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Kid A · 10-16-2007, 01:08 PM

haha, guilty as charged. I really have tried to be something of an optimist throughout this whole regime change. It probably was because I was glad to see Solich go, and I thought a new direction was good. The top 10 recruiting classes were also very appealing after the Solich years. We even played some top teams tough--I mean we had Texas beat in 06 if we don't fumble.

I honestly don't hate Callahan much as a person. Yeah he has done some idiotic things--throat slash, f'in hillbillies (even if it is true)--but I do think he believed in what he was doing and wanted to lead this program for a long time. He must be charming as hell, because he gets the recruits to buy in. The problem is I don't know if they keep buying into it once they start playing. He has lost this team, in a way eerily similar to what happened his second year in Oakland.

The other nail in the coffin is that Solich got fired not because he went 9-3, but because those 3 losses were ugly blowouts. Nebraska can accept losing to Texas, Missouri, and K-State occasionally, but we can't accept getting blown out regularly. Cally has managed to be even worse in this aspect, getting blown out of the water by teams (KU? Oklahoma State twice? Missouri twice?) with lesser or equal talent as us.

But, yeah, the hardest part of this was that everyone was starting to get ready to come around and embrace him and his new direction. He got an extension, he had almost exclusively his recruits playing and even the media was starting to hype our chances to return to prominence if we gave USC a game. Well, we all know how that played out. And the rest, as they say, is history. Rebuilding sucks, but hopefully we learned something from our mistakes. At the very least, I'm a much more cynical fan. And I appreciate Osborne more than ever.

Crushaholic · 10-16-2007, 03:52 PM

Hmmm...I thought Pederson's firing was a prelude to Callahan's firing. Why did Pederson (and not Callahan) become the scapegoat for Nebraska's poor start? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Help an outsider out...

*edit* I guess Kid A answered my question. Solich's firing was pretty moronic, but I still got the impression that Pederson felt heat from the Nebraska boosters to make that move...

DBroncos4life · 10-16-2007, 04:32 PM

We will still win the North

Evenrude · 10-16-2007, 04:49 PM

Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html

Three scenarios I see at the moment:

Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with

Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with

Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck.

The plot thickins.....lol

ColoradoBuff · 10-16-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

We will still win the North

Missouri anyone? K-State? or perhaps even Kansas? or could it be CU?

ColoradoBuff · 10-16-2007, 05:05 PM

[QUOTE=Evenrude;1753434]Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html

Three scenarios I see at the moment:

Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with
There are quite a few good, young DC's out there. Not a bad idea.
Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with
If Miles goes to Michigan, which with Michigan winning now looks less likely now, the LSU job is Pelini's if he wants it.
Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck.
Where is Turner Gill coaching? Buffalo? Temple?

The plot thickins.....lol

Evenrude · 10-16-2007, 05:19 PM

[QUOTE=Hawk's Boys;1753449]

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Originally Posted by Evenrude

Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html

Three scenarios I see at the moment:

Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with
There are quite a few good, young DC's out there. Not a bad idea.
Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with
If Miles goes to Michigan, which with Michigan winning now looks less likely now, the LSU job is Pelini's if he wants it.
Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck.
Where is Turner Gill coaching? Buffalo? Temple?

The plot thickins.....lol

Yeah, if Miles leaves then Pelini will probably stay in LSU on comfort factor alone, but I am sure NU would be competitive dollars wise. And this would help explain the Pederson firing, as Pelini and Pederson never liked each other.

Turner Gill is coaching Buffalo and beat Solich's Ohio team pretty soundly last week.

Another name out there is Jim Leavitt.....

Kid A · 10-16-2007, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evenrude

Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html

Three scenarios I see at the moment:

Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with

Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with

Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck.

The plot thickins.....lol

I agree completely. I DO NOT want us making this a reunion of favorite husker players and coaches from the 80s and 90s. Also, as trigger happy as I may have sounded in some previous posts, I think Osborne should and will seriously consider bringing Bill back. It is not a done deal that they are all getting fired. If Osborne believes that Bill has the ability to lead this team where it needs to go, albiet with a new defensive staff, then that would be the most reasonable solution. Bill's just going to have to show something these next five weeks to make this a possibility.

