b*tch .

theAPAOps5 · 11-03-2008, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by A.L.F.

Zing!

I think Apa knows that the Thuggets like how our ass tastes. 0-8 vs the Lakers lately.

Ha yeah they definitely do. Honestly the Lakers are stout and deep on the bench. They are a good team with a good future. I was laughing out loud when Gasol dunked all over the Nugget the other night.

theAPAOps5 · 11-03-2008, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by A.L.F.

Plus its rivalry week. I play you in FF this week. It's on b*tch .

I must have really pissed of CBF1 with my comment. The dude neg repped me and his rep is like a billion points! I guess he never noticed our back and forth about the Lakers.

Oh and if I were you I would feel very comfortable facing me this coming week. My team is tanking. Cutler was racking up points and he has gone all dumb on me so it might be time to bench him but I think you have a good chance to tear me the shreds.

SouthStndJunkie · 11-03-2008, 09:53 AM

Nice to see Chauncey back home.

montrose · 11-03-2008, 09:54 AM

Love this trade! Welcome home Chauncey!

FYI, there's talk the Nugz will be buying out McDyess.

Peoples Champ · 11-03-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by A.L.F.

Wonder if I can start my LAKERS WILL win the Title thread.

Wasnt there one of those last year?

rovolution · 11-03-2008, 10:10 AM

its appropriate that Chauncey will finish his NBA days in his home town.

the Iverson-Anthony-Camby trio just didnt yield any results. glad the FO recognized this and are trying to shake things up. Chauncey is more of a pure PG and that will help Melo and JR tremendously.

Bronco X · 11-03-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by rovolution

Chauncey is more of a pure PG and that will help Melo and JR tremendously.

Bingo. I love AI but his game is being the main scorer, dominating the ball. He can't play any other way. In terms of chemistry Chauncey is a way better fit.

BroncoBuff · 11-03-2008, 12:33 PM

Very very good trade ... JR can start now with Billups (a true point guard), and McDyess is a godsend after losing Camby.

How much does McDyess have left in the tank?

BroncoBuff · 11-03-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronco X

Bingo. I love AI but his game is being the main scorer, dominating the ball.

And he's a matchup problem ... as good as he is on offense, he's not a true point guard. And he can't defend the opponent's shooting guard. Actually, if we had managed to keep Andre Miller, that wouldda worked because Andre could swap between 1 on offense and 2 on defense.

But no matter, it's Chauncey and JR now ... nice pair.

Peoples Champ · 11-03-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Very very good trade ... JR can start now with Billups (a true point guard), and McDyess is a godsend after losing Camby.

How much does McDyess have left in the tank?

I think I heard that they will by him out and drop him. For some technical reason he has to be part of the trade.

Peoples Champ · 11-03-2008, 12:39 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

BroncoBuff · 11-03-2008, 12:44 PM

No way Peoples.... McDyess had 8.5 rebounds and 9 points a game last year. And he plays defense ... he's a big deal in this thing.

Peoples Champ · 11-03-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

No way Peoples.... McDyess had 8.5 rebounds and 9 points a game last year. And he plays defense ... he's a big deal in this thing.

No I want him on the team, I think he would do good. But I heard that from Steven A Smith and somewhere else that he would be dropped. I am not sure why.

BroncoBuff · 11-03-2008, 12:48 PM

I hope not. Those are good numbers ... and he plays D.

BroncoBuff · 11-03-2008, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peoples Champ

No I want him on the team, I think he would do good. But I heard that from Steven A Smith and somewhere else that he would be dropped. I am not sure why.

Stephen A. Smith must've been referring to Juwon Howard ... the Nuggest just released Howard after the trade was announced.

McDyess is a great addition imo ... I'm looking forward to a Nene/K-Mart/McDyess rotation at C/PF ... and a few minutes for the Birdman on top. They just re-signed Balkman, too. Is he any good?

Peoples Champ · 11-03-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Stephen A. Smith must've been referring to Juwon Howard ... the Nuggest just released Howard after the trade was announced.

