O.T. - Fatties overtaking America

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by mosca

Just drink water. Even without all the sugar, all the other stuff in the soda's bad for you too. Americans just can't seem to drink anything unless it's sweet and "tastes good".

Amen. It's really all you have to do to fight off high daily calorie intake

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Anybody who's still drinking sugar-pop or sugar-tea ... I strongly recommend changing to diet. If you don't know, it svcks at first, but after 3 weeks or so - BOOM! Suddenly it tastes great - better than sugar pop ever tasted. And you'll never want regular again.

It's a very weird phenomenon. Something about the aspartame molecule eventually "fooling" your taste buds. After maybe 3 weeks of complaining, "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" .... finally the taste buds just surrender.

Just get rid of the pop all together. That stuff is terrible for your body in more ways than one. It absolutely ruins your teeth (pop drinkers will find this out the hard way later in life).
Aspartame breaks down into methane, formaldehyde, phenylalanine and several acids in the body. Some studies point towards brain diseases and cancers using the stuff and if that weren't enough Donald Rumsfeld played an integral part in getting the crap approved in the U.S.

Get rid of the milk too. If you need to drink milk drink soy milk (many times better for you and no growth hormones).

[Hotrod]

I actually grew up on milk straight from the cow. I was never a fat lard so I think it all depends on activity. Thats the key IMHO

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

I actually grew up on milk straight from the cow. I was never a fat lard so I think it all depends on activity. Thats the key IMHO

Did you teet in the bucket first or take it straight from the nipple?

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

Did you teet in the bucket first or take it straight from the nipple?

we bought it from the family down the road. Then you take the cream off the top, put it in a blender and get real 100% butter.

The milk itself tastes totally differnet then that fake/processed **** you buy in the store thou. I hardly ever drink milk these days. My kids both drink a good amount but neither if fat and both are very active.

People also dont realize how much suger is in "fruit drinks" they sell and market to kids.

Surprisingly one of the worst foods that we allow kids to eat today is Katsup. Seriously its 90% suger.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

we bought it from the family down the road. Then you take the cream off the top, put it in a blender and get real 100% butter.

The milk itself tastes totally differnet then that fake/processed **** you buy in the store thou. I hardly ever drink milk these days. My kids both drink a good amount but neither if fat and both are very active.
People also dont realize how much suger is in "fruit drinks" they sell and market to kids.
Surprisingly one of the worst foods that we allow kids to eat today is Katsup. Seriously its 90% suger.

Yeah my uncles and grandma were all dairy farmers in the Hudson area. Big farms, big operations (milking 300+ Holsteins each). We had fresh beef, pork and fresh milk, eggs and butter my entire childhood.

Artificial fruit drinks are horrible for you too! 100% juice drinks are much better but contain high amounts of sugar.

Most ketchup is only 3-4 grams of sugar per serving so that's not too bad.

[smalltowngrll]

What America seems to forget when they try to lose weight is that it must be a way of life! "Diets" are only temporary and once you are done with your diet and you've lost the weight, you will just gain it back because you go back to those same habits.

Not only that, but I don't think most people realize just how many calories they are consuming and they don't realize how many calories their body uses. The best thing I ever did was educate myself on how my body uses food and how many calories are in the foods that I eat. I was shocked years ago when I began learning.

My opinion is that our society has convinced people that there is a 'quick fix' to everything. You have the numerous fad diets, the thirty minute workout routines, the surgical procedures and the list goes on. The roots of this problem are deep and the only way to make a change is to begin with our children and teach them correct nutrition and excercise.

[Jason in LA]

I drink water all day long. About 3 liters. The only time I'll drink fruit drinks or soda is on Sundays, which is my cheat day. The only time I'll drink a sports drink, like gatorade, is right after a workout, when the body needs it. But people drink gatorade like it's Kool Aid. It's not good to drink gatorade and then just lunge around.

A physiological professor told me that diet soda is nearly as bad as regular soda. I forgot most of the details, but he was saying that one bad thing about soda is that it dehydrates the body. For every soda you drink, you have to drink two cups of water to make up for it. He said that it is still true for diet soda.

[boltaneer]

Lots of good advice in this thread.

