I need legal advice - The Orange Mane

dlow187 · 01-14-2008, 06:59 PM

Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options.

I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

rugbythug · 01-14-2008, 07:01 PM

Pay your ticket at the last second

NYBronco · 01-14-2008, 07:15 PM

You can go to court and hope the officer won't show to explain the violation. They usually throw it out. I wouldn't pay for an attorney. If your wrong face the judgement and chalk it up as alesson learned.

HEAV · 01-14-2008, 07:18 PM

So you where speeding in a school zone during school hours...

Lawyer? Only if you where pulled over during non-school hours.

But if it was during school hours you are going to have to pay the ticket.

Rohirrim · 01-14-2008, 07:19 PM

Strict liability. You're toast.

Must be the offseason.

broncolife · 01-14-2008, 07:20 PM

Tell them your were practicing for the new Death Race 2000 movie.

Blueflame · 01-14-2008, 07:22 PM

If your driving record is clean, then sometimes you can defer the ticket.... or ask for a mitigation hearing. Then again, by going to court, you might lose enough $$ (due to missing work) that just paying the fine might be simplest. Plus, the fact that it was in a school zone might make them less willing to negotiate....

Spider · 01-14-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dlow187

Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options.

I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

speeding in a school zone = Bad very bad .. get a lawyer .....AND DONT EVER DO IT AGAIN .......

theAPAOps5 · 01-14-2008, 08:00 PM

Double the speed limit in a school zone could be grounds for reckless driving ticket. Thats an 8 pointer. I am sure you are required to show up due to the speed and the zone. If you have a clean record they will often offer you a reduced fine and point total if you pay right there.

I wouldn't recommend a lawyer unless you are facing the loss of your license and losing your job. But what were you doing going 50 in a school zone. Kids are retards and you could have ended up in a lot worse shape. Sorry for the lecture, stepping off my soap box.

Spider · 01-14-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Double the speed limit in a school zone could be grounds for reckless driving ticket. Thats an 8 pointer. I am sure you are required to show up due to the speed and the zone. If you have a clean record they will often offer you a reduced fine and point total if you pay right there.

I wouldn't recommend a lawyer unless you are facing the loss of your license and losing your job. But what were you doing going 50 in a school zone. Kids are retards and you could have ended up in a lot worse shape. Sorry for the lecture, stepping off my soap box.

Yeah School zones is one area I take very seriously , little kid getting ran over by a truck is something no one should ever have to worry about ..I see a school zone ...5-10 mph top speed .. I cant stop fast , I cant swerve to miss ,vey well ..... I need ot be at a speed where I can anchor that pig on the dime

OrangeShadow · 01-14-2008, 08:28 PM

He never actually said that it was during school hours. was it dlow?

Spider · 01-14-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeShadow

He never actually said that it was during school hours. was it dlow?

um he said the normal speed limit is 45 , he got nailed for 50 in a 25 ......sounds like a highschool school zone .......

Jana® · 01-14-2008, 08:48 PM

Depends on if it was during school hours.

TexanBob · 01-14-2008, 09:07 PM

The lawyer will cost as much or more than the fine. Unless you are facing jail/loss of license, I wouldn't contest it. Just pay it, particularly if you knew you were over the speed limit to start with. The "everybody does it" defense doesn't play well with me.

I once sat on a jury where a guy was being prosecuted for speeding. The defense attorney let the defendant get on the stand to refute the cop with the radar gun. The prosecutor was clever.

"You say you were going 30 and you're sure of it. How can you be sure?," asked the prosecutor.

"I know how fast I was going. I've been driving for 30 years," he said.

"So you'd consider yourself an expert on proper driving speed?", she asked.

"Yes, I know how fast I was going," he answered.

"Well," she said, "since the defendant has proclaimed himself an expert in this field, Your Honor, let me introduce into evidence these records of past moving violations on the part of the defendant..."

It's illegal to bring up prior convictions but there are exceptions to the law and this prosecutor set the trap expertly and got the defendant to label himself an expert, thus calling into question his credibility on the subject of safe driving - thus allowing his past convictions to be entered into evidence and making it clear to us jurors that the defendant was fighting the ticket because he'd lose his license if he was found guilty.

We nailed the bastard.

AlphaOmega · 01-14-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dlow187

Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options.