McDyess is a great addition imo ... I'm looking forward to a Nene/K-Mart/McDyess rotation at C/PF ... and a few minutes for the Birdman on top. They just re-signed Balkman, too. Is he any good?

Not sure, I have always thought we should have gotten rid of Kmart instead of Camby, I always thought Kmart was overpaid and overrated. But we will have to see. I hope McDyess can play, I am not sure what will happen with him. We need that D.

Master___Pain · 11-03-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peoples Champ

I think I heard that they will by him out and drop him. For some technical reason he has to be part of the trade.

McDyess does not want to be a Nugget allegedly, the Nugget front office is trying to convince Dice that he would fit here. If not they could buyout his contract and he could sign anywhere or he can retire. I hope the releasing of Howard is indicative of McDyess changing his tune and deciding the 3rd time around would not be so bad.

GSRelyea · 11-03-2008, 03:39 PM

According to ESPN McDyess will be waived then will wait the 30 days and re-sign with the Pistons. Which sucks because he could have really helped us inside.

montrose · 11-03-2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Stephen A. Smith must've been referring to Juwon Howard ... the Nuggest just released Howard after the trade was announced.

Juwan was waived because he was the only non-guaranteed player on the roster, he'll be resigned after McDyess is waived.

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

They just re-signed Balkman, too. Is he any good?

They picked up his option. He's hurt right now but a really good defender and energy guy. He's a like a younger, more athletic Eduardo Najera, but without the 3 point jumper Eddy developed last year.

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Originally Posted by Peoples Champ

Not sure, I have always thought we should have gotten rid of Kmart instead of Camby, I always thought Kmart was overpaid and overrated. But we will have to see. I hope McDyess can play, I am not sure what will happen with him. We need that D.

K-Mart's the most untradeable player in the league with that contract. While he is clearly WAY overpaid, when healthy he's actually a pretty good player. He's a really good defender who can run the floor and finish plays - not a star by any means but a damn good role player. I liked Camby a lot but he was far more overrated, IMO. He'd string together 20 rebound, 5 block games against bad teams which would inflate his averages but watching Gasol own his @$$ in the paint told me all I needed to know. I'm not trying to dog Camby, he was a loyal Nugget for years and a great guy in the community - I just think K-Mart's a better player.

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Originally Posted by Master___Pain

McDyess does not want to be a Nugget allegedly, the Nugget front office is trying to convince Dice that he would fit here. If not they could buyout his contract and he could sign anywhere or he can retire. I hope the releasing of Howard is indicative of McDyess changing his tune and deciding the 3rd time around would not be so bad.

Actually, there were never any plans for Dice to play here. He was in the trade to make the salaries work. The Nuggets are close to finalizing his buyout which would put his cap number at about $3 million and help the Nuggets get below the luxury tax which was a major priority this season. Howard had to be released as the Nuggets would've had 16 players on the roster, once the buyout is finalized and Dice is released - they'll resign Howard.

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Originally Posted by GSRelyea

According to ESPN McDyess will be waived then will wait the 30 days and re-sign with the Pistons. Which sucks because he could have really helped us inside.

I agree Dice could've helped us on the court as well as with the fan base but the opportunity to buy him out and get under the luxury tax was one the Nuggets couldn't refuse. Within six months, the Nuggets have possibly become a better team with a true PG running the show; become younger with guys like JR, LK and Balkman; and gotten under the luxury tax.

I have no doubt Bearup was responsible for all of this as there's no way those idiots Warkentein and Chapman could've pulled this off.

Projected Nuggets Rotation
Starters: Nene, Martin, Anthony, Smith, Billups
Reserves: Kleiza, Balkman, Andersen, Carter, Jones, Howard, Atkins, Hunter, Samb, Weems

Los Broncos · 11-03-2008, 05:19 PM

Heard about it on the way home.

Pistons want to mix it up a little.

Iverson and Sheed will make for some good media.

DcDyess goes back home to the nuggs.

spdirty · 11-03-2008, 05:38 PM

Well I flat loved AI here, flat loved him. Dude gave it everything he had...problem was he was kind of a ball stopper and his defense was a liability.