This is mostly common knowledge sort of stuff but it's key to keeping the weight off and feeling better:

- Keep a regular exercise routine going, even just walking. You don't have to run miles and miles every day. Just keep an active lifestyle going.
- Cut the sugar and foods high in fat (fast food) out of your meals.
- Don't overeat. Eat until you're satisfied, not until you feel full. If you keep stuffing yourself, your body will get used to that feeling and want more food.
- But have some healthy snacks in between meals.
- Don't eat near bedtime.

The one thing I'm guilty of is drinking diet soda. I'm working on cutting back on that.

[RkyMtnThunder]

Originally Posted by boltaneer

The one thing I'm guilty of is drinking diet soda. I'm working on cutting back on that.

I drink too much diet soda as well. Its too hot out here for coffee IMO, so thats where I get my jolt.

I have been substituting diet sodas with iced green tea more and more, eventually the green tea will replace diet soda all together. I still get my jolt, but its much better for you.

[boltaneer]

Originally Posted by Bob's your Information Minister

This is why America is fat.

http://www.junkfoodblog.com/2006/07/...-pancakes.html

And I'm sure none of us are surprised that you're reading up on this kind of stuff.

So tell me, they're delicious, yes?

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by RkyMtnThunder

I drink too much diet soda as well. Its too hot out here for coffee IMO, so thats where I get my jolt.

I have been substituting diet sodas with iced green tea more and more, eventually the green tea will replace diet soda all together. I still get my jolt, but its much better for you.

You sir are on the right track. Props!!
Check out the V8 frusion stuff. 100% fruits and veggies for the day in 8 oz's. The tropical orange and bluebaerry are awesome.

[boltaneer]

Originally Posted by RkyMtnThunder

I drink too much diet soda as well. Its too hot out here for coffee IMO, so thats where I get my jolt.

I have been substituting diet sodas with iced green tea more and more, eventually the green tea will replace diet soda all together. I still get my jolt, but its much better for you.

Hmm. I don't do it for the jolt. Actually, I drink caffeine-free since caffeine doesn't really do much for me. I just do it for the taste I guess.

I'll try some iced green tea today. I do like regular green tea.

[loborugger]

Originally Posted by mosca

Just drink water. Even without all the sugar, all the other stuff in the soda's bad for you too. Americans just can't seem to drink anything unless it's sweet and "tastes good".

Another upshot to drinking plenty of water is you smell better. Water cleans your system out. People who are constantly dehydrated have nasty breath and their body odor is a lot more noticeable. Just think of anyone in your office who drinks nothing but coffee and sodas all day everyday. We had a fellow like that in my last office who drank coffee all morning and diet coke all afternoon - nice guy but I could smell his breath from 10 feet away. So addition to making you look better, it makes you smell better, too.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff
Anybody who's still drinking sugar-pop or sugar-tea ... I strongly recommend changing to diet. If you don't know, it svcks at first, but after 3 weeks or so - BOOM! Suddenly it tastes great - better than sugar pop ever tasted. And you'll never want regular again.

It's a very weird phenomenon. Something about the aspartame molecule eventually "fooling" your taste buds. After maybe 3 weeks of complaining, "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" "this is NOT sugar!" .... finally the taste buds just surrender.

That stuff is just as bad BB. Aspartame is pretty much turned into various poisons in your body.

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Study: Diet soda linked to heart risks
By JAY LINDSAY, Associated Press Writer 6 minutes ago

BOSTON - People who drank more than one diet soda each day developed the same risks for heart disease as those who downed sugary regular soda, a large but inconclusive study found.

The results surprised the researchers who expected to see a difference between regular and diet soda drinkers. It could be, they suggest, that even no-calorie sweet drinks increase the craving for more sweets, and that people who indulge in sodas probably have less healthy diets overall.

The study's senior author, Dr. Vasan Ramachandran, emphasized the findings don't show diet sodas are a cause of increased heart disease risks. But he said they show a surprising link that must be studied.

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[Rock Chalk]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

I'd say that people just don't care about their weight. It's become acceptible to be over weight because so many people are. I see some of my high school friends every now and then, and a lot of them have put on a lot of weight. There was this one girl that I messed around with, who had the perfect body back then, now she's like 30-40 lbs bigger. I was kind of upset at the way she was looking.

