God/Jesus Loves You

[REB]

Matthew 5:42-44 (New International Version)
New International Version (NIV)
Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society


42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

Love for Enemies
43"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor[a] and hate your enemy.' 44But I tell you: Love your enemies[b] and pray for those who persecute you,

[Northman]

Guess loving the " Evildoers " wasnt included in the Love thy Enemies scripture. lol

[Hogan11]

God listens.....

[REB]

Matthew 6:5
[ Prayer ] "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.

[freak6]

Sweet baby jesus told Bush to invade Iraq.

Sweet baby jesus needs to keep his nose out of foriegn policy, and stick with feeding the starving...

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by REB

42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

I'd need some money for a new boat?

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by Anubis

Guess loving the " Evildoers " wasnt included in the Love thy Enemies scripture. lol

THAT is a powerful, powerful comment.

Reminds me of my 'Easter Sunday' blog on MySpace: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=250719821


It's amazing how these neo-Christians seem to disreagrd the New Testament. Jesus didn't mince words much actually.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

THAT is a powerful, powerful comment.

Reminds me of my 'Easter Sunday' blog on MySpace: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...ogID=250719821


It's amazing how these neo-Christians seem to disreagrd the New Testament. Jesus didn't mince words much actually.

Huh? Did Jesus say, "Don't defend yourself?"

I mean, He sent the Isrealites into battle, he sent David to slay Goliath.

He wasn't a pacifist by any means.

[Bronco Bob]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Huh? Did Jesus say, "Don't defend yourself?"

I mean, He sent the Isrealites into battle, he sent David to slay Goliath.

He wasn't a pacifist by any means.

Wasn't Jesus the guy who said

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

and

"Blessed are the meek they shall inherit the earth "

and

"Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

Sounds like Jesus was advocating peace to me.

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

Huh? Did Jesus say, "Don't defend yourself?"

I mean, He sent the Isrealites into battle, he sent David to slay Goliath.

He wasn't a pacifist by any means.

Matthew 26:52

"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword."

[Bob]

Somehow, and sadly, I think that this thread is going to end in metaphorical bloodshed... The Freak is lurking somwhere....

[DBruleU]

I think you guys confuse revenge, with self-defense

Here's a good link that will answer this question...although I doubt any of you will take the time to read it. Here's just some scriptures used as evidence.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-pacifist.html

"Out of His mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty." Revelation 19:15

“There is a time for everything and a season for every activity under the heaven…a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build…a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.” Ecclesiastes 3:1, 3, & 8

Jesus Himself said, “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn ‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law---a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household’” Matthew 10:34-36

"From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it" Matthew 11:12

[BroncoBuff]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

I mean, He sent the Isrealites into battle, he sent David to slay Goliath.

CLASSIC neo-Christian mistake: You're confusing the OLD Testament with the NEW Testament!












(To clarify: "Jesus" = "New Testament." )

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

I think you guys confuse revenge, with self-defense

No - you just confuse Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq with self-defense.

[L.A. BRONCOS FAN]

Originally Posted by freak6

Sweet baby jesus told Bush to invade Iraq.

Sweet baby jesus needs to keep his nose out of foriegn policy, and stick with feeding the starving...

DOG EAT DOG
Artist: Joni Mitchell

DOG EAT DOG
It's dog eat dog--I'm just waking up
The dove is in the dungeon
And the white-washed hawks pedal hate and call it love
Dog Eat Dog
Holy hope in the hands of
Snakebite evangelists and racketeers
And big wig financiers

DOG EAT DOG
On prime time crime the victim begs
Money is the road to justice
And power walks it on crooked legs
Prime--Time--Crime
Holy hope in the hands of
Snakebite evangelists and racketeers
And big wig financiers

Where the wealth's displayed
Thieves and sycophants parade
And where it's made--
the slaves will be taken
Some are treated well
In these games of buy and sell
And some like poor beast
Are burdened down to breaking

DOG EAT DOG
It's dog eat dog, ain't it Flim Flam man
Dog eat dog, you can lie, cheat, skim, scam
Beat'em any way you can
Dog eat Dog
You'll do well in this land of
Snakebite evangelists and racketeers
You could get to be
A big wig financier

Land of snap decisions
Land of short attention spans
Nothing is savored
Long enough to really understand
In every culture in decline
The watchful ones among the slaves
Know all that is genuine will be
Scorned and conned and cast away

Dog eat dog
People looking, seeing nothing
Dog eat dog
People listening, hearing nothing
Dog eat dog
People lusting, loving nothing
Dog eat dog
People stroking, touching nothing
Dog eat dog
Knowing nothing
Dog eat dog

[Taco John]

Originally Posted by DBruleU

I think you guys confuse revenge, with self-defense

Why don't you clear it up then, and show us which scripture Jesus defended himself from his aggressors.

