The OrangeMane WEIGHT LOSS Thread - Page 13 - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 07-08-2007, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Requiem

I'm thinking about just eating a lot of fruits, and drinking water. . . for this whole next month.

Or is that a bad idea?

Well, if you want to live longer it might work. Radical caloric restriction is probably the fountain of youth ... truly. But make sure you get some protein. I'm into no-sugar peanut butter now: "Ingredients: Peanuts, peanut oil (Caution: may contain bits of peanuts)"

Not too much though. Funny how the fat-is-okay, carbs-are-the-enemy Atkins approach is incorporated into this ...

Science edges closer to fountain of youth
Researchers, firms target diet-gene link
By Ronald Kotulak
Tribune science reporter

Having succeeded in using a trick of nature to dramatically increase the life span of every creature it's been tried on, scientists believe they are finally on track to develop tools that can fend off the aging process in humans and prolong their lives.

The trick is calorie restriction: When animals eat less, they live longer. It's thought to be nature's way of enabling an organism to survive long enough to reproduce in times of food scarcity.

The process works by triggering genes that inhibit the damage associated with aging, thus prolonging life. In the last few years, powerful new molecular and genetic tools have allowed these longevity genes to be identified at a rapid pace, boosting the field of aging research to new heights.

Scientists are so emboldened by the discoveries that many are racing to form companies with the specific goal of discovering drugs or nutrients that will slow aging the same way calorie restriction does but without the agony of going on a food-restricted diet.

http://bioweb.usc.edu/courses/2002-f...p_fountain.pdf

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=52404

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BroncoBuff · 07-08-2007, 09:21 AM

The trick is nutrient-dense foods, and elimination of complex carbohydrates (no sugars).

The trick is to only eat foods that give you the most dense important nutrients ... that way, you eat less, but still retain nourishment:

What is nutrient density and why is it so important?

Like anything involving "density," " nutrient density" means how much you get of one thing, given the presence of something else. In the case of nutrient density, the "things" you receive, the nutrients, are analyzed in relationship to how much they "cost" you, in terms of calories. Simply stated, nutrient density means how many nutrients you get from a food, given the number of calories it contains. Nutrient density is a simple way to connect nutrients with calories.

More nutrients for less calories

Nutrient dense foods give you the most nutrients for the fewest amount of calories. In other words, nutrient dense foods give you the "biggest bang for the buck." You get lots of nutrients, and it doesn't cost you much in terms of calories.

Nutrient density is the exact principle we used when we rated all of 127 foods found on the World's Healthiest Foods website. The World's Healthiest Foods give you the biggest bang for your buck. They give you the most nutrients possible for the least amount of calories.

Eating nutrient dense foods is one of the healthiest ways to eat

Eating nutrient dense foods like the World's Healthiest Foods is one of the healthiest ways that anyone can eat. No principle is more likely to support healthy eating than the principle of nutrient density. Why is nutrient density so helpful? Because it gives you concentrated amount of valuable nutrients such as vitamins, minerals, fiber, essential fatty acids and phytonutrients, to name a few.

Nutrient density - an example

Let's take a quick example. Let's say you're low on vitamin E, and decide to eat a food that is not nutrient dense. A slice of run-of-the-mill white bread will give you about 1/10th of a milligram of vitamin E. This 1/10th of a milligram will cost you about 80 calories (the number of calories in a slice of many white breads). Now let's compare this number and amount to a slice of 100% whole wheat bread.

Whole grain products, like most whole foods, are nutrient dense. A slice of 100% whole wheat bread will cost you approximately the same number of calories (about 70-75 calories) but the vitamin E content will be substantially different. Instead of getting only 100 micrograms of vitamin E in exchange for your 70-80 calories, with 100% whole grain bread, you will get between 250 and 500 micrograms. Or, to put it somewhat differently, you would have to eat between 2-1/2 and 5 slices of run-of-the-mill white bread in order to get the same amount of vitamin E as is found in one slice of 100% whole wheat bread. And those extra 1-1/2 to 4 slices would cost you as much as 320 additional calories.

http://www.whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=81

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Sassy · 07-08-2007, 06:22 PM

I tried Muesli today...not bad!
I also bought some barley...looks similiar to oatmeal.
They're still high in carbs...but it's good carbs!

BroncoBuff · 07-09-2007, 03:25 AM

Yeah ... and ground flaxseed, of flaxseed meal, is the food highest in Omega-3 oils. I get it and wheat germ and oat bran in the baking aisle, and put some of each in my smoothies.