I don't see this problem going away. It's too easy to get over weight, and it takes a lot of work and restraint to stay in shape. Only once was I over weight. I just stopped working out for about a year and a half, and ate like crap. I didn't become obese, but my normaly weight was around 170 lbs, and I was up to 210 lbs. That 40 extra pounds wasn't muscle. Losing that weight was extremely hard, and keeping it off is just as hard because there is so much crappy food all over the place. It takes will power to eat right, and it takes will power not to skip workouts. Most people don't have that will power. They just let themselves go.

The problem will probably get worse, like the article stated.

Im glad Im one of those people that doesn't gain weight regardless of my activity level or nutritional intake.

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Jason in LA

A physiological professor told me that diet soda is nearly as bad as regular soda. I forgot most of the details, but he was saying that one bad thing about soda is that it dehydrates the body. For every soda you drink, you have to drink two cups of water to make up for it. He said that it is still true for diet soda.

No offense Jason, you know I luv ya man ... but your professor is an idiot

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

That stuff is just as bad BB. Aspartame is pretty much turned into various poisons in your body.

I never said diet soda was full of vitamins or anything like that ... but think about it: Regular soft drinks are almost 1/3 sugars and/or high-fructose-corn-syrup. Now THAT is bad for you. Especially since many people drink lots and lots of sugar soda. At ~280 calories per "medium" 24-ounce drink (and who drinks a medium really?), you can see that many soda drinkers get 1,000+ calories a day in soda alone. Easily. Just two 32-ounce Big Gulps are about 800 calories. THAT'S what I meant when I recommended switching to Diet Sodas.

1,000 calories a day -or- ZERO calories a day?


And yes, BBS, you're right that aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a very strange molecule. It converts into methane (or methanol?) in the digestive system, and also formaldehyde. And the phenylalanine in aspartame is also very weird. It's only "dangerous" per se to the small number of people with a genetic disorder regarding phenylalanine, but it also affects brain neurotransmitters. That hasn't been proven "dangerous" yet, but it's pretty weird.

Saccharin (Sweet'n'Low) and sucralose (Splenda) are both MUCH better. Saccharin - despite what you may have heard - is probably the safest food additive ever created. The infamous 1970s test that caused bladder cancer in rats has been completely discredited. First - the rats were fed only pure saccharin, and in greater volumes than their standard food intake. Second - the cancerous action in their bladders had ZERO realation to the human digestive system. And Third - that study used bad syringes, and the plastic or something from the syringes was found to have actually caused the cancer. Some soft drink companies are switching to sucralose, including Canada Dry. I hope more will follow. For me, it's only Sweet'n'Low in my coffee, tea and even smoothies.


Secret History of Nutrasweet:

TRUE STORY: Despite trying and trying, G.D. Searle - the company that owned the rights to aspartame in the 1970s - could not get it approved by Nixon or Ford's FDA (Food and Drug Admin). After Jimmy Carter was elected, Searle looked for a CEO who knew the 'ins and outs' of Washington. And they found him: Donald Rumsfeld. Yes, that Donald Rumsfeld. He went from Ford's Secretary of Defense straight to CEO of G.D. Searle. But even Rumsfeld could not get it approved by Jimmy Carter's FDA. Then, as the 1980 campaign approached, he told them it was a shoo-in to be approved if Reagan was elected, reportedly because Rummy had "connections." So Searle put the process in motion and sued the FDA as Carter's term was in its last year, and when Reagan took over - BOOM! I give you ... Nutrasweet!

[mosca]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

1,000 calories a day -or- ZERO calories a day?

I'll take the healthy ZERO calorie choice - water. Don't see the need for my drinks to include sweeteners of any kind - natural or artificial. I prefer to avoid the caffeine as well. I drink liquids to hydrate myself - not the opposite! Diet soda also still has phosphoric acid, which has its own issues in regards to our health. Diet soda may be better than regular soda, but it's not "healthy" by any means. Avoid this stuff!

[footstepsfrom#27]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBronco

That news doesn't sound very good for those in the dating pool.

Sure it does. It means that if you're even in decent shape you'll be considered a supreme catch.

[Vladimir]

Originally Posted by LDB

As long as you get a diet coke to go with it you will be fine.

rofl.

