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Old 01-18-2008, 12:29 AM   #2401
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:53 AM   #2402
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Funny we were talking about the Jesus and Mary Chain the other day, Hogan...the latest offering from Steven Merritt and co. follows closely to the Psychocandy formula. They don't get quite as loud as the Reid brothers, mind you, and they give the lyrics and melodies a more prominent showcase. But it definitely appears to be a nod of the cap of sorts. An excellent effort, and a welcome change of direction by Merritt. His work had gotten kind of stale since the classic 1999 release 69 Love Songs. Ever listened to these guys, Hogan? Here's a gorgeous little ditty from the aforementioned 69 Love Songs:
Nice Inferno...I've never heard of them before. That was really cool and I will be checking into them more shortly.
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:53 AM   #2403
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His wanktastic cheese jazz...
Is that slacker generation code for someone who can play more than open position cowboy chords?

Shall we pull up Carlton's credits and compare them with yours?

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...is only outshined by his supremely groomed balding mullet.
Dude: If you're going to be a music critic then at least try to say something intelligent about the music!
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:03 AM   #2404
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I perfer Mascis myself...just the right mix of noise and ability IMHO
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:08 AM   #2405
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Is that slacker generation code for someone who can play more than open position cowboy chords?
No, but it is a critique of the banality that one can unintentionally invoke by deciding that guitar is more important than music.

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Shall we pull up Carlton's credits and compare them with yours?

He is a fine player, and has probably made a decent living off of his skill. I have no doubt that he is well accredited.


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Dude: If you're going to be a music critic then at least try to say something intelligent about the music!
You have to admit...that is one sweet mullet. He's still living the dream.

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Old 01-18-2008, 11:12 AM   #2406
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LABF is right on the substance, but that last mullet crack is pretty funny
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:19 AM   #2407
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LABF is right on the substance, but that last mullet crack is pretty funny
If I were to sport a mullet of some sort, I would hope that I had someone close enough to me to let me know just how much I am embarrassing myself. No matter what one's intentions are, there is no possible way that they are bringing the mullet back at this point in time. There's just no reason to restart that fad. Might as well work on the rat tail and the stair steps while your at it.

So, LABF...if you are buddies with Carlton, let him know that it might not be the best idea to sport the mullie. For his sake.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:29 AM   #2408
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Secret Machines - Ten Silver Drops
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I'm on a big Coheed & Cambria kick right now. All very talented musicians.

I'm also going to see THe Black Crowes in March, so hopefully that'll be cool.
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Old 01-18-2008, 12:18 PM   #2410
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Some good smack that might be relevant in this thread. Courtesy Bronco Bob:

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A drummer.

How do you tell if the stage is level?
Drool comes out of both corners of the drummer's mouth.

Why are orchestra intermissions limited to 20 minutes?
So you don't have to retrain the drummers.

How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb?
Only one, but he'll break ten bulbs before figuring out that they can't just be pushed in.

How many drummers does it take to change a light bulb?
Twenty. One to hold the bulb, and nineteen to drink until the room spins.

Why is it good that drummers have one more brain cell than a horse?
So they don't disgrace themselves in parades.

How do you get 2 drummers to play in time?
Shoot one.

How is a drum solo like a sneeze?
You can tell it's coming, but you can't do anything about it.

What do drummers use for birth control?
Their personalities.

What is the difference between a drummer and a vacuum cleaner?
You have to plug one of them in before it sucks.

How can you tell a drummer is walking behind you?
You can hear his knuckles dragging on the ground.
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My latest addiction has been John Butler Trio, Live at St. Gallen!!

I'm such a sucker for accoustic! Ever since I saw them live here a couple months back I just can't shake 'em!
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You can tell it's coming, but you can't do anything about it.


Sorry clavi ... but that's funny.
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I'm such a sucker for accoustic! Ever since I saw them live here a couple months back I just can't shake 'em!


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Sorry clavi ... but that's funny.
Q - How many guitarists does it take to change a light-bulb?
A - Twenty. One to change the bulb and nineteen to say
"Not bad, but I could've done better."

Q - What do you throw a drowning guitarist ?
A - His amplifier.

Q - What do you call two guitarists playing in unison?
A - Counterpoint.

Q - How many guitar players does it take to cover a Stevie Ray Vaughan tune ?
A - Evidently all of them.

Q - What do you call a guitar player without a girlfriend?
A - Homeless.

Q - How do you make a lead guitarist slow down?
A - Put some sheet music in front of him.

Drumroll please!


Q - What's black and blue and laying in a ditch?
A - A guitarist who's told too many drummer jokes.

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Old 01-18-2008, 02:39 PM   #2417
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Nice Inferno...I've never heard of them before. That was really cool and I will be checking into them more shortly.
A little bit more from the Magnetic Fields. These are all from 69 Love Songs (I couldn't find anything from the new album on youtube). Oh, and these are all fan videos:


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Old 01-18-2008, 06:33 PM   #2418
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No, but it is a critique of the banality that one can unintentionally invoke by deciding that guitar is more important than music.
If this is your assessment of Carlton as a musician then you obviously don't know much about either music or Carlton.

