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Three Lombardis
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Typical east coast media bias bull****. Rollins pulled off quite the post season triple crown: He was handed Tulo's Gold Glove, he was handed Hanley's Silver Slugger and he was handed Holliday's MVP. |
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Fire Vance Joseph
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![]() Wow..you guys still care abt that sport...
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Offseason sucks...
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Holliday v. Rollins is a valid argument for either side. I'm sure the standard logic behind picking Rollins over Holliday is that Holliday had the benefit of Coors (most sports reporters seem unaware that Philly is the #2 offensive ballpark in baseball) and that he's a corner OF with only ok fielding skills. Rollins isn't nearly the hitter, but he was still a premier hitter in the NL and he was arguably the best baserunner and defensive SS in all of baseball. His team also won their division while the Rockies needed a hot September just to get a playoff game with SD. I think the last fact is particularly important because as I said, ballots need to be in by the end of the regular season. So all those writters who don't believe in giving MVP to a player on a non-playoff team wasn't assured that Holliday met such criteria. I think this was a big blow against him as well. Braun getting ROY over Tulo is stupid though. Thats a very good reason for b****ing. He hit marginally better but played in 40 less games and was a defensive butcher while Tulo is a future GG. |
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im not as disapointed because i could see all this crap coming a mile away. no gold glovers no roy and now the trifecta..no mvp. we get screwed annualy by the football hof voters,why should baseball be and different? <!-- / message --><!-- sig --> |
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![]() Shouldn't the MVP have gone to Willie Randolph and the Mets for blowing that size of lead in the division and giving Rollins and the Phills the division?
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#33 |
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![]() Rollins is this year's Dirk Nowitzki
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![]() Really? If it is a figment of our imagination why did the Rockies (best percentage wise defense in the HISTORY of the game not have a single gold golver? Tulo had defensively the best ever rookie season as a SS, ELEVEN errors, he was the opening day starter. Jimmy Rollins, David Wright and Derek ****ing Lee... well lets see thats New York, Philadelphia and Chicago, those are much bigger markets and there is a bias. In my opinion the Rockies could have had up to 3 Gold Glovers, Atkins, Tulo and Helton, but I guess having the best fielding team ever doesn't count for much.
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Offseason sucks...
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![]() he said it's not a figment but you're exaclty right.
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Braun over Tulo was ridiculous, but to say Braun hit marginally better is inaccurate. Braun was a beast at the plate and he stole bases, too. This should have been counterbalanced by Tulo's Gold Glove deserving defense, though. You have to go back to Butch Hobson's rookie season to find a third baseman who played defense as poorly as Braun. You have to go back to about 1920 to find anybody worse. |
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DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE!
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![]() Rollins plays at a prime defensive postion (and plays it well), Holliday plays LF, where slow infields go to die....
Really folks, Tutz, yes the Rockies were robbed there but this was pretty much the right call. |
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#38 |
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![]() If you can't even get the names (or nicknames) of the Rockies players right, how can you say who's qualified to win what?
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![]() That blows. Read the stats again. Rollins looked like duck soup in the Phillies series.....
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DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE!
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DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE!
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#45 |
DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE!
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#46 |
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![]() The most rediculous thing about all of this is Brian Braun was voted ROY because of his offensive stats alone. Yet Jimmy Rollins was voted MVP because he was a better "all around" player than Matt Holliday. Talk about hipocracy and a double standard of the highest order.
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So there!!!! |
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#49 |
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![]() Wow.... So bitter. Guess I would be wasting time posting here since it will obviously fall on deaf ears.
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DOOONNNTTTTT CAAARRREEE!
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