All time NBA draft thread

[JCMElway]

All right, Ludo takes a nice looooong defenser to come off the bench in Tayshaun. Well done!

VJ82 is on the clock. He has until 2 AM CST to select.

Azbroncfan may make one selection at any time.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

Youcan and Angryllama may make one selection at any time.

[epicSocialism4tw]

I'm taking a swing here with:

Anfernee Hardaway.

[azbroncfan]

Rudy T to fill the coaching vacancy.

[JCMElway]

OK, the last picks here!

Eddie Mac and Youcandoit are on the clock. He has until 2 PM CST to select.

Eddie Mac and VJ82 may make one selection at any time.

Youcandoit may make two selections at any time.

Phibacka may make his remaining three selections at any time.

[JCMElway]

Ok, I'll check back here in a day or so, see if anyone has got there picks in yet....

[Rshackleford]

I wouldn't have picked Stephon Marbury if I had known he was going to defend Michael Vick and endorse dogfighting. What a knob.

[JCMElway]

Originally Posted by Rshackleford

I wouldn't have picked Stephon Marbury if I had known he was going to defend Michael Vick and endorse dogfighting. What a knob.

You can drop him and pick up someone else.

[Rshackleford]

no, that's cool, it wouldn't be fair to everyone else. I was just venting

[eddie mac]

With my last pick I take Antoine Walker F Boston/Dallas/Atlanta/Miami

The Fighting Irish

F Julius Erving
F Elvin Hayes
C George Mikan
G Oscar Robertson
G Earl Monroe
F/C Dolph Schayes
C Walt Bellamy
G Mark Price
F Chet Walker
G KC Jones
F/G Tom Heinsohn
F Antoine Walker
HC John Kundla

[JCMElway]

Hey all, I'm going to get the evaluation system going shortly. Watch for the PM.....

[RhymesayersDU]

Runnin' & Gunnin':

Starting 5:
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Wes Unseld
SF - Adrian Dantley
SG - Clyde Drexler
PG - LeBron James

Bench:
C - Marcus Camby
PF - Spencer Haywood
F/G - Michael Cooper
SG - Sam Jones
PG - Calvin Murphy
F - Shawn Marion
PG - Gail Goodrich

COACH: Jack Ramsay

[epicSocialism4tw]

Eddie Mac...you should be ashamed for selecting the Truffle Shuffle.

[Master___Pain]

So....is thing thing finally over?

[JCMElway]

Sorry I've been so busy everyone. It's time for the evaluation phase. Everyone will rate all the other teams in the league except their own on a scale of 15 to 1. The best team gets a 15. The worst gets 1. I don't believe everyone will vote, so I'll make an average from everyone who has voted. I'll post everyone's roster tonight.

JCM

[epicSocialism4tw]

Thanks for the work on this thread, JCM. Good job.

[Master___Pain]

Originally Posted by JCMElway

Sorry I've been so busy everyone. It's time for the evaluation phase. Everyone will rate all the other teams in the league except their own on a scale of 15 to 1. The best team gets a 15. The worst gets 1. I don't believe everyone will vote, so I'll make an average from everyone who has voted. I'll post everyone's roster tonight.

JCM

So, what exactly is the criteria? Or is this pretty much subjective? Are we voting in this thread or via PM?

[JCMElway]

You can put your votes up here or via PM. Your choice. And yes, it's pretty subjective. Just what teams you think would be the best or the worst of the lot.

[JCMElway]

Hey, I just went into the member contact area to see if Freak6 ever came back, but he's NOT EVEN LISTED THERE. It's like he never existed at all.......

Remind me not to Make Taco mad.......

[JCMElway]

Here are the teams in draft order. My team can be seen in my sig. Also folks, you may take a post to present your team and say why you think they are a great squad. We'll see how many people we can get to vote.

Killericon

Starting 5:
C - Ben Wallace
PF - Nate Thurmond
SF - Dave Debusschere
SG - Michael Jordan
PG - Jason Kidd

Bench:
PG: TJ Ford
SG: Allan Houston
PF: Paul Azirin
PF: Carlos Boozer
SF: George Yardley
C: Mark Eaton


COACH: Pat Riley


GSReylea

Starting 5:
C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Dave Cowens
SF - Scottie Pippen
SG - Pete Maravich
PG - Nate Archibald

Bench:
G: Mookie Blaylock
G: Jerry Stackhouse
F: Billy Cunningham
F: Drazen Petrovich
F: Rasheed Wallace
C: Bill Laimbeer
C: Jack Sikma

