OFFICIAL Branden Albert vs Ryan Clady thread - Page 8 - The Orange Mane

Man-Goblin · 06-20-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I seem to remember a game in 2002 at Arrowhead where he went up the seam on a middle post route and completely outran your whole defense after the catch for like 50 yards or something.

And he was 34 at the time.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=221020012

This is actually a pretty awesome read. Griese was 30-50 in that game with 376 yards. Buah.

Man-Goblin · 06-20-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Man-Goblin

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=221020012

This is actually a pretty awesome read. Greise was 30-50 in that game with 376 yards. Buah.

Oh ****. after further analysis, it gets better.

"After Sharpe beat three defenders for his first TD, an 82-yarder, he couldn't resist needling Kansas City's fans. He bent down in the end zone, unfastened some tape from his shoe and showed them what was written underneath."

DenverBrit · 06-20-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Man-Goblin

Oh ****. after further analysis, it gets better.

"After Sharpe beat three defenders for his first TD, an 82-yarder, he couldn't resist needling Kansas City's fans. He bent down in the end zone, unfastened some tape from his bunny slipper and showed them what was written underneath."

Florida_Bronco · 06-20-2008, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Nothing says Pinata like the Boob.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

Bobo really is like a pinata, think about...he's constantly getting beat on and his rather large volume is filled with candy, junk food and other assorted bull****.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...6&postcount=44

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-20-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I seem to remember a game in 2002 at Arrowhead where he went up the seam on a middle post route and completely outran your whole defense after the catch for like 50 yards or something.

And he was 34 at the time.

We had a pretty slow defense. That's not really an argument in Sharpe's favor.

BroncoBuff · 06-21-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

We had a pretty slow defense. That's not really an argument in Sharpe's favor.

Yeah. Anybody could have split the seam for 50 against that chef secondary.

Florida_Bronco · 06-21-2008, 12:00 AM

Bobo spins again. He must be feeling pretty dizzy right about now.

kmonty · 06-21-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Here's another angle. Incredible catch. Sharpe couldn't do this. It also wasn't a zone defense. The corners were manned up. It also took an army of Chargers to bring Tony down. EPIC. Show some respect.

his teammate is tackling him too.

Even in the middle of a good play the Chiefs display incompetence.

DenverBrit · 06-21-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Florida_Bronco

I agree.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...6&postcount=44

or

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Originally Posted by DenverBrit

Every board needs a Pinata.

Bob hands out sticks when he posts.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthr...ta#post1292002

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-21-2008, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Yeah. Anybody could have split the seam for 50 against that chef secondary.

Actually, it's true. We had the second-worst secondary that year. We had dudes like Quincy Morgan lighting us up.

DBroncos4life · 06-21-2008, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

We had a pretty slow defense. That's not really an argument in Sharpe's favor.

Chargers D was a poor leaping defense. That's not really and argument in Tony's favor.

Inkana7 · 06-21-2008, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

I seem to remember a game in 2002 at Arrowhead where he went up the seam on a middle post route and completely outran your whole defense after the catch for like 50 yards or something.

And he was 34 at the time.

I also seem to remember him setting an NFL Record for yards by a TE that day. 214.

Gonzo couldn't do that.

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 12:18 AM

Bob, you're a ******.

In other news, Sharpe is still better than Gonzo. I still feel bad for Gonzo, playing his career with the worthless chefs.

Rausch 2.0 · 06-21-2008, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Atwater His Ass

In other news, Sharpe is still better than Gonzo. I still feel bad for Gonzo, playing his career with the worthless chefs.

And yet so much more productive than Sharpe.

Gonzo will break all of Sharpe's records and career stats while playing with inferior talent to what Sharpe had.

Gonzo's never had a decent QB other than 2 years with Green. Gonzo's never had a legit WR to take the attention away from him. Gonzo never even had a legit HB to make teams defend the run until Priest got here.

Yet, Gonzo still managed to bust Sharpes records. And it's even more impressive when you consider he didn't get all those playoff games and super bowls Sharpe had.

So, he's done it with less talent and fewer games.

Clearly, Sharpe is the better player...

BroncoBuff · 06-21-2008, 12:48 AM

This is a silly argument ... both are first-ballot Hall-of-Famers, but Shannon Sharpe will be better remembered for the Lombardis, his personality, that he made ALL the big plays leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl, and that he accomplished his numbers within an offense studded with stars. Gonzalez will be a Charles Barkley type who never won the big one, but had remarkable numbers in offenses with mostly pedestrian QBs and skill position players ... at least until 2001 when Priest Holmes finally broke out. He will be slightly discounted by those in the know because the chefs haven't had a really superior WR since Otis Taylor, or at least Carlos Carson

... so he had tons of balls thrown his way by mediocre QBs who couldn't get the ball downfield.

Rausch 2.0 · 06-21-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

He will be slightly discounted by those in the know because the chefs haven't had a really superior WR since Otis Taylor, or at least Carlos Carson

... so he had tons of balls thrown his way by mediocre QBs who couldn't get the ball downfield.

I would disagree with this. The fact that he had no HB/WR to open him up or distract a defense should add to his production.

Really, honestly, going into next year what scares the average Denver fan?

Bowe is good but he's young. LJ is still a stud but most people think a freak injury is somehow tied to his carries.

Gonzo. They'll shut down Gonzo and likely win.

Another argument I don't like is the "athleticism" argument. "Well, Sharpe was a better pure athlete." I'd argue the only pure talents at the TE position higher than Sharpe are Winslow and Mackey.

