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Old 07-19-2007, 02:46 PM   #51
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Don't worry so much. We have pills to keep your arteries clean.
I wonder what kind of side effects those pills have. We have pills to burn fat too and they're extremely unhealthy.
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My son is indoors most of the day in the summer. There are two differences, that I see, from when I was a kid. First, it's hotter than hell here in Utah. It's above 100 every day. That just sucks for outdoor stuff.
Install a damn pool and make their fat @sses swim laps...
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:57 PM   #53
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I wonder what kind of side effects those pills have. We have pills to burn fat too and they're extremely unhealthy.
All kinds of nasty side effects. The only one I like though is the improved lifespan.
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More overweight chicks=less "attractive" chicks
less attractive chicks=larger amount of guys competing for them
Larger amount of guys competing=not enough attractive chicks to go around.

Thats the REAL problem facing America
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I have a rule I live by 5 out of 7 days/wk: If a food did not naturally exist 200 years ago; dont eat it. I do allow weekends to be open for anything, but during the week things are much much cleaner. (and also includes good stuff like real butter, real cheese, etc)


I think a lot of the obesity problem could be reduced if people were willing to prepare the majority of their meals instead of rely on processed foods, fast food, carry out, delivery, etc as their dietary staples.

It really doesnt take a whole heck of a lot of time/effort to prepare your meals. And clean up in the kitchen afterwards usually takes less than 15 minutes if you dont drag ass.

People are just too lazy. They complain of fatigue and a lack of time here in this modern world where technology has made life easier than at any point in human history.

My mother was a single parent working graveyards. Still she managed to find time to prepare breakfast and dinners and pack our lunch boxes. If she could do it, anyone can. No excuses.

Thing that gets my goat the most about all this is the whole 'fat acceptance' movement. You dont see heroin addicts demanding sympathy from the public for their self destruction. And we are supposedly 'shallow' or 'image driven' when we reject the idea of being grossly unhealthy?

Another peeve of mine are those who claim genetics are to blame. Glandular weight disorders are actually very rare - but I would say 9 in 10 fat people blame 'genes' or that it 'runs in the family'
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Install a damn pool and make their fat @sses swim laps...
Pool shmool! We have a damn garden hose!
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Install a damn pool and make their fat @sses swim laps...
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My kid is in the pool almost every day. Here in Phoenix, a person could have a decent, modern self cleaning pool installed for less than the price of a Honda Accord. MUCH cheaper for above ground pools. A swimming pool in the back yard is not the luxury status symbol it once was.

Of course the kids love it - and if parents are worried about the safety of kids playing in the neighborhood - well the neighborhood kids would all love to splash in your pool: so get permission slips and host pool parties every weekend and become a social hub of your neighborhood.

Sure beats the heck out of wasting your summers in the basement playing video games
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Pool shmool! We have a damn garden hose!
Whatever happened to those neighborhood water fights, at the end some kid would always break out the hose.
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Whatever happened to those neighborhood water fights, at the end some kid would always break out the hose.



that reminded me of some epic water battles in my old Green Mountain neighborhood growing up
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Whatever happened to those neighborhood water fights, at the end some kid would always break out the hose.
They'd always tell me to put my pants back on....
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All kinds of nasty side effects. The only one I like though is the improved lifespan.
I'll just eat cleaner and enjoy a longer lifespan, minus the side effects of the pill, thank you.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:10 PM   #62
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Another peeve of mine are those who claim genetics are to blame. Glandular weight disorders are actually very rare - but I would say 9 in 10 fat people blame 'genes' or that it 'runs in the family'

I get tired of that one too. Enviorment plays as big of a role as genetics. Genetics, when it comes to being fat, means that a person is more at risk of becoming fat if they eat poorly. Well, if that person doesn't eat poorly then that person won't become fat.

People have to work around bad genes.
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Pool shmool! We have a damn garden hose!
Hook it up to a slip and slide that that will be some good exercise.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:14 PM   #64
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that reminded me of some epic water battles in my old Green Mountain neighborhood growing up

In Jr. High my friends and I would hop the fence at school on a weekend, we'd each pick a water fountain as a base, and blast each other with water balloons.
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Someone can be skinny as a rail and not healthy. Keep in mind that there are girls (and some guys) that are skinny as can be, don't eat healthy, don't work out at all and people 'look' at them and think they are hot! Meanwhile, they are all flab. There was a story about this on the news a few weeks back.