I dunno about Muesli - is that a cereal?

Sassy · 07-09-2007, 07:29 AM

Didn't I tell you about the flax and wheat germ!

Muesli is whole grains, dried fruits, nuts and seeds.
(rolled oats, wheat, rye , triticale and barley, dates, raisins , flax, sunfower seeds, almonds and walnuts. You can eat it hot, cold or right out of the bag).

I got that and the barley flakes in the grocery store
(heath food aisle) but you can order it.

The website is www.bobsredmill.com

BroncoBuff · 07-10-2007, 06:03 AM

No, I knew about them - even posted 18 months ago suggesting people use 'SmartBalance' because of Omega-3 and flaxseed oils: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...6&postcount=46 You might have mentioned where they were in the grocery store though - I think it was you, or else you told me how to grind them, something like that

Flaxseed, walnuts and kiwifruit have lots of it, and are the best non-fish sources, but you can also buy supplements of Linoleic, Alpha-Linolenic and Alpha-Lipoic acids.

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BroncoBuff · 07-10-2007, 06:29 AM

I have GREAT NEWS!

The caloric-restriction diet and Omega-3 in Alpha-Lipoic acid - both life-extenders posted above ?

Well... GUESS WHAT'S A GREAT SOURCE OF BOTH?

THAT'S RIGHT! DRINK UP!!

Remember ... RED WINE ONLY! No fair substituting beer!

smalltowngrll · 07-10-2007, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I have GREAT NEWS!

The caloric-restriction diet and Omega-3 in Alpha-Lipoic acid - both life-extenders posted above ?

Well... GUESS WHAT'S A GREAT SOURCE OF BOTH?

THAT'S RIGHT! DRINK UP!!

Remember ... RED WINE ONLY! No fair substituting beer!

Right on!! I love red wine!!

BroncoBuff · 07-10-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smalltowngrll

Right on!! I love red wine!!

Now why does that not surprise me?!

Just watch ... I'll follow this diet rigidly for twnty, thirty years, and I'll be in perfect health, then one day I'll get hit by a bus.

I don't think there's a single food or diet regimen that can help you when you get hit by a bus.

Hopefully, I'll be a spry and energetic 88 years old!

smalltowngrll · 07-11-2007, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

Now why does that not surprise me?!

Just watch ... I'll follow this diet rigidly for twnty, thirty years, and I'll be in perfect health, then one day I'll get hit by a bus.

I don't think there's a single food or diet regimen that can help you when you get hit by a bus.

Hopefully, I'll be a spry and energetic 88 years old!

Well, I would suppose that if you get hit by a bus and happen to survive, recovery would be much quicker and possibly a bit less complicated if you were in good health prior to the minor bus mishap!?

Sassy · 07-12-2007, 08:03 AM

UGH! Seem to be at a standstill with the weight thing

BroncoBuff · 07-12-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy

UGH! Seem to be at a standstill with the weight thing

Me too ... 292/294 for over two weeks now

smalltowngrll · 07-12-2007, 12:08 PM

Time to step up the excercise, then. It just means that your caloric intake and burn have now become equal. Add another 10 minutes a day to your cardio. Increase the cardio intensity. Change the type of cardio you are doing. Change up your weight training routine. I know, easier said than done...but, it works!

REB · 07-12-2007, 01:36 PM

This exercising stuff is like work. And I would know, I've seen people work before.

BroncoBuff · 07-13-2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smalltowngrll

Time to step up the excercise, then. It just means that your caloric intake and burn have now become equal. Add another 10 minutes a day to your cardio. Increase the cardio intensity. Change the type of cardio you are doing! Change up your weight training routine! I know, easier said than done...but, it works!

Hmmmmm .... wild guess here, but - you were a cheerleader, right?

Billy Clyde Puckett · 07-16-2007, 09:13 AM

Down 21 pounds in 7 weeks. 11 more to get to the top end of what the Dr. recommends. I would like to drop 10 below that, but I think I was 15 years old the last time I weighed that little.

Circle Orange · 07-16-2007, 10:29 AM

Wow, we've got some nice, beefy guys here. But don't worry...it's all good. Women like trampolines of love.

There's a radical diet that's kinda crazy but it works. But be careful doing this:

1. Go to an extremely rough neighborhood.
2. Walk past gangs.
3. Give them the finger and shout, "YOUR MAMA." in any language, this is trouble.
4. Run like hell.
5. Go home and drink a lot of water.