Even so that has squat to due with HOF votes. At least it shouldn't.

Bo Jackson was likely the most talented athlete to ever play in the NFL. Hell, Mike Vick was easily the most physically gifted athlete to ever play QB. Hands down. It was like taking Elway and then squaring him.

But who's going to the HOF and who's going to showers covering his @$$?

Production is what matters, or should matter.

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

And yet so much more productive than Sharpe.

Gonzo will break all of Sharpe's records and career stats while playing with inferior talent to what Sharpe had.

Gonzo's never had a decent QB other than 2 years with Green. Gonzo's never had a legit WR to take the attention away from him. Gonzo never even had a legit HB to make teams defend the run until Priest got here.

Yet, Gonzo still managed to bust Sharpes records. And it's even more impressive when you consider he didn't get all those playoff games and super bowls Sharpe had.

So, he's done it with less talent and fewer games.

Clearly, Sharpe is the better player...

Cause we all know every player plays for stats not rings. Just ask Marino.

BroncoBuff · 06-21-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

And yet so much more productive than Sharpe.

Gonzo will break all of Sharpe's records and career stats while playing with inferior talent to what Sharpe had.

Gonzo's never had a decent QB other than 2 years with Green. Gonzo's never had a legit WR to take the attention away from him. Gonzo never even had a legit HB to make teams defend the run until Priest got here.

Yet, Gonzo still managed to bust Sharpes records. And it's even more impressive when you consider he didn't get all those playoff games and super bowls Sharpe had.

So, he's done it with less talent and fewer games.

Clearly, Sharpe is the better player...

The fact he played with LESS talent around him, and with MEDIOCRE quarterbacks means he was thrown to far, FAR more times than he would have been on another team, say Denver. So your argument is pro-Sharpe.

THIS would be an interesting stat: Total number of balls thrown to each - divide into that number of chances the yards and TDs. Sharpe would almost certainly come out on top.

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

I would disagree with this...

of course you do, you're a douche.

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Originally Posted by Rausch 2.0

Production is what matters, or should matter.

The warcry of the perennial loser. Championships, what?

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

The fact he played with LESS talent around him, and with MEDIOCRE quarterbacks means he was thrown to far, FAR more times than he would have been on another team, say Denver. So your argument is pro-Sharpe.

THIS would be an interesting stat: Total number of balls thrown to each - divide into that number of chances the yards and TDs. Sharpe would almost certainly come out on top.

Don't forget buff, this is literaly all the chef fans have left. It grates on them continuously that a Bronco is still better than the only thing they've had to cheer for over the last decade plus. I love this thread.

BroncoBuff · 06-21-2008, 01:16 AM

Sharpe was generally the third or fourth option on this offense.

Gonzo was #2 mostly, and before Priest he was option #1 alotta the time.

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-21-2008, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

The fact he played with LESS talent around him, and with MEDIOCRE quarterbacks means he was thrown to far, FAR more times than he would have been on another team, say Denver. So your argument is pro-Sharpe.

It's a wash at best.

Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

Bob's your Information Minister · 06-21-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Sharpe was generally the third or fourth option on this offense.

Gonzo was #2 mostly, and before Priest he was option #1 alotta the time.

Explain why he didn't have 100 catches in Baltimore, then.

Answer: He wasn't as good as Gonzalez.

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 01:20 AM

lol. I like how not even 1 Bronco fan tries to take anything away from Gonzo and what he's accomplished with a hapless chef franchise...but on the flipside, the chef pink pony riders just refuse to recognize Sharpe's greatness. That's ok though, I'll enjoy my back to back Super Bowl wins, while you try to convince us how high the great gonz can jump.

Atwater His Ass · 06-21-2008, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

Explain why he didn't have 100 catches in Baltimore, then.

Answer: He wasn't as good as Gonzalez.

Sharpe SB rings with Baltimore: 1

Gonzo rings with chefs: 0.

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06-21-2008, 12:00 AM	#182
Florida_Bronco Got trolls? Welcome to Mile High, Brady! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 13,810 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brady Quinn	Bobo spins again. He must be feeling pretty dizzy right about now.

06-21-2008, 12:18 AM	#188
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	Bob, you're a ******. In other news, Sharpe is still better than Gonzo. I still feel bad for Gonzo, playing his career with the worthless chefs.

06-21-2008, 12:48 AM	#190
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	This is a silly argument ... both are first-ballot Hall-of-Famers, but Shannon Sharpe will be better remembered for the Lombardis, his personality, that he made ALL the big plays leading the Ravens to the Super Bowl, and that he accomplished his numbers within an offense studded with stars. Gonzalez will be a Charles Barkley type who never won the big one, but had remarkable numbers in offenses with mostly pedestrian QBs and skill position players ... at least until 2001 when Priest Holmes finally broke out. He will be slightly discounted by those in the know because the chefs haven't had a really superior WR since Otis Taylor, or at least Carlos Carson ... so he had tons of balls thrown his way by mediocre QBs who couldn't get the ball downfield.

06-21-2008, 01:16 AM	#196
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Sharpe was generally the third or fourth option on this offense. Gonzo was #2 mostly, and before Priest he was option #1 alotta the time.

06-21-2008, 01:20 AM	#199
Atwater His Ass Ring of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 5,360 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	lol. I like how not even 1 Bronco fan tries to take anything away from Gonzo and what he's accomplished with a hapless chef franchise...but on the flipside, the chef pink pony riders just refuse to recognize Sharpe's greatness. That's ok though, I'll enjoy my back to back Super Bowl wins, while you try to convince us how high the great gonz can jump.