COACH: Dean Smith


Master Pain

Starting 5:
C - Dan Issel
PF - Dominique Wilkins
SF - Artis Gilmore
SG - Reggie Miller
PG - Magic Johnson

Bench:
G: Eddie Jones
G: Fat Lever
F: Glen Rice
F: David Thompson
F/C: Larry Nance
F/C: Otis Thorpe
C: Tom Chambers

COACH: Red Holzman


Man-Goblin

Starting 5:
C - Bob Lanier
PF - Kevin McHale
SF - Rick Barry
SG - Jerry West
PG - Dennis Johnson

Bench:
G: Vinnie Johnson
G: Chris Paul
G/F: Walter Davis
F: Kiki Vandeweghe
F/C: Shawn Kemp
C: Joe Barry Carroll
C: Brad Miller

COACH: Chuck Daly


R Shackleford

Starting 5:
C - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
PF - Charles Barkley
SF - Alex English
SG - Joe Dumars
PG - Kevin Johnson

Bench:
G: Tony Parker
G: Stephon Marbury
F: Danny Manning
F: Derrick Coleman
F: Michael Finley
C: Brad Daugherty
C: Rik Smits


Coach:Larry Brown

Runnin' & Gunnin':

Starting 5:
C - Shaquille O'Neal
PF - Wes Unseld
SF - Adrian Dantley
SG - Clyde Drexler
PG - LeBron James

Bench:
C - Marcus Camby
PF - Spencer Haywood
F/G - Michael Cooper
SG - Sam Jones
PG - Calvin Murphy
F - Shawn Marion
PG - Gail Goodrich

COACH: Jack Ramsay


Freak6

Starting 5:
C - Yao Ming
PF - Bob McAdoo
SF - Larry Bird
SG - Kobe Bryant
PG - Allen Iverson

Bench:
G: Chauncey Billups
G: Rod Strickland
G/F: Shareef Abdur Raheem
F: Josh Smith
F: Paul Pierce
F: Elton Brand
C: Robert Parrish

COACH: Doug Moe


Phibacka

Starting 5:
C - Tim Duncan
PF - Tracy McGrady
SF - James Worth
SG - Dave Bing
PG - Dwayne Wade

Bench:
G: Baron Davis
G: Mark Jackson
F/C: Jermaine O'Neal
C: Aryvidas Sabonis
Phibacka may make three selections at any time

COACH: Don Nelson


Angryllama

Starting 5:
C - Bill Russell
PF - Kevin Garnett
SF - Dirk Novitzky
SG - Bill Sharman
PG - Bob Cousy

Bench:
G: Rolando Blackmon
G: Anfernee Hardaway
G: Kevin Porter
F: Mark Aguirre
F/C: George McGinnis
C: Willis Reed
C: Mel Daniels

COACH: Red Auerbach


JCMElway

Starting 5:
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
PF - Jerry Lucas
SF - Bob Petit
SG - Gilbert Arenas
PG - John Stockton

Bench:
PG/SG: Hal Greer
SG: Hank Luisetti
PG: Don Buse
SG/SF: Bobby Jones
SG/SF/PF/C: Gus "Honeycomb" Johnson
SF/PF: Bob Horry
C: Elmore Smith

COACH: Greg Popovitch

BobHorry5

Starting 5:
C - Moses Malone
PF - Bill Walton
SF - Ray Allen
SG - John Havlicek
PG - Moe Cheeks

Bench:
G: Steve Kerr
G/F: Chuck Person
F: Dale Ellis
F/C: Charles Oakley
F/C: Lamar Odom
C: Dikembe Mutumbo
C: Vlade Divac

COACH: Avery Johnson

AZBroncfan

Starting 5:
C - David Robinson
PF - Karl Malone
SF - Chris Mullin
SG - Mitch Richmond
PG - Gary Payton

Bench:
G: Tim Hardaway
G: Sidney Moncrief
G/F: Jerry Sloan
G/F: Detlef Schrempf
F/C: Chris Webber
C/F: Ralph Sampson
C: Dwight Howard

COACH: Rudy Tomjonavich


Ludo

Starting 5:
C - Greg Oden
PF - Amare Stoudemire
SF - Carmello Anthony
SG - Walt Frazier
PG - Steve Nash

Bench:
G: Jeff Hornacek
G: Sam Cassel
G: Leandro Barbosa
G: Elliot "Socks" Perry
G/F: Paul Westphal
F: Tayshaun Prince
F/C: Connie Hawkins