DBroncos4life · 10-17-2007, 06:40 AM

I think you guys are counting out Gill way to fast. He runs the a college WCO. He isn't a option player anymore. Plus if you take a look at what he has done so far its not all that bad. 3-4 in the first 7 games. Yeah that sucks but....

06-2 wins total
05-1 win
04-2 wins
03-1 win
02-1 win

I would agree that there are better coaches out there but I think Gill has as much of a chance to improve us as anyone at this point. Its clear that he can get more out of lesser talent.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-17-2007, 02:46 PM

Any truth to the rumor that Blaine Gabbert will be visiting Columbia this weekend?

Kid A · 10-17-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Any truth to the rumor that Blaine Gabbert will be visiting Columbia this weekend?

Yep, he could be a goner. It would suck if he goes to a division rival, but if he wanted to go here for Callahan that doesn't look like it's going to happen, because:

hot rumor on multiple boards, with posters claiming credible sources- Callahan out as soon as tonight, along with several staff members (Coz, Elmo, etc.) and Charlie McBride brought in as interim HC. Watson may stay as OC while Bill Busch stays as DC. Similar rumors have been floating around the last couple days. This would be a crazy (and quick) turn of events if true.

Honestly, I'm starting to really feel bad for the players. This has to be confusing and stressful as hell.

Kid A · 10-17-2007, 03:50 PM

well, McBride has gone on the radio and denied it completely. These internet rumors are so retarded. I'm not believing (or reporting) anything until it is official.

BMF Bronco · 10-17-2007, 04:37 PM

oh the lovely quagmire of NU football.

Evenrude · 10-19-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

Hey everyone knows we are a volleyball school.

Yep.

http://macgsworld.blogspot.com/2007/...o-huskers.html

but Keller is a stud.

SoonerBronco · 10-19-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BMF Bronco

oh the lovely quagmire of NU football.

Giggidy, Giggidy!

Kid A · 10-20-2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kid A

I think Osborne should and will seriously consider bringing Bill back...Bill's just going to have to show something these next five weeks to make this a possibility.

Um, so scratch that. I think today removed any chance of him being back. Probably our most winnable game, and, well you saw the score.

KCbroncos · 10-22-2007, 12:10 PM

Little birdy has told me after the NU/CU game they will name Pelini head coach, Rathman Off. Coor, Mike Stoops(if fired at Ariz) or Mike Sanders as Def. Coor, and Scott Frost as DB coach.

Kid A · 10-22-2007, 01:24 PM

I highly doubt that anyone could know for sure that Pelini will 1) take the job or 2) put together that staff. If it were to happen, however, I'd be more than happy. Pelini and Mike Stoops together would be great on the defensive side. Mike Sanders would be a fan favorite pick as well.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-23-2007, 09:21 PM

I'm curious what you guys think about what's going on with your recruiting class now?

Gabbert's father said they've canceled their official to Lincoln and won't be coming. Gray looks like he's going to South Bend. Mohler and Givens are both visiting Boulder and looking around at others, and I'm sure there are more that I don't know about.

Kid A · 10-23-2007, 11:20 PM

It's going to fall apart. That's about all there is to it. Sad to see happen (especially Gabbert and Gray) but what can you do. Gray said in an interview he was committed more to the staff than the university. And there is no question this staff HAS to go. We've had really good recruiting classes every year Cally has been here, and where are we now? Probably the worst season in the last half century of Nebraska football. We have to willing to sacrifice a top 20 recruiting class this year to get a staff that can competently coach in place.

I do hope that whoever comes in can salvage at least some of the class, though. Especially some of our highly touted o-linemen. I'd also like to think if a respected defensive coach, like Pelini, comes in we might steal a top notch defensive recruit or two late in the game.

Pezman · 10-23-2007, 11:27 PM

Getting that Neuheisel vibe while reading about your recruits Kid... Buffs fans know that horrible feeling with lost recruits. Ugh.

Hercules Rockefeller · 10-23-2007, 11:42 PM

Corey Redding, Troy Polamalu, and Logan Mankins are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. IIRC, Redding was the top defensive player in the country that year. Not a fun time for any team that happens to.

So with Gabbart leaving, does anyone's opinion of him change? I don't know how anyone deserves a 5 star rating when he gets benched during his senior year, regardless of their ceiling.