He didn't.

He ran.

John 8:59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

John 10:39 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands.

Luke 4:29-30 And they rose up and drove him out of the town and brought him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they could throw him down the cliff. But passing through their midst, he went away.


And his most damning condemnation for even self defense:

Luke 9:23-25 “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself?"

[Spider]

Originally Posted by freak6

Sweet baby jesus told Bush to invade Iraq.

Sweet baby jesus needs to keep his nose out of foriegn policy, and stick with feeding the starving...

powerful picture

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

powerful picture

...not as powerful as a 55Gallon drum of oil and private bank accounts filled with $$$.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

...not as powerful as a 55Gallon drum of oil and private bank accounts filled with $$$.

yeah thats true . if it were , that kid would have enough to eat

[Stormontheplains]

How much money do Atheist organizations send to third world countries for hunger? How many houses in south America have they built? I could go on and on. The religion that you gentleman hate, I have never seen. There has been nothing but good come from every church I have been a member of. Our church has spent hundred of thousands feeding, building, and educating the poor from different countries.

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

How much money do Atheist organizations send to third world countries for hunger? How many houses in south America have they built? I could go on and on. The religion that you gentleman hate, I have never seen. There has been nothing but good come from every church I have been a member of. Our church has spent hundred of thousands feeding, building, and educating the poor from different countries.

Is Jimmy Carter an atheist? I dont know ..... or does he even count ?

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by Taco John

Why don't you clear it up then, and show us which scripture Jesus defended himself from his aggressors.

He didn't.

He ran.

John 8:59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.

John 10:39 Again they sought to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands.

Luke 4:29-30 And they rose up and drove him out of the town and brought him to the brow of the hill on which their town was built, so that they could throw him down the cliff. But passing through their midst, he went away.


And his most damning condemnation for even self defense:

Luke 9:23-25 “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will save it. For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself?"

Do you even know what that scripture means? Like usual, things are taken so far out of context.

That has nothing to do with self-defense, or "running" away like you like to put it. It simply means, to follow Christ, and to be a Christian, we are to deny any of our own ambitions, needs, pleasures, and follow with Him and trust Him completely with our lives. If we live our lives just fulfilling our earthly desires, and do nothing for Christ, we have wasted our lives, and gained nothing for eternal life.

Again though, if you guys would put down your hatred for Christianity, and take the time to read what I posted earlier, you'd find your answers to your arguments right there.

[DBruleU]

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

CLASSIC neo-Christian mistake: You're confusing the OLD Testament with the NEW Testament!












(To clarify: "Jesus" = "New Testament." )

uh....wha!?

What's your point?

Did Jesus come to do away with the OT? If you think so, then you have a major problem right there that needs clarifying for you in order to read the Bible correctly.

"Think not that I am come to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I am not come to destroy but to fulfil. For verily I say to you, till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven". Matthew 5:17-20

..and if you're even so confused to think Jesus and God are two seperate beings, well then you need clarifying there as well.

[Stormontheplains]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

Is Jimmy Carter an atheist? I don't know ..... or does he even count ?

Spide, I am talking about everyone here that complains about the government not doing enough, and my question is what do the individuals that b**** here on the mane do? I personally through my church have given around $1500 this year. That is not alot, but the most I can do. That money went to south America to build a house. I have also volunteered to help disaster relief and other things. What pisses me off is whether we are talking about GOD, GW, or something else. God and GW are separate, no matter what he thinks.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Stormontheplains

How much money do Atheist organizations send to third world countries for hunger? How many houses in south America have they built? I could go on and on. The religion that you gentleman hate, I have never seen. There has been nothing but good come from every church I have been a member of. Our church has spent hundred of thousands feeding, building, and educating the poor from different countries.

How much money has "the Church" recently spent to buy themselves out of deviant behavior lawsuits? Does $66million sound about right? That could have been used to help millions of starving children!