For the record, I'm no fan of "wanking" either (can't stand to listen to Yngwie and his ilk) but there's a difference between playing a lot of notes just to impress people with your chops vs. playing a lot of notes that make melodic sense or have some sort of melodic design.

It's funny how guitar players are the only musicians who get slammed for playing fast or playing a lot of notes - you never hear anyone accuse John Coltrane of being a "wanker."

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He is a fine player, and has probably made a decent living off of his skill. I have no doubt that he is well accredited.
Seriously, do you even know who Larry Carlton is or who he's recorded and/or performed with?
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I might buy some of what llama is saying for a guy like Al DeMeola, whom I've always felt was needlessly infatuated with speed and flash, but Larry Carlton is so much more than that ... to marginalize him like you're trying to do llama is like summing up Paul McCartney's career by saying, "yes, he's a very good bass player."

LABF - didn't Carlton play lead on Steely Dan's "Reelin' in the Years"? Probably a bit too formulaic for your taste, but I always loved that solo.

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I might buy some of what llama is saying for a guy like Al DeMeola, whom I've always felt was needlessly infatuated with speed and flash, but Larry Carlton is so much more than that ... to marginalize him like you're trying to do llama is like summing up Paul McCartney's career by saying, "yes, he's a very good bass player."

LABF - didn't Carlton play lead on Steely Dan's "Reelin' in the Years"? Probably a bit too formulaic for your taste, but I always loved that solo.
I thought that was Becker....but I must confess that while I like a lot of Steely Dan (practically all up to the reformation) keeping track of the session guys, from Toto to the usual L.A. studio rats like Skunk and his ilk, is not something that ever interested me in particular.

I will go on record as saying that nothing was more of a drag than playing with the "uber-guitarist" ..the guys who are much more interested in being challenged with complex scales and time sigs than actually having any fun, sneering at anything that doesn't match their "level of musicanship". The constant demand of perfection may be the way of it in the session world but in a band enviroment, nothing sucks the life and fun out of it all quicker than someone like that. Give me an inspired amateur any day of the week instead.
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Thank you for these Inferno....that is some really cool stuff. I'm very impressed with it
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I might buy some of what llama is saying for a guy like Al DeMeola, whom I've always felt was needlessly infatuated with speed and flash, but Larry Carlton is so much more than that ... to marginalize him like you're trying to do llama is like summing up Paul McCartney's career by saying, "yes, he's a very good bass player."
Ding ding ding!

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LABF - didn't Carlton play lead on Steely Dan's "Reelin' in the Years"?
No - that was Elliott Randall. http://www.elliott-randall.com/

Carlton's most famous Steely Dan solo is probably "Kid Charlemagne."
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I will go on record as saying that nothing was more of a drag than playing with the "uber-guitarist" ..the guys who are much more interested in being challenged with complex scales and time sigs than actually having any fun...
I prefer those musicians who are dedicated to achieving the highest level of musicianship possible AND having fun.

Nothing wrong with complexity as long as it's sincere and not just an effort to impress, IMO.
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I prefer those musicians who are dedicated to achieving the highest level of musicianship possible AND having fun.

Nothing wrong with complexity as long as it's sincere and not just an effort to impress, IMO.
LABF, you're a professional, so I need your opinion (unless it's different than mine). I was a freshman in college, like 19 years old, and we were jamming with this guy who was a big shot senior or some damn thing (6th year trust fund senior). He wasn't a very good player really, but he lived in a great house with senior guys and had a lotta money and great car (who drives a convertible in Boulder?) and great gear - really really great gear (LP Gold Top, Strat, Mesa Boogie head + Marshall 4x12, Ovation Patriot which was cool at the time anyway).

So, he had this great gear, and was a jazz guy too, and we were at his house listening to Al DeMeola (whom he worshipped), and I said something like "he reminds me of Eddie Van Halen in that speed and flash kinda come first." Well, he lit into me a bit, and actually said something like, "man, you need to buy some Stridex and listen to some decent music, then come back in a year and tell me what you think." Everyone laughed - even my friends! And LABF, there were GIRLS THERE!! AND THEY LAUGHED TOO!!!!

I'm still not over it ... I need to heal from this, LABF.

TELL ME I WAS RIGHT ABOUT AL DEMEOLA!

HEAL ME LABF!

HEAL ME!!

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3 albums have pretty much been in rotation this week.

Low- Things We Lost In The Fire

Took me a while, Low has been on my "need to check out properly" list for years, finally got around to it, and I'm relly smitten with this album especially, wonderful vocal harmonies.

Radiohead- In Rainbows

First Radiohead album since OK Computer I can listen to full length, later albums have had their highlights and some amazing songs (Pyramid song, 2+2=5 to name a few), but a load of senseless wankery too, now the focus seems to be back on writing tunes, Jigsaw Falling Into Place is a winner.

Dark Tranquility- Projector

Thought I was done with metal years back, still listened to some of my old favs (or at least one Paradise Lost), but hadn't encountered a metal band for 5 years that had spawned my interest, man that changed with this band. For a year I've been on a ride around their discography, pretty sure not many around here listen to stuff labelled melodic death metal, but labels are misleading, this is quite simply intense passionate beatiful melodic music. Too bad people can't get past the growling.

Wow, bit of an afternoon rant there, oh well
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