Tom Brady > John Elway - The Orange Mane

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 09:46 AM

No, I'm no more a Brady fan than I was an Elway fan. But it would be hard to argue both weren't great QBs. However, if you had to pick one over the other, then any clear thinking person would have to pick Brady as the better QB.

Agree or disagree?

And why?

Meck77 · 01-26-2008, 09:57 AM

I'm thinking bacon, scrambled eggs, side of hash browns.

SoDak Bronco · 01-26-2008, 10:08 AM

Fruitloops for breakfast...ahhhhhhhhh love those darn things.

2KBack · 01-26-2008, 10:12 AM

Damn people have some quality breakfasts around here. I'm usually stuck grabbing a redbull and a protien bar while running out the door.

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meck77

I'm thinking bacon, scrambled eggs, side of hash browns.

Ha ha ha.

You're stupid enough to think I dont see this as a cop out?

I know you have no arguement. So this is how you respond. I've seen it many times here. You'd have been better served not to respond at all, than to cry uncle.

PWNED!

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 10:18 AM

No arguement huh boys?

I knew that though.

My breakfast?

A little ham, a little bacon. Had a couple eggs and a few home fries.

Good stuff.

orangeatheist · 01-26-2008, 10:23 AM

My wife made pancakes this morning. Hmm....love that Log Cabin!

Dagmar · 01-26-2008, 10:28 AM

I was gonna have oatmeal but never been able to make it right.

Cheerios it is!

Borks147 · 01-26-2008, 10:34 AM

I made some crepes, one with egg, cheddar and prosciutto and another with bananas and condensed milk. It was pretty good.

chadta · 01-26-2008, 10:36 AM

hows this, elway didnt have to cheat to win

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

I was gonna have oatmeal but never been able to make it right.

Cheerios it is!

Can't make oatmeal?

You're probably not equiped to debate this topic.

Is there 2 Ps in equiped?

Dagmar · 01-26-2008, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Can't make oatmeal?

You're probably not equiped to debate this topic.

Is there 2 Ps in equiped?

I have a woman to cook for me. You would not understand.

Your livestock don't cook for you I assume.

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

I have a woman to cook for me. You would not understand.

Your livestock don't cook for you I assume.

I've been married to a fantastic woman for over 20 years.

She doesn't appreciate you bringing her into the conversation. I mentioned you called her livestock. Wonders what your motives are. I told her you were grabbing for straws because I had you painted in a corner.

She laughed. Said it was a weak defense.

I love her.

Broncoman13 · 01-26-2008, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagmar

I have a woman to cook for me. You would not understand.

Your livestock don't cook for you I assume.

Pwned!

Meck77 · 01-26-2008, 10:53 AM

And where do the great Chief QBs rank in NFL history? Sorry crazychorf but Montana's stats are with the niners.

Bacon turned out a little burned darn it!

crazyhorse · 01-26-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meck77

And where do the great Chief QBs rank in NFL history? Sorry crazychorf but Montana's stats are with the niners.

Bacon turned out a little burned darn it!

The Chiefs QBs dont rank amongst the best. But I wasn't speaking of Chiefs QBs. Montana was also better than Elway, now that you bring it up.

Why the deflection? Are you argreeing with me that Brady is better? Or are you trying to be tricky this morning?

Bacon is the best part of your breakfast.

Raidersbane · 01-26-2008, 11:13 AM

Every time I saw Elway play against the Pats he won. Every time I saw the Brady play against the Broncos he's lost........I missed the one game where Brady was able to win vs. Danny Kannell. I'll take Elway.

Inkana7 · 01-26-2008, 11:13 AM

Nyuck nyuck nyuck.

Dagmar · 01-26-2008, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I've been married to a fantastic woman for over 20 years.

She doesn't appreciate you bringing her into the conversation. I mentioned you called her livestock. Wonders what your motives are. I told her you were grabbing for straws because I had you painted in a corner.

She laughed. Said it was a weak defense.

I love her.

Well, you came on here to irritate us, I managed to irritate your "wife". (and not "her" usual irritation of genital herpes)

My motives? Some douche came on to a website where I enjoy discussing the Broncos and decided to try and antagonize my fellow fans and I. So I called his wife what she probably is.

crazyhorse & wife =

Now I shall use the ignore function, something I should have done to this new "Bob" a long time ago.

bpc · 01-26-2008, 12:54 PM

You give Elway a crappy team to work with, he'll take them to a super bowl.

You give Brady a crappy team to work with, he'll throw fits and look disinterested like he did for the first 8 weeks of last season.

Give Brady credit, he's had a great career thus far. He's also had a lot working in his favor as well. Lets be careful when comparing him to other great players though.

TheChamp24 · 01-26-2008, 01:20 PM

why hasn't this garbage thread been locked and trashed yet?
Why does this troll continue to get privileges to post crap threads like this just to stir the pot?

And you know what, I like McDonald's breakfast. Their hashbrowns are yummy, and personally, i like the McGriddles.

Jetmeck · 01-26-2008, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

No arguement huh boys?

I knew that though.

My breakfast?

A little ham, a little bacon. Had a couple eggs and a few home fries.

Good stuff.

Is this the best you got ? I mean seriously Brady has had the talent around him all this time and the state of the NFL
is nothing near it was in Elway's career. There are simply no powerful teams out there anywhere. The mediocre NFL
has created a Patriot dynasty. Put any Patriot team up against any of the great SB teams down the road and they will be beaten badly. They have won every SB by what 4 points or less or something like this.

Elway got to the SB 5 times, 3 of which was with medicre at best talent around him and then the powerul NFC teams simply crushed him. There is another point which backs up my state of the NFL, the NFC which was the perennial favorite has simply vanished since Elway's retirement.