I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

You did the crime! now pay the fine Bub!
Speeding in a school zone then wanting to "get off"!? R U serious!?
Who the heck do you think you are!?

Spider · 01-14-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaOmega

You did the crime! now pay the fine Bub!
Speeding in a school zone then wanting to "get off"!? R U serious!?
Who the heck do you think you are!?

at first I was pissed off myself , untill I picked up the 45 mph zone , tells me it is highschool area , I know still kids , but it isnt like speeding in a elementary school zone , so I cut him some slack . if he is lucky the judge will also

DomCasual · 01-14-2008, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dlow187

Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options.

I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

No offense - but if you were going 50 in a school zone, you deserve whatever you get.

ICON · 01-14-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dlow187

Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options.

I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

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TailgateNut · 01-15-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Double the speed limit in a school zone could be grounds for reckless driving ticket. Thats an 8 pointer. I am sure you are required to show up due to the speed and the zone. If you have a clean record they will often offer you a reduced fine and point total if you pay right there.

I wouldn't recommend a lawyer unless you are facing the loss of your license and losing your job. But what were you doing going 50 in a school zone. Kids are retards and you could have ended up in a lot worse shape. Sorry for the lecture, stepping off my soap box.

Good response. I know in Westminster the fine for ANY speeding or red light infraction in a school zone is minimum $200 plus points. I'd say double the posted limit in a school zone will be considered RECKLESS.

TailgateNut · 01-15-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Spider

um he said the normal speed limit is 45 , he got nailed for 50 in a 25 ......sounds like a highschool school zone .......

BS Spider. School zone speed limits vary depending on location and type of artery/ road.

I know of quite a few which have 45 mph limits during non school hours which go to 25mph during school hours.

He's TOAST!

AZ! · 01-15-2008, 03:43 PM

Take a look at my website, http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/emma72 Can help you at a discounted rate. If your enrolled for more than 15 days legal representation is available at no cost to you. Not only do I market legal insurance,but I use it myself. I got a ticket on the way to the DEN/KC game. Let me know if I can help or if you have any further questions.

Jerry aka AZ!

Spider · 01-15-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TailgateNut

BS Spider. School zone speed limits vary depending on location and type of artery/ road.

I know of quite a few which have 45 mph limits during non school hours which go to 25mph during school hours.

He's TOAST!

I know that , but I was talking about Elem. Schools in that high of a speed zone , even in New York city they try to keep elem . Schools far from main throughfares

Bronx33 · 01-15-2008, 06:01 PM

Just pay it

smalltowngrll · 01-15-2008, 06:21 PM

First ticket in 3 years? You can go to traffic school and have it removed. Otherwise, if you don't have many tickets, you can often times show up to court, say you are sorry, you can't afford the full amount and they will often times reduce it or give you a payment plan. Just depends, though. Most often times they cop has the time set aside and all of those who he wrote tickets to are set up for the same time frame and he has it scheduled for him to be there. Don't necessarily count on him not showing as that doesn't happen often any longer.

Bottom line, if you choose to speed, you choose to get a ticket IF you get caught. A lawyer really can't do anything about it.

Hotrod · 01-15-2008, 06:43 PM

I'd head to Canada if I were you son.

01-14-2008, 06:59 PM	#1
dlow187 Solid Starter Im all about Boats & Hoes! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Denver, Co Posts: 146	I need legal advice Im sorry for posting this here but my internet access is limited & i work 10 - 12 hour days so this is one of my last options. I was pulled over for speeding, going 50mph in a 25mph school zone. The regular speed limit there is 45mph, plus i was going down hill. Anyways i was jus wondering if i should get a lawyer? If you have any other advice please let me know thanks.

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01-14-2008, 07:01 PM	#2
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,788 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	Pay your ticket at the last second

01-14-2008, 07:15 PM	#3
NYBronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,994	You can go to court and hope the officer won't show to explain the violation. They usually throw it out. I wouldn't pay for an attorney. If your wrong face the judgement and chalk it up as alesson learned.

01-14-2008, 07:18 PM	#4
HEAV Ring of Famer It's about the Team Join Date: May 2003 Location: The Ville Posts: 12,077 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	So you where speeding in a school zone during school hours... Lawyer? Only if you where pulled over during non-school hours. But if it was during school hours you are going to have to pay the ticket.