COACH: Mike Shanahan


VanceJohnson82

Starting 5:
C - Alonzo Morning
PF - George Gervin
SF - Grant Hill
SG - Bernard King
PG - Isiah Thomas

Bench:
G: Maurice Lucas
G: World B. Free
G: Mugsy Bogues
G: John Starks
F: Ron Artest
F: Dennis Rodman
C: Emeka Okafor

COACH: Paul Silas


Eddie Mac

Starting 5:
C - George Mikan
PF - Elvin Hayes
SF - Julius Erving
SG - Oscar Robertson
PG - Earl Monroe

Bench:
G: Mark Price
G: KC Jones
G/F: Chet Walker
F/G: Tom Heinsohn
F: Antoine Walker
F/C: Dolph Schayes
C: Walt Bellamy

COACH: John Kundla


Youcandoit

Starting 5:
C - Patrick Ewing
PF - Horace Grant
SF - Elgin Baylor
SG - Vince Carter
PG - Lenny Wilkens

Bench:
G: Manu Ginobli
G: Bruce Bowen
F: Chris Bosh
F: Buck Williams
F: Boris Diaw
Youcandoit may select two additional players at any time

COACH: Phil Jackson

[Killericon]

Alright, I'll have my rankings up in a bit.

[eddie mac]

Originally Posted by angryllama

Eddie Mac...you should be ashamed for selecting the Truffle Shuffle.

Never even heard of him

You have to remember that my NBA knowledge doesn't go beyond NBA.com's 50 greatest ever players.

[vancejohnson82]

i need a coach that can handle these bad attitudes

PAUL SILAS

[JCMElway]

Well done VJ82, well done.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Here's another way to look at it.

Each of these teams are in a tournament for the all-time great championship. Based on coach, system, and players, how does it play out? Who wins the championship? Why do they win it? Who wins tournament MVP (their team has to win)? Who wins other awards?

Here's how I think that it plays out...

Divided into two conferences and seeded according to strength, here are my scenarios.

Seeding:

West:
1. Eddie Mac
2. AZBroncofan
3. Man- Goblin
4. JCM
5. RShack
6. Phibacka
7. VanceJohnson
8. Bye

East:
1. Freak6
2. Biochemnerd Parade
3. Master Pain
4. GSRelyea
5. Runnin' Gunnin'
6. BobHorry
7. Ludo
8. Youcandoit

[JCMElway]

Wow, this was REALLY hard. There is so much talent on every roster. I believe that teams 15-9 are extremelly close. To seperate these teams was to really split hairs and nitpick at the slightest deficiency. Everyone did great work.

My rankings:

15. Angryllama -- A well balanced roster with scorers, defenders, 3 point shooters, and distributors all set to accomplish their task. Best coach of all time certainly helps. Well thought out.

14. Killericon -- Jordan automatically make this team top 5, but I'm not a believer in Houson or Ford off the bench. Good coach. A well planned team.

13. AZBroncfan -- Another team with great balance. My only complaint is Ritchmond as a starter on an all time team. (I'm really splitting hairs here, but had to find some reason to rank them one above or below the other.)

12. GSReylea -- Nice front court and good scorers. Good balance of offense and defense. Dean Smith never coached in the pros. If I were to take a coach from the college ranks I would have taken Wooden.

11. Rhymesayers -- I'm not sold on LeBron as a all time great yet, but this team is top 5 for sure. Also, this team does not have a PG who really distributes the ball.

10. Master Pain -- Issel will get abused at C. Apart from Gilmore who will play defense? You'll score a ton though. MP and BobHorry5 would have some manaiacal games.

9. BobHorry5-- This team will light it up from the outside, but where's the defense?

8. R Shack -- Great starting 5, but I'm not a believer in Marbury, Manning, Coleman, or Finley as all time greats.

7. VanceJohnson82 -- I like this team, but Hill never fulfilled his potential, there are better C in this league besides Mourning, and WAY too many attitudes to keep team cohesion, Paul Silas or no Paul Silas.

6. Man-Goblin -- I like Barry and West. Microwave is a great 6th man.

5. Eddie Mac -- Some decent scorers, but Mikan may get eaten up by bigger middle men. And not a lot of D on this team.

4. Youcandoit -- Missing two roster players hurts depth.

3. Freak6 -- No defense!

2. Phibacka -- Decent starting 5, but missing 3 players on the bench will hurt.

1. Ludo -- Too many guards and not enough big men on the bench, Oden will get abused by the all time great centers, and the other coachs will be able to victimize Shanny's inexperience