BMF Bronco · 10-24-2007, 12:21 AM

dude the #8 RB in the nation just uncommitted to NU, we're ****ed. and with can-a-spam (yes I brought it back out) b****ing to the national media about the situation, yeah we're ****ed.

Kid A · 10-24-2007, 11:58 AM

actually some good recruiting news. The top JUCO prospect in the nation, defensive end Simi Kuli just committed to Nebraska...after talking to Tom Osborne. Kuli has said it doesn't matter to him who the coaching staff is, as long as he plays at Nebraska.

He might be the exception to the rule, but it is good to hear some people thinking like that. It will be important to get kids who are committed to the university as a whole, not just a west coast offense coach who might help their NFL chances.

BMF Bronco · 10-24-2007, 12:00 PM

Great news!

10-16-2007, 03:52 PM	#1777
Crushaholic Armchair Poster Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Topeka, KS Posts: 22,039	Hmmm...I thought Pederson's firing was a prelude to Callahan's firing. Why did Pederson (and not Callahan) become the scapegoat for Nebraska's poor start? It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Help an outsider out... edit I guess Kid A answered my question. Solich's firing was pretty moronic, but I still got the impression that Pederson felt heat from the Nebraska boosters to make that move... Last edited by Crushaholic; 10-16-2007 at 03:55 PM..

10-16-2007, 05:05 PM	#1781
ColoradoBuff Ring of Famer In Manning We Trust...... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Where the buffalo roam.... Posts: 2,002 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brian Dawkins	[QUOTE=Evenrude;1753434]Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html Three scenarios I see at the moment: Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with There are quite a few good, young DC's out there. Not a bad idea. Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with If Miles goes to Michigan, which with Michigan winning now looks less likely now, the LSU job is Pelini's if he wants it. Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck. Where is Turner Gill coaching? Buffalo? Temple? The plot thickins.....lol Last edited by ColoradoBuff; 10-16-2007 at 05:08 PM..

10-23-2007, 11:27 PM	#1796
Pezman Livin the dream Andy did you hear about this one? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Smoggy SoCal Posts: 9,833 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Getting that Neuheisel vibe while reading about your recruits Kid... Buffs fans know that horrible feeling with lost recruits. Ugh. __________________ Sitting on a beach, earning 20%

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10-16-2007, 01:08 PM	#1776
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,585	haha, guilty as charged. I really have tried to be something of an optimist throughout this whole regime change. It probably was because I was glad to see Solich go, and I thought a new direction was good. The top 10 recruiting classes were also very appealing after the Solich years. We even played some top teams tough--I mean we had Texas beat in 06 if we don't fumble. I honestly don't hate Callahan much as a person. Yeah he has done some idiotic things--throat slash, f'in hillbillies (even if it is true)--but I do think he believed in what he was doing and wanted to lead this program for a long time. He must be charming as hell, because he gets the recruits to buy in. The problem is I don't know if they keep buying into it once they start playing. He has lost this team, in a way eerily similar to what happened his second year in Oakland. The other nail in the coffin is that Solich got fired not because he went 9-3, but because those 3 losses were ugly blowouts. Nebraska can accept losing to Texas, Missouri, and K-State occasionally, but we can't accept getting blown out regularly. Cally has managed to be even worse in this aspect, getting blown out of the water by teams (KU? Oklahoma State twice? Missouri twice?) with lesser or equal talent as us. But, yeah, the hardest part of this was that everyone was starting to get ready to come around and embrace him and his new direction. He got an extension, he had almost exclusively his recruits playing and even the media was starting to hype our chances to return to prominence if we gave USC a game. Well, we all know how that played out. And the rest, as they say, is history. Rebuilding sucks, but hopefully we learned something from our mistakes. At the very least, I'm a much more cynical fan. And I appreciate Osborne more than ever.