01-14-2008, 07:19 PM	#5
Rohirrim Partisan Human Cannonball Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Twixt Hell & Highwater Posts: 48,842	Strict liability. You're toast. Must be the offseason.

01-14-2008, 07:20 PM	#6
broncolife Master masturbator! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Escondido, CA Posts: 3,395	Tell them your were practicing for the new Death Race 2000 movie.

01-14-2008, 07:22 PM	#7
Blueflame Miss Congeniality Welcome to Peyton's Place Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: in my cups... lol Posts: 33,038 Adopt-a-Bronco: Randy Gradishar	If your driving record is clean, then sometimes you can defer the ticket.... or ask for a mitigation hearing. Then again, by going to court, you might lose enough $$ (due to missing work) that just paying the fine might be simplest. Plus, the fact that it was in a school zone might make them less willing to negotiate....

01-14-2008, 08:00 PM	#9
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 26,058 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Double the speed limit in a school zone could be grounds for reckless driving ticket. Thats an 8 pointer. I am sure you are required to show up due to the speed and the zone. If you have a clean record they will often offer you a reduced fine and point total if you pay right there. I wouldn't recommend a lawyer unless you are facing the loss of your license and losing your job. But what were you doing going 50 in a school zone. Kids are retards and you could have ended up in a lot worse shape. Sorry for the lecture, stepping off my soap box.

01-14-2008, 08:28 PM	#11
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	He never actually said that it was during school hours. was it dlow?

01-14-2008, 08:48 PM	#13
Jana® World's cutest Bronco Fan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Anywhere but here! Posts: 1,399 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ed McCaffrey ;)	Depends on if it was during school hours.

01-14-2008, 09:07 PM	#14
TexanBob Don't Argue With Me You Know I'm Right Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,023 Adopt-a-Bronco: Darris Nash	The lawyer will cost as much or more than the fine. Unless you are facing jail/loss of license, I wouldn't contest it. Just pay it, particularly if you knew you were over the speed limit to start with. The "everybody does it" defense doesn't play well with me. I once sat on a jury where a guy was being prosecuted for speeding. The defense attorney let the defendant get on the stand to refute the cop with the radar gun. The prosecutor was clever. "You say you were going 30 and you're sure of it. How can you be sure?," asked the prosecutor. "I know how fast I was going. I've been driving for 30 years," he said. "So you'd consider yourself an expert on proper driving speed?", she asked. "Yes, I know how fast I was going," he answered. "Well," she said, "since the defendant has proclaimed himself an expert in this field, Your Honor, let me introduce into evidence these records of past moving violations on the part of the defendant..." It's illegal to bring up prior convictions but there are exceptions to the law and this prosecutor set the trap expertly and got the defendant to label himself an expert, thus calling into question his credibility on the subject of safe driving - thus allowing his past convictions to be entered into evidence and making it clear to us jurors that the defendant was fighting the ticket because he'd lose his license if he was found guilty. We nailed the bastard.

01-15-2008, 03:43 PM	#21
AZ! El Paso Fan Club BRONCOTIME BABY! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: EL PASO, TEXAS Posts: 81	Take a look at my website, http://www.prepaidlegal.com/hub/emma72 Can help you at a discounted rate. If your enrolled for more than 15 days legal representation is available at no cost to you. Not only do I market legal insurance,but I use it myself. I got a ticket on the way to the DEN/KC game. Let me know if I can help or if you have any further questions. Jerry aka AZ!

01-15-2008, 06:01 PM	#23
Bronx33 lets go partner Rumpson Rocks Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 41,221 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Just pay it

01-15-2008, 06:21 PM	#24
smalltowngrll Orange Blue Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 8,038 Adopt-a-Bronco: dortoh	First ticket in 3 years? You can go to traffic school and have it removed. Otherwise, if you don't have many tickets, you can often times show up to court, say you are sorry, you can't afford the full amount and they will often times reduce it or give you a payment plan. Just depends, though. Most often times they cop has the time set aside and all of those who he wrote tickets to are set up for the same time frame and he has it scheduled for him to be there. Don't necessarily count on him not showing as that doesn't happen often any longer. Bottom line, if you choose to speed, you choose to get a ticket IF you get caught. A lawyer really can't do anything about it.

01-15-2008, 06:43 PM	#25
Hotrod Self Appointed Expert aka Dortoh Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 25,136 Adopt-a-Bronco: Miss I	I'd head to Canada if I were you son.