Head to head our 98 team would crush anything the Patsies have put on the field and yes Elway with the same talent is a much better QB.

I would seriously rather discuss how the Broncos organization is superior to the Chefs in very way.

Chefs record for the decade is so close to 50% it's ridiculous.

Bronx33 · 01-26-2008, 01:37 PM

NICE BAIT

Arkie · 01-26-2008, 01:38 PM

It's apples and oranges. Brady compares to Joe Montana though.

lex · 01-26-2008, 01:42 PM

I think its worth pointing out that in Elways era there was Young, Montana, Marino, Moon, Kelly, Aikman, and possibly a couple Im forgetting that Elway had to distinguish himself against. In Brady's era, its more or less him and Manning.

A big reason for that is that NFL coaches have less time to turn losing teams into winning teams, and so its less inviting to put a young QB in and let him develop into a pocket passer. And so coaches decide to go with game managers and scramblers. An upper echelon pocket passer trumps the game manager and scrambler but there is also a steeper learning curve, so the benefit isnt realized right away.

Lets also consider whether Brady is better than Manning or whether he has played on the better teams.

01-26-2008, 09:46 AM	#1
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	Tom Brady > John Elway No, I'm no more a Brady fan than I was an Elway fan. But it would be hard to argue both weren't great QBs. However, if you had to pick one over the other, then any clear thinking person would have to pick Brady as the better QB. Agree or disagree? And why?

01-26-2008, 01:42 PM	#25
lex Bowlen Sold Us Out! The Broncos have been DisemBowlened Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chi-Town Posts: 10,253 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I think its worth pointing out that in Elways era there was Young, Montana, Marino, Moon, Kelly, Aikman, and possibly a couple Im forgetting that Elway had to distinguish himself against. In Brady's era, its more or less him and Manning. A big reason for that is that NFL coaches have less time to turn losing teams into winning teams, and so its less inviting to put a young QB in and let him develop into a pocket passer. And so coaches decide to go with game managers and scramblers. An upper echelon pocket passer trumps the game manager and scrambler but there is also a steeper learning curve, so the benefit isnt realized right away. Lets also consider whether Brady is better than Manning or whether he has played on the better teams. Last edited by lex; 01-26-2008 at 01:47 PM..

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01-26-2008, 09:57 AM	#2
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,309	I'm thinking bacon, scrambled eggs, side of hash browns.

01-26-2008, 10:08 AM	#3
SoDak Bronco Lace em' up and lets go!! Von Miller aka QB Killa Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Dakota Posts: 4,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Robert Ayers	Fruitloops for breakfast...ahhhhhhhhh love those darn things.

01-26-2008, 10:12 AM	#4
2KBack Rumblin' Bumblin' Cake is delicious Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Wash DC Posts: 7,275	Damn people have some quality breakfasts around here. I'm usually stuck grabbing a redbull and a protien bar while running out the door.

01-26-2008, 10:18 AM	#6
crazyhorse All Motor!! You can only hope to contain me Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,338	No arguement huh boys? I knew that though. My breakfast? A little ham, a little bacon. Had a couple eggs and a few home fries. Good stuff.

01-26-2008, 10:23 AM	#7
orangeatheist Champion of the Godless Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,012	My wife made pancakes this morning. Hmm....love that Log Cabin!

01-26-2008, 10:28 AM	#8
Dagmar ...there ain't no devil ..there's just God when he's drunk. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Morrison Posts: 17,132 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tim Tebow	I was gonna have oatmeal but never been able to make it right. Cheerios it is!

01-26-2008, 10:34 AM	#9
Borks147 the dude abides... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hanover NH Posts: 1,845	I made some crepes, one with egg, cheddar and prosciutto and another with bananas and condensed milk. It was pretty good.

01-26-2008, 10:36 AM	#10
chadta Atomic Meatball Keeper Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 2,837 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Mc Rib	hows this, elway didnt have to cheat to win

01-26-2008, 10:53 AM	#15
Meck77 Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 16,309	And where do the great Chief QBs rank in NFL history? Sorry crazychorf but Montana's stats are with the niners. Bacon turned out a little burned darn it!

01-26-2008, 11:13 AM	#17
Raidersbane Pro Bowler Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Along the Chesapeake Posts: 744	Every time I saw Elway play against the Pats he won. Every time I saw the Brady play against the Broncos he's lost........I missed the one game where Brady was able to win vs. Danny Kannell. I'll take Elway.

01-26-2008, 11:13 AM	#18
Inkana7 Ring of Famer Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,230 Adopt-a-Bronco: Derek Wolfe	Nyuck nyuck nyuck.

01-26-2008, 12:54 PM	#20
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	You give Elway a crappy team to work with, he'll take them to a super bowl. You give Brady a crappy team to work with, he'll throw fits and look disinterested like he did for the first 8 weeks of last season. Give Brady credit, he's had a great career thus far. He's also had a lot working in his favor as well. Lets be careful when comparing him to other great players though.

01-26-2008, 01:20 PM	#21
TheChamp24 DERP DERP DERP The Legend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 4,874	why hasn't this garbage thread been locked and trashed yet? Why does this troll continue to get privileges to post crap threads like this just to stir the pot? And you know what, I like McDonald's breakfast. Their hashbrowns are yummy, and personally, i like the McGriddles.

01-26-2008, 01:37 PM	#23
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	NICE BAIT

01-26-2008, 01:38 PM	#24
Arkie Ring of Famer Gggggrrrrrr rrrraaaahhh Arrrrhhhn. Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 9,081 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quinton Carter	It's apples and oranges. Brady compares to Joe Montana though.