Basically what people forget is that to be healthy you should have a good balance. Being skinny or falling within a certain weight group isn't always the best if one is not maintaining good cardio and muscle tone. I hate the way that society 'looks' at you and judges weather you are 'skinny' or 'fat'. Just because a gal isn't a size 2 doesn't mean that she's not healthy! Just my two cents, though!!
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:23 PM   #66
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Hook it up to a slip and slide that that will be some good exercise.
We used to do that. But our lawn was bumpy, and you'd end up with bruises all over.

Still good times, though.
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Someone can be skinny as a rail and not healthy. Keep in mind that there are girls (and some guys) that are skinny as can be, don't eat healthy, don't work out at all and people 'look' at them and think they are hot! Meanwhile, they are all flab. There was a story about this on the news a few weeks back.

Basically what people forget is that to be healthy you should have a good balance. Being skinny or falling within a certain weight group isn't always the best if one is not maintaining good cardio and muscle tone. I hate the way that society 'looks' at you and judges weather you are 'skinny' or 'fat'. Just because a gal isn't a size 2 doesn't mean that she's not healthy! Just my two cents, though!!
True - many overly 'skinny' people aren't healthy or fit by any means, but the problem of obesity dwarfs that of being underweight (no pun intended).

The Facts:

* In 1999, sixty-one percent of adults were estimated to be either overweight or obese.
* In 2000, 38.8 million adults in the U.S. were classified as obese.
* In the year 2000, obesity cost the U.S. more than $117 million.
* Approximately 300,000 deaths are brought on by physical inactivity and poor nutrition in the U.S. each year.

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We used to do that. But our lawn was bumpy, and you'd end up with bruises all over.

Still good times, though.
not to mention the risk of losing a nipple
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Quoted for truth.
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I think it was posted on here at one point in time. Penn and Teller

Anyway they did a whole BMI thing and they took 3 guys who are considerd obese by the BMI chart and had them go up against someone who is considered normal on BMI chart, running, hurdles etc. the guy that was normal was damn near worthless. He was beaten by the "obese" people I think 90% of the tests.

The BMI is virtually worthless in all directions but the only time it is even remotely accurate is if it is used to measure people that have never had any exposure to weight training or physical activity that could possibly promote muscle growth.

The fact that the BMI is still used by anyone is beyond me. It is about as accurate as someone trying to measure water temperature by looking at it.
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We had one of those large trampoleons and would set up our pool beside it so we could jump in it.

I also grew up a nintendo/sege junkie, but it was different. I didn't spend all day playing it, and could only play a couple hours at night before I was made to turn it off and do something else.
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While the BMI might be worthless I personally dont need any tests/polls/stats to tell me America is getting to be one fat lazy nation. Just open your eyes when your out and about.

http://www.letsgetreadytoramble.com/images/fatty.jpg

On the other hand there are some safetly benifits to being fat.

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The BMI is virtually worthless in all directions but the only time it is even remotely accurate is if it is used to measure people that have never had any exposure to weight training or physical activity that could possibly promote muscle growth.

The fact that the BMI is still used by anyone is beyond me. It is about as accurate as someone trying to measure water temperature by looking at it.
In order to get a more realistic idea of your BMI - it requires someone to actually take a physical test - caliper pinch test, water displacement

I agree, only using hight/weight to calculate BMI is useless.
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BMI is not applicable to people that work out (or do other muscle building activities), but is a pretty damn good indicator of obesity for everybody else. So all you fatties that rate out as "obese" on the BMI scale, stop pretending that it's because you have "natural muscles" or "a big frame" or "big bones."
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BMI is not applicable to people that work out (or do other muscle building activities), but is a pretty damn good indicator of obesity for everybody else. So all you fatties that rate out as "obese" on the BMI scale, stop pretending that it's because you have "natural muscles" or "a big frame" or "big bones."
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