10-16-2007, 04:32 PM	#1778
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,522	We will still win the North

10-16-2007, 04:49 PM	#1779
Evenrude Ring of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 2,276 Adopt-a-Bronco: Joe Mays	Looks like the Osborne speculation is coming true. http://www.ketv.com/sports/14353545/detail.html Three scenarios I see at the moment: Callys stays with a new (younger, more energetic) Defensive Coordinator - I'm ok with Cally leaves and they bring in someone like Pelini or Mike Leach - I'm ok with Cally leaves and we bring in Turner Gill and a staff of ex-huskers - This would suck. The plot thickins.....lol

10-17-2007, 06:40 AM	#1784
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,522	I think you guys are counting out Gill way to fast. He runs the a college WCO. He isn't a option player anymore. Plus if you take a look at what he has done so far its not all that bad. 3-4 in the first 7 games. Yeah that sucks but.... 06-2 wins total 05-1 win 04-2 wins 03-1 win 02-1 win I would agree that there are better coaches out there but I think Gill has as much of a chance to improve us as anyone at this point. Its clear that he can get more out of lesser talent.

10-17-2007, 02:46 PM	#1785
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Any truth to the rumor that Blaine Gabbert will be visiting Columbia this weekend?

10-17-2007, 03:50 PM	#1787
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,585	well, McBride has gone on the radio and denied it completely. These internet rumors are so retarded. I'm not believing (or reporting) anything until it is official.

10-17-2007, 04:37 PM	#1788
BMF Bronco Offseason sucks... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 11,724 Adopt-a-Bronco: ME	oh the lovely quagmire of NU football.

10-22-2007, 12:10 PM	#1792
KCbroncos Solid Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Shawnee, KS (Burb of Marienthal, KS) Posts: 154	Little birdy has told me after the NU/CU game they will name Pelini head coach, Rathman Off. Coor, Mike Stoops(if fired at Ariz) or Mike Sanders as Def. Coor, and Scott Frost as DB coach.

10-22-2007, 01:24 PM	#1793
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,585	I highly doubt that anyone could know for sure that Pelini will 1) take the job or 2) put together that staff. If it were to happen, however, I'd be more than happy. Pelini and Mike Stoops together would be great on the defensive side. Mike Sanders would be a fan favorite pick as well.

10-23-2007, 09:21 PM	#1794
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	I'm curious what you guys think about what's going on with your recruiting class now? Gabbert's father said they've canceled their official to Lincoln and won't be coming. Gray looks like he's going to South Bend. Mohler and Givens are both visiting Boulder and looking around at others, and I'm sure there are more that I don't know about.

10-23-2007, 11:20 PM	#1795
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,585	It's going to fall apart. That's about all there is to it. Sad to see happen (especially Gabbert and Gray) but what can you do. Gray said in an interview he was committed more to the staff than the university. And there is no question this staff HAS to go. We've had really good recruiting classes every year Cally has been here, and where are we now? Probably the worst season in the last half century of Nebraska football. We have to willing to sacrifice a top 20 recruiting class this year to get a staff that can competently coach in place. I do hope that whoever comes in can salvage at least some of the class, though. Especially some of our highly touted o-linemen. I'd also like to think if a respected defensive coach, like Pelini, comes in we might steal a top notch defensive recruit or two late in the game.

10-23-2007, 11:42 PM	#1797
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,005 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Corey Redding, Troy Polamalu, and Logan Mankins are just a few I can think of off the top of my head. IIRC, Redding was the top defensive player in the country that year. Not a fun time for any team that happens to. So with Gabbart leaving, does anyone's opinion of him change? I don't know how anyone deserves a 5 star rating when he gets benched during his senior year, regardless of their ceiling.

10-24-2007, 12:21 AM	#1798
BMF Bronco Offseason sucks... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 11,724 Adopt-a-Bronco: ME	dude the #8 RB in the nation just uncommitted to NU, we're **ed. and with can-a-spam (yes I brought it back out) bing to the national media about the situation, yeah we're **ed.

10-24-2007, 11:58 AM	#1799
Kid A Ring of Famer I don't need love. I just need wins Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 4,585	actually some good recruiting news. The top JUCO prospect in the nation, defensive end Simi Kuli just committed to Nebraska...after talking to Tom Osborne. Kuli has said it doesn't matter to him who the coaching staff is, as long as he plays at Nebraska. He might be the exception to the rule, but it is good to hear some people thinking like that. It will be important to get kids who are committed to the university as a whole, not just a west coast offense coach who might help their NFL chances.

10-24-2007, 12:00 PM	#1800
BMF Bronco Offseason sucks... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 11,724 Adopt-a-Bronco: ME	Great news!