It's the equivalent to an obstacle course and cardiovascular fitness. You run for your life (thus accelerating heart rate), improve flexibility (by diving over cars and dashing through traffic). Burn calories (by dodging bullets and bottles).

There are two drawbacks to this diet.

One, you cannot do this in one place more than once.

And two, it has a high mortality rate.

But really, it isn't the weight so much as how you're made...I've seen the same weight on two people and they look completely different.

So...

EAT UP. Worry later.

On

BroncoBuff · 07-16-2007, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REB

This exercising stuff is like work. And I would know, I've seen people work before.

That one's good enough for your Joke Thread, sir ...

BroncoBuff · 07-17-2007, 03:37 AM

DING DING DING! 289!

I thought I'd never break 294 ... so I've been half-starving myself the past 10 days. I guess it worked! That's 31 pounds in three months, goal weight: 240. (Ideally, 225 ... but 240 will work at my age).

Hey Old Dude ... OM Awards this year?

Sassy · 07-17-2007, 06:57 AM

Men...it's easier for you guys to lose

Billy Clyde Puckett · 07-17-2007, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

DING DING DING! 289!

I thought I'd never break 294 ... so I've been half-starving myself the past 10 days. I guess it worked! That's 31 pounds in three months, goal weight: 240. (Ideally, 225 ... but 240 will work at my age).

Hey Old Dude ... OM Awards this year?

Good job BB. Plateaus are a b****, but hang in there and you'll break through.

REB · 07-17-2007, 12:54 PM

Congrats Buff!

Sassy · 07-17-2007, 01:03 PM

Dang...I need a new routine

BroncoBuff · 07-17-2007, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy

Dang...I need a new routine

I think yours seems fine ... bicycling is just about the best of all workouts.

Sassy · 07-17-2007, 10:36 PM

I'm at a standstill though.
Haven't lost anything for about 3 weeks...
I did water aerobics this am and biked for an hour this pm.

07-08-2007, 09:21 AM	#302
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	The trick is nutrient-dense foods, and elimination of complex carbohydrates (no sugars). The trick is to only eat foods that give you the most dense important nutrients ... that way, you eat less, but still retain nourishment: What is nutrient density and why is it so important? Like anything involving "density," " nutrient density" means how much you get of one thing, given the presence of something else. In the case of nutrient density, the "things" you receive, the nutrients, are analyzed in relationship to how much they "cost" you, in terms of calories. Simply stated, nutrient density means how many nutrients you get from a food, given the number of calories it contains. Nutrient density is a simple way to connect nutrients with calories. More nutrients for less calories Nutrient dense foods give you the most nutrients for the fewest amount of calories. In other words, nutrient dense foods give you the "biggest bang for the buck." You get lots of nutrients, and it doesn't cost you much in terms of calories. Nutrient density is the exact principle we used when we rated all of 127 foods found on the World's Healthiest Foods website. The World's Healthiest Foods give you the biggest bang for your buck. They give you the most nutrients possible for the least amount of calories. Eating nutrient dense foods is one of the healthiest ways to eat Eating nutrient dense foods like the World's Healthiest Foods is one of the healthiest ways that anyone can eat. No principle is more likely to support healthy eating than the principle of nutrient density. Why is nutrient density so helpful? Because it gives you concentrated amount of valuable nutrients such as vitamins, minerals, fiber, essential fatty acids and phytonutrients, to name a few. Nutrient density - an example Let's take a quick example. Let's say you're low on vitamin E, and decide to eat a food that is not nutrient dense. A slice of run-of-the-mill white bread will give you about 1/10th of a milligram of vitamin E. This 1/10th of a milligram will cost you about 80 calories (the number of calories in a slice of many white breads). Now let's compare this number and amount to a slice of 100% whole wheat bread. Whole grain products, like most whole foods, are nutrient dense. A slice of 100% whole wheat bread will cost you approximately the same number of calories (about 70-75 calories) but the vitamin E content will be substantially different. Instead of getting only 100 micrograms of vitamin E in exchange for your 70-80 calories, with 100% whole grain bread, you will get between 250 and 500 micrograms. Or, to put it somewhat differently, you would have to eat between 2-1/2 and 5 slices of run-of-the-mill white bread in order to get the same amount of vitamin E as is found in one slice of 100% whole wheat bread. And those extra 1-1/2 to 4 slices would cost you as much as 320 additional calories. http://www.whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=81 . Last edited by BroncoBuff; 07-08-2007 at 09:34 AM..

