OT: Am I being scammed? - The Orange Mane

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 09:45 AM

I've been looking to upgrade the truck I drive and was browsing craigslist for a used vehicle. I see an add for an '04 Chevrolet Silverado 2500, lifted, 31K miles, I mean just cherry...for $4500. I'm all over this, so I e-mail the guy. He says he has a contract with an escrow company...tells me to send a moneygram for $4500 to this company and they will ship me the truck. So I go to this online escrow website and register. I'm starting to feel like somethings up so I call the number listed on the site...it's a non-working number. I tell the seller my suspicions and he says don't worry. Once they have my money, they will ship the truck. I have a week to decide if I want to keep the truck. If I'm not satisfied, he will pay to ship it back. This seems too good to be true!!! So I go back to craiglist ad....and its gone! Then I see a big disclaimer on craiglist warning of this type of transaction! Either I'm an idiot for passing on this or I'm an idiot for going through with this! I haven't sent any money and am going to back out but damn! The **** people will go through to rob someone blind! Here's the website to this online escrow company: www.autradeals.com Thoughts?

bronclvr · 08-05-2008, 10:05 AM

Are you being scammed?

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is no free lunch-granted, I'm seeing Pickup Trucks going for a lot less now, but not for that kind of money-deal with a reputable Dealer or Individual-if it walks like a Duck..............

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 10:15 AM

Here's a pic of the truck. Nice ride...huh?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...do5/d578_3.jpg

LordHelmchen · 08-05-2008, 10:22 AM

If it seems to be too good to be true... then it probably is too good to be true.
The website makes me highly suspicious.. for example that you find no google entries for it. You can find something on google if you search for auto trade deals.., but it points to atrdeals.com, which is an under construction site.
And a not working number? That alone is enough...

Stay the hell away from it!!

Hotrod · 08-05-2008, 10:35 AM

4500 for that truck you have to be ****ting me. Your getting scammed no doubt about it.

TailgateNut · 08-05-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dbfan4life

Here's a pic of the truck. Nice ride...huh?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...do5/d578_3.jpg

$4500

Not only a scam, but an ambush!

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 11:11 AM

E-mailed the guy this morning. Told him if he was serious, put the truck in my driveway. If I liked, I would pay him directly and reimburse the shipping charge
in addition to the $4500 he was asking. He replied back "If you don't trust me then don't buy!".

Hotrod · 08-05-2008, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbfan4life

E-mailed the guy this morning. Told him if he was serious, put the truck in my driveway. If I liked, I would pay him directly and reimburse the shipping charge
in addition to the $4500 he was asking. He replied back "If you don't trust me then don't buy!".

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=

Thats without knowing what added options are on the truck.

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=

Thats without knowing what added options are on the truck.

Value w/ options.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=

He fed me a sob story of how he needed the money for his son's medical bills. Who knows, maybe he's telling the truth....not!

Hotrod · 08-05-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dbfan4life

Value w/ options.

http://www.kbb.com/KBB/UsedCars/Pric...uizConditions=

He fed me a sob story of how he needed the money for his son's medical bills. Who knows, maybe he's telling the truth....not!

How far away is it. Tell the dude you will pick it up. Take a couple of friends and have a road trip.

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

How far away is it. Tell the dude you will pick it up. Take a couple of friends and have a road trip.

Said veh was in some hick town in TX. About 600 miles from where I'm at. Would definitely be worth the trip!

Orange_Beard · 08-05-2008, 02:34 PM

They are scamming you. They are ****ing scum bags. Me on the other hand, I am your friend.
If you send me 4500 cash, I will get you ANY truck, you want. You pick the make model what ever you want...

I must have the cash first.

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orange_Beard

They are scamming you. They are ****ing scum bags. Me on the other hand, I am your friend.
If you send me 4500 cash, I will get you ANY truck, you want. You pick the make model what ever you want...

I must have the cash first.

Well, if your a friend and all......why not!!!!

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrod

How far away is it. Tell the dude you will pick it up. Take a couple of friends and have a road trip.