Now Chauncey, YES! Welcome back home where you truly belong brotha! FINALLY have a true legit point guard for the first time since trading Dre. When I first heard about this trade I was kinda like WTF?!?!? But now I like it a lot. Get Smith in the starting rotation and get him more minutes, and Anthony Carter is back to where he belongs. Good backup point guard getting maybe 10-15 minutes a game. Now if this Nuggets team can stay healthy I think they can win the division and maybe FINALLY a playoff round.

Now damnit he better finish his career here. Its only right.

Los Broncos · 11-03-2008, 05:55 PM

Can we just start the playoffs now?

We just about know who's going every year.

Just sit through a boring season.

theAPAOps5 · 11-03-2008, 06:01 PM

Well Buff be prepared to be disappointed. I read on another site McDyess is opting for the buy out.

Its what the teams want anyways as it gets them closer to the Luxury cap. They went from audaciously over the limit to pretty damn close to it pretty damn quick.

spdirty · 11-03-2008, 06:18 PM

Anyone rule out the possibility of AI coming back to Denver next year?

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11-03-2008, 09:53 AM	#29
SouthStndJunkie Ring of Famer Shannon Says: Listen to The Junkman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 15,260	Nice to see Chauncey back home.

11-03-2008, 09:54 AM	#30
montrose Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 6,095 Adopt-a-Bronco: VP John Elway	Love this trade! Welcome home Chauncey! FYI, there's talk the Nugz will be buying out McDyess.

11-03-2008, 10:10 AM	#32
rovolution Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,949 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	its appropriate that Chauncey will finish his NBA days in his home town. the Iverson-Anthony-Camby trio just didnt yield any results. glad the FO recognized this and are trying to shake things up. Chauncey is more of a pure PG and that will help Melo and JR tremendously.

11-03-2008, 12:33 PM	#34
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Very very good trade ... JR can start now with Billups (a true point guard), and McDyess is a godsend after losing Camby. How much does McDyess have left in the tank?

11-03-2008, 12:39 PM	#37
Peoples Champ Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orange County Posts: 3,100 Adopt-a-Bronco: Champ Bailey	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

11-03-2008, 12:44 PM	#38
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	No way Peoples.... McDyess had 8.5 rebounds and 9 points a game last year. And he plays defense ... he's a big deal in this thing.

11-03-2008, 12:48 PM	#40
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	I hope not. Those are good numbers ... and he plays D.

11-03-2008, 03:39 PM	#44
GSRelyea NEWOUTDOORSMEN.COM Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saratoga, NY Posts: 1,074 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	According to ESPN McDyess will be waived then will wait the 30 days and re-sign with the Pistons. Which sucks because he could have really helped us inside.

11-03-2008, 05:19 PM	#46
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Heard about it on the way home. Pistons want to mix it up a little. Iverson and Sheed will make for some good media. DcDyess goes back home to the nuggs.

11-03-2008, 05:38 PM	#47
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Well I flat loved AI here, flat loved him. Dude gave it everything he had...problem was he was kind of a ball stopper and his defense was a liability. Now Chauncey, YES! Welcome back home where you truly belong brotha! FINALLY have a true legit point guard for the first time since trading Dre. When I first heard about this trade I was kinda like WTF?!?!? But now I like it a lot. Get Smith in the starting rotation and get him more minutes, and Anthony Carter is back to where he belongs. Good backup point guard getting maybe 10-15 minutes a game. Now if this Nuggets team can stay healthy I think they can win the division and maybe FINALLY a playoff round. Now damnit he better finish his career here. Its only right.

11-03-2008, 05:55 PM	#48
Los Broncos Ring of farmers Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anaheim Hills, Santa Ana Mountains CA Posts: 18,766 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Can we just start the playoffs now? We just about know who's going every year. Just sit through a boring season.

11-03-2008, 06:01 PM	#49
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Well Buff be prepared to be disappointed. I read on another site McDyess is opting for the buy out. Its what the teams want anyways as it gets them closer to the Luxury cap. They went from audaciously over the limit to pretty damn close to it pretty damn quick.

11-03-2008, 06:18 PM	#50
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,903 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Anyone rule out the possibility of AI coming back to Denver next year?