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Old 08-08-2007, 01:21 AM   #26
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Romo didn't break any personal records. There is a difference. Barroid hasn't won his team jack so that can't be taken into question.
So if Bonds won a world series, all would be forgiven? I do not understand the difference. Both have used roids, yet only the percieved a-hole cheated
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:21 AM   #27
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Arod has a great chance at breaking it...Youngest player ever to hit 500...Go ARod.
A rod is on steroids too. SO what's the difference?
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:25 AM   #28
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So if Bonds won a world series, all would be forgiven? I do not understand the difference. Both have used roids, yet only the percieved a-hole cheated
No what I am saying is, your argument would be more valid if Barry had won a Series. To say that Romo tainted the Broncos SB wins just as much Barry tainting the most hallowed record in sports is ludicrous. He is a cheat he deserves to have all records erased. Romo is just as much scum in my book.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:30 AM   #29
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Well I am happy for Bonds and his family.. only history can judge.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:31 AM   #30
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:41 AM   #31
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Hopefully these threads will now mercifully end.

I don't think there has been one convert from one side to the other of this 'debate' since the grand jury testimony was leaked.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:46 AM   #32
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I hope he rots in hell with his father, Ty Cobb, Jeffrey Dahlmer and Bob as his room mates.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:46 AM   #33
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damn it I was watching it and left before he hit it. Not that I like the guy or anything but I would have been cool to see it.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:47 AM   #34
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I couldnt care less. I don't even like baseball.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:01 AM   #35
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This will be the shortest celebration ever of any record being broken.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:05 AM   #36
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:11 AM   #37
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I know people talk about how roids kills the games spirit. But it never hurt anyone, everyone comes out ahead.

The team makes more money, the bat boy makes more, the players.

But Bonds it not very likable. He only cares about himself, thats what makes it so hard.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:17 AM   #38
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Meh... I quit caring about baseball after the '94 lockout. Anyone who was impressed with the takedown of Maris' record was just kidding themselves. It seemed like a cheap stunt then, and has only gotten worse. Funny that the holiest of holy baseball records is broken tonight, and I find out on a football forum. Pretty much says it all right there.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:40 AM   #39
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Those of you bashing Bonds now were probably the same ones cheering McGwuire's and Sosa's chase of Maris' single season record. Why is Barry's feat so much different? Congrats to Barry.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:41 AM   #41
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Couple things from this circus clown who cheated, I tuned into the game on BBPN2 (formerly ESPN2).

1. Hank's pre-recorded message was so phony, I loved it.

2. The dog pile to get the ball in the outfield was funny as hell, the guy in the orange shirt jumping into the pile was funny too.

3. A Mets fan emerges with the ball and not a Giant fan.

4. This was originally on Yahoo! before they took it down.



5. Finally Barry's speech deserves an oscar, it was so phony and actually the whole night was phony and it was fitting for the occasion because this HR record is phony.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:46 AM   #42
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So if Bonds won a world series, all would be forgiven? I do not understand the difference. Both have used roids, yet only the percieved a-hole cheated
Dude, personal records are about a particular person, not the team. This is true especially when you hit in baseball. He cheated. Romo probably did help us out because he was a roid freak to be fair. If that was the case then he cheated and an asterisk should be kept by his name for all the records he holds.

I don't hold the Giants nor Broncos responsible for the decisions a person makes. I hold Barry Bonds and Bill Romanowski responsible for being cheaters. I don't care if Romo cheated with the Broncs or not.
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Old 08-08-2007, 02:56 AM   #43
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Steroids or not, this guy went out there night after night hitting homers. There is no need to put an asterisk next to his name, oh no, but to put an Asterisk next to MLB*. I'm sure Bonds has faced plenty of HGHed Pitchers and I'm sure the Hall of Fame has steroid users. Sosa is probably the only guy hitting homers without steroids since he corked his bats instead.

Also, I'm still a bit skeptical about Bond's Steroid use, I can't say I entirely believe all of the myths behind it. Anyway, Congrats Bonds. Next destination HR #800.
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:11 AM   #44
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cheated or not, people need to relax on him. The amount of crap this guy has had to put up with over the past few years (for something tons of other players did too) is incredible. If i were him, i woulda punched numerous people out by now. I think he's shown restraint. How do you expect him to act
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:21 AM   #45
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It's amazing all the people who want to put an asterick behind his records. I bet the amount of baseball players that have cheated is probably equal to the number of college students who smoke marijuana. Everybody's doing it! They should just put an * after MLB*
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It's amazing all the people who want to put an asterick behind his records. I bet the amount of baseball players that have cheated is probably equal to the number of college students who smoke marijuana. Everybody's doing it! They should just put an * after MLB*
Oh man, and the best is when they invoke the whole defense of "ya, sure, other guys cheat, but this is the HR RECORD!", as if this wouldn't make it THAT much harder to hit off of roided pitchers.

Plus it's freakin' baseball, where every park has nutso dimensions. If Helton broke a batting record would there be an asterisk next to it? etc.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:09 AM   #47
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The real news in baseball tonight was Justin Upton hitting home run #1 in a 3-for-4 game in which he was a single short of the cycle.

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Old 08-08-2007, 04:16 AM   #48
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The real news in baseball tonight was Justin Upton hitting home run #1 in a 3-for-4 game in which he was a single short of the cycle.


That 19 year old will be causing a lot of havoc in the NL West and elsewhere.
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Old 08-08-2007, 04:23 AM   #49
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Well I am happy for Bonds and his family.. only history can judge.
What do you mean? Millions of fans know the outcome of his steroid useage. I hope that a grand jury will be the deciding factor that he is a cheat that broke a record that very few have owned. I believe i can name them on top of my head from the last 100 years. Homerun Baker, Babe Ruth, Aaron, and now Barroids. I just hope A rod isnt juiced so in 8 years or so I can be happy that he erased the only man without elephanttitus to increase his head and shoe size in his 30s. Anyone that enjoyed him taking this record on the conditions of cheating, how do you tell your kids that cheating in school does more harm than good? If i was your kid, I would laugh in your kiss ass face.
I went to the Angels game and they showed the hit between 6th and 7th inning. Glad Angels fans had the courage NOT to stand and clap. Most seemed disappointed. Unlike those sissy Madres fans that stood up and cheered. Shame on them! On a happier note, Angels win again and ready to sweep.
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Also, I'm still a bit skeptical about Bond's Steroid use, I can't say I entirely believe all of the myths behind it. Anyway, Congrats Bonds. Next destination HR #800.
He's already admitted to using steroids.

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What he said: Testifying before the BALCO Grand Jury, Bonds admitted to using two undetectable steroids from BALCO. He testified that he believed The Cream was an arthritis balm and the THG was flaxseed oil capsules. Both substances were given to him by his friend and trainer, Greg Anderson. His confidential testimony was leaked to the San Fransisco Chronicle; excerpts were published in a Dec. 3, 2004 article entitled What Bonds told BALCO grand jury.
http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/b...ml#barry_bonds
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