I proposed this to the guy and he asks when can I be there. I tell him this weekend. He says he needs to sell the truck today. I tell him I'll guarantee I'll be there cash in hand. He says he wants me to send the money through that escrow company to ensure that I'm going to buy. I say this is the only way this deal gets done. He says contact him on Friday to see if he still has vehicle. $100 says that truck is sold by then.

Hotrod · 08-05-2008, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbfan4life

I proposed this to the guy and he asks when can I be there. I tell him this weekend. He says he needs to sell the truck today. I tell him I'll guarantee I'll be there cash in hand. He says he wants me to send the money through that escrow company to ensure that I'm going to buy. I say this is the only way this deal gets done. He says contact him on Friday to see if he still has vehicle. $100 says that truck is sold by then.

I'd tell him your uncle is currently on vacation from the FBI in the area and is willing to swing buy and pick it up tonight. You just need the address.

bronco0608 · 08-05-2008, 04:45 PM

What's this dude number? I can call him and tell him I'm interested in the truck (even though I'm not) and see what story he gives me.

dbfan4life · 08-05-2008, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco0608

What's this dude number? I can call him and tell him I'm interested in the truck (even though I'm not) and see what story he gives me.

I initially contacted him through his craigslist ad (El Paso). It's not there anymore but here's dudes e-mail. paulgordonui@gmail.com His name is Paul Gordon.

08-05-2008, 09:45 AM	#1
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	OT: Am I being scammed? I've been looking to upgrade the truck I drive and was browsing craigslist for a used vehicle. I see an add for an '04 Chevrolet Silverado 2500, lifted, 31K miles, I mean just cherry...for $4500. I'm all over this, so I e-mail the guy. He says he has a contract with an escrow company...tells me to send a moneygram for $4500 to this company and they will ship me the truck. So I go to this online escrow website and register. I'm starting to feel like somethings up so I call the number listed on the site...it's a non-working number. I tell the seller my suspicions and he says don't worry. Once they have my money, they will ship the truck. I have a week to decide if I want to keep the truck. If I'm not satisfied, he will pay to ship it back. This seems too good to be true!!! So I go back to craiglist ad....and its gone! Then I see a big disclaimer on craiglist warning of this type of transaction! Either I'm an idiot for passing on this or I'm an idiot for going through with this! I haven't sent any money and am going to back out but damn! The **** people will go through to rob someone blind! Here's the website to this online escrow company: www.autradeals.com Thoughts?

08-05-2008, 10:05 AM	#2
bronclvr Ring of Famer She is faster than you! 8.39 @ 156 Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,996	Are you being scammed? YES!!!!!!!!!!!! There is no free lunch-granted, I'm seeing Pickup Trucks going for a lot less now, but not for that kind of money-deal with a reputable Dealer or Individual-if it walks like a Duck.............. Last edited by bronclvr; 08-05-2008 at 10:15 AM..

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08-05-2008, 10:15 AM	#3
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	Here's a pic of the truck. Nice ride...huh? http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...do5/d578_3.jpg

08-05-2008, 10:22 AM	#4
LordHelmchen Single-Malt Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 1,064	If it seems to be too good to be true... then it probably is too good to be true. The website makes me highly suspicious.. for example that you find no google entries for it. You can find something on google if you search for auto trade deals.., but it points to atrdeals.com, which is an under construction site. And a not working number? That alone is enough... Stay the hell away from it!!

08-05-2008, 10:35 AM	#5
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	4500 for that truck you have to be ****ting me. Your getting scammed no doubt about it.

08-05-2008, 11:11 AM	#7
dbfan4life Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Las Cruces, NM Posts: 2,499	E-mailed the guy this morning. Told him if he was serious, put the truck in my driveway. If I liked, I would pay him directly and reimburse the shipping charge in addition to the $4500 he was asking. He replied back "If you don't trust me then don't buy!".

08-05-2008, 02:34 PM	#12
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	They are scamming you. They are ****ing scum bags. Me on the other hand, I am your friend. If you send me 4500 cash, I will get you ANY truck, you want. You pick the make model what ever you want... I must have the cash first.

08-05-2008, 04:45 PM	#16
bronco0608 Ring of Famer New to the Forum Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,177 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	What's this dude number? I can call him and tell him I'm interested in the truck (even though I'm not) and see what story he gives me.