07-09-2007, 07:29 AM	#305
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Didn't I tell you about the flax and wheat germ! Muesli is whole grains, dried fruits, nuts and seeds. (rolled oats, wheat, rye , triticale and barley, dates, raisins , flax, sunfower seeds, almonds and walnuts. You can eat it hot, cold or right out of the bag). I got that and the barley flakes in the grocery store (heath food aisle) but you can order it. The website is www.bobsredmill.com Last edited by Sassy; 07-09-2007 at 07:32 AM..

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07-08-2007, 06:22 PM	#303
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I tried Muesli today...not bad! I also bought some barley...looks similiar to oatmeal. They're still high in carbs...but it's good carbs!

07-09-2007, 03:25 AM	#304
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Yeah ... and ground flaxseed, of flaxseed meal, is the food highest in Omega-3 oils. I get it and wheat germ and oat bran in the baking aisle, and put some of each in my smoothies. I dunno about Muesli - is that a cereal?

07-10-2007, 06:03 AM	#306
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	No, I knew about them - even posted 18 months ago suggesting people use 'SmartBalance' because of Omega-3 and flaxseed oils: http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showpos...6&postcount=46 You might have mentioned where they were in the grocery store though - I think it was you, or else you told me how to grind them, something like that Flaxseed, walnuts and kiwifruit have lots of it, and are the best non-fish sources, but you can also buy supplements of Linoleic, Alpha-Linolenic and Alpha-Lipoic acids. .

07-10-2007, 06:29 AM	#307
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	I have GREAT NEWS! The caloric-restriction diet and Omega-3 in Alpha-Lipoic acid - both life-extenders posted above ? Well... GUESS WHAT'S A GREAT SOURCE OF BOTH? THAT'S RIGHT! DRINK UP!! Remember ... RED WINE ONLY! No fair substituting beer!

07-12-2007, 08:03 AM	#311
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	UGH! Seem to be at a standstill with the weight thing

07-12-2007, 12:08 PM	#313
smalltowngrll Orange Blue Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 8,038 Adopt-a-Bronco: dortoh	Time to step up the excercise, then. It just means that your caloric intake and burn have now become equal. Add another 10 minutes a day to your cardio. Increase the cardio intensity. Change the type of cardio you are doing. Change up your weight training routine. I know, easier said than done...but, it works!

07-12-2007, 01:36 PM	#314
REB LP.org/L4L.org "This one's for John!" 3:16 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 'I guess he'd rather be in Colorado' Posts: 8,723	This exercising stuff is like work. And I would know, I've seen people work before.

07-16-2007, 09:13 AM	#316
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	Down 21 pounds in 7 weeks. 11 more to get to the top end of what the Dr. recommends. I would like to drop 10 below that, but I think I was 15 years old the last time I weighed that little.

07-16-2007, 10:29 AM	#317
Circle Orange SPOT ON. Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Styxx, D.C. Posts: 3,956	Wow, we've got some nice, beefy guys here. But don't worry...it's all good. Women like trampolines of love. There's a radical diet that's kinda crazy but it works. But be careful doing this: 1. Go to an extremely rough neighborhood. 2. Walk past gangs. 3. Give them the finger and shout, "YOUR MAMA." in any language, this is trouble. 4. Run like hell. 5. Go home and drink a lot of water. It's the equivalent to an obstacle course and cardiovascular fitness. You run for your life (thus accelerating heart rate), improve flexibility (by diving over cars and dashing through traffic). Burn calories (by dodging bullets and bottles). There are two drawbacks to this diet. One, you cannot do this in one place more than once. And two, it has a high mortality rate. But really, it isn't the weight so much as how you're made...I've seen the same weight on two people and they look completely different. So... EAT UP. Worry later. On

07-17-2007, 03:37 AM	#319
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,435 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	DING DING DING! 289! I thought I'd never break 294 ... so I've been half-starving myself the past 10 days. I guess it worked! That's 31 pounds in three months, goal weight: 240. (Ideally, 225 ... but 240 will work at my age). Hey Old Dude ... OM Awards this year?

07-17-2007, 06:57 AM	#320
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Men...it's easier for you guys to lose

07-17-2007, 12:54 PM	#322
REB LP.org/L4L.org "This one's for John!" 3:16 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: 'I guess he'd rather be in Colorado' Posts: 8,723	Congrats Buff!

07-17-2007, 01:03 PM	#323
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	Dang...I need a new routine

07-17-2007, 10:36 PM	#325
Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I'm at a standstill though. Haven't lost anything for about 3 weeks... I did water aerobics this am and biked for an hour this pm.