[Hulamau]

Here in Amsterdam you almost never see a Fattie ...unless they are an American tourist, I'm sad to say ... its down right embarrassing seeing these beached whales that everyone instantly recognizes as American walking down the bike lanes here (a big no no!) ... as if they own the place ... and in Holland they even have tv shows warning parents not to let Dutch kids go to the dogs like in America where every other person is a two ton Tony Galinto! Of course, it helps that everyone rides a bike here or walks as well .. the magic of a little exercise besides moving a keyboard :-)

Need to boycott 24 ounce sodas in school and supersize me EVERYTHING... from the US.

Also need to get kids started on TRX straps early in life .. they can take it with them anywhere .. unlike a gym or weights ... and have no excuse any longer for not staying truly fit and functionally strong. http://www.fitnessanywhere.com

[elsid13]

Two things that Europe has over us when comes to health. First they have sidewalk that encourage people to walk to a location - American spend to much time in their cars- and two until recently there wasn't as much fast food restaurants over there - better eating habits.

Also sidenote drinking/sipping to much Gatoraid also ruins your teeth. The high corn syrup content and ammo acids really do a number on your choppers. IF you drink it after work out chug the stuff and wash your mouth out with water if to keep the acid down.

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

No offense Jason, you know I luv ya man ... but your professor is an idiot

Well, he's only a physiological science professor. What the hell would he know about diet and exercise?

[Jason in LA]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I never said diet soda was full of vitamins or anything like that ... but think about it: Regular soft drinks are almost 1/3 sugars and/or high-fructose-corn-syrup. Now THAT is bad for you. Especially since many people drink lots and lots of sugar soda. At ~280 calories per "medium" 24-ounce drink (and who drinks a medium really?), you can see that many soda drinkers get 1,000+ calories a day in soda alone. Easily. Just two 32-ounce Big Gulps are about 800 calories. THAT'S what I meant when I recommended switching to Diet Sodas.

1,000 calories a day -or- ZERO calories a day?


And yes, BBS, you're right that aspartame (Nutrasweet) is a very strange molecule. It converts into methane (or methanol?) in the digestive system, and also formaldehyde. And the phenylalanine in aspartame is also very weird. It's only "dangerous" per se to the small number of people with a genetic disorder regarding phenylalanine, but it also affects brain neurotransmitters. That hasn't been proven "dangerous" yet, but it's pretty weird.

Saccharin (Sweet'n'Low) and sucralose (Splenda) are both MUCH better. Saccharin - despite what you may have heard - is probably the safest food additive ever created. The infamous 1970s test that caused bladder cancer in rats has been completely discredited. First - the rats were fed only pure saccharin, and in greater volumes than their standard food intake. Second - the cancerous action in their bladders had ZERO realation to the human digestive system. And Third - that study used bad syringes, and the plastic or something from the syringes was found to have actually caused the cancer. Some soft drink companies are switching to sucralose, including Canada Dry. I hope more will follow. For me, it's only Sweet'n'Low in my coffee, tea and even smoothies.


Secret History of Nutrasweet:

TRUE STORY: Despite trying and trying, G.D. Searle - the company that owned the rights to aspartame in the 1970s - could not get it approved by Nixon or Ford's FDA (Food and Drug Admin). After Jimmy Carter was elected, Searle looked for a CEO who knew the 'ins and outs' of Washington. And they found him: Donald Rumsfeld. Yes, that Donald Rumsfeld. He went from Ford's Secretary of Defense straight to CEO of G.D. Searle. But even Rumsfeld could not get it approved by Jimmy Carter's FDA. Then, as the 1980 campaign approached, he told them it was a shoo-in to be approved if Reagan was elected, reportedly because Rummy had "connections." So Searle put the process in motion and sued the FDA as Carter's term was in its last year, and when Reagan took over - BOOM! I give you ... Nutrasweet!

The problem with sodas isn't just the sugar and calories. I cannot recall all of the details, but the way it was explained to me, one of the major problems was that sodas dehydrates the body. People are suppused to drink 8 cups of water a day (how many people actually do that?). For every soda you drink, add two cups of water to that. Even if you are drinking diet sodas, you are still dehydrating your body.

Just drink water. It's good for you.