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Old 06-18-2007, 09:37 PM   #201
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I needed a point guard and pretty soon I'd be drafting Daniel Gibson.
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I needed a point guard and pretty soon I'd be drafting Daniel Gibson.
Nah, if you're gonna be a Cavs homer, go for Mark Price.

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:35 PM   #203
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Eddie Mac is on the clock at 9 PM CST. He has until 9 AM CST to select.

VJ82, Ludo, and AZBroncofan are on deck.


Also, I have edited my first two posts on this thread to update the players taken per round and alphabetically. A while back posters lost their ability to edit a post after a certain amount of time, but this is no longer the case. (Thanks for the heads up Jens.)

So, look to posts one and two of this thread to stay current with the picks. That is all.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:04 AM   #204
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I just want to know if you draft a player who goes on to become coach, if they can go both ways as player-coach.

Ok, maybe that's not serious, but taking Lenny Wilkins, and freak asking "as a player or coach" got me thinking.

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I just want to know if you draft a player who goes on to become coach, if they can go both ways as player-coach.

Ok, maybe that's not serious, but taking Lenny Wilkins, and freak asking "as a player or coach" got me thinking.

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I'd say you take them as a player OR a coach. Not either or. Lenny Wilkens coaching a team in his 20s wouldn't be great. Or trying to play guard in his 60s. Ugh.

That being said, Lenny Wilkens is still available as a coach. Now that's bending the parameters of time and space, huh?
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I'd say you take them as a player OR a coach. Not either or. Lenny Wilkens coaching a team in his 20s wouldn't be great. Or trying to play guard in his 60s. Ugh.

That being said, Lenny Wilkens is still available as a coach. Now that's bending the parameters of time and space, huh?
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With my 4th selection I'll take

Bernard King




One of the most explosive scorers of his era, Bernard King had a fascinating career. Major knee reconstruction cost him two years at the peak of his abilities. When he returned to the court despite great odds against a comeback, he had to adjust his style of play to accommodate his diminished physical abilities. He proved many skeptics wrong when he became an All-Star. He poured in more than 19,000 points in a career spent with the New Jersey Nets, Utah Jazz, Golden State Warriors, New York Knicks and Washington Bullets.

A point machine in stretches, King won the NBA scoring title in 1984-85 by averaging 32.9 points per game.

King came from a distinguished basketball family. His younger brother, Albert, was once considered the greatest high school player in the country and went on to play for several years in the NBA. Bernard was a prep star at Brooklyn's Fort Hamilton High School and moved on to a turbulent career at Tennessee marked by stardom on the court and a number of controversial incidents off of it. He declared himself eligible for the 1977 NBA Draft after his junior year, during which he had scored an average of 25.8 points per game.
The New York Nets (the franchise moved to New Jersey before the 1977-78 season) selected King with the seventh overall pick. As a rookie he led the team in scoring and placed 10th in the NBA with 24.2 points per game. He earned a berth on the NBA All-Rookie Team but lost out on Rookie of the Year honors to the Phoenix Suns' Walter Davis. The Nets, however, brought up the rear in the Atlantic Division with a 24-58 record.
King followed his rookie campaign with a 21.6 scoring average. But although he was a dominating player, his off-court problems continued. The Nets dealt him to Utah, where he played only 19 games in 1979-80 before seeking treatment for substance abuse. "I realized that if I drank, there would be no career, there would be no life," he told HOOP magazine years later. "There's not much more you can say after that."
Before the 1980-81 season, the Jazz traded King to Golden State for Wayne Cooper and a second-round draft choice. King spent two seasons with the Warriors and averaged better than 20 ppg each year. In 1980-81 he averaged 21.9 ppg, shot .588 from the floor, and was named NBA Comeback Player of the Year. In 1981-82, he led the team with 23.2 ppg, made his first All-Star Game appearance and was selected to the All-NBA Second Team. He ranked eighth in the league in scoring and seventh in field-goal percentage at .566.
King was not flamboyant, just effective. A 6-7 small forward, he was a formidable offensive force who was at his best when posting up a defender with his back to the basket, then spinning right or left to shake free for a lightning-quick turnaround jump shot. He shot .500 or better from the field for seven consecutive seasons.
After the 1981-82 campaign, King signed as a veteran free agent with the New York Knicks. The Warriors exercised their right of first refusal, matching the offer and then trading King to the Knicks for Micheal Ray Richardson and a draft choice.

King enjoyed his greatest glory while playing in a New York uniform. His scoring output increased each year with the Knicks, from 21.9 points per game in 1982-83 to 26.3 per contest (fifth in the league) in 1983-84.

King enjoyed his greatest glory while playing in a New York uniform. His scoring output increased each year with the Knicks, from 21.9 ppg in 1982-83 to 26.3 ppg (fifth in the league) in 1983-84. On Jan. 31 and Feb. 1, he posted back-to-back 50-point outings against the San Antonio Spurs and the Dallas Mavericks. He also returned to the All-Star Game that year and earned his first spot on the All-NBA First Team.
He almost single-handely led the Knicks to a 3-2 first round series win over the Detroit Pistons as he posted over 40 points in four games and 36 in the other. King averaged 34.8 ppg in the entire 1984 NBA Playoffs, before losing in the Eastern Conference Semifinals to the Boston Celtics in seven games.
In 1984-85 King was the main attraction in the Big Apple and beyond. He led the NBA in scoring with an average of 32.9 ppg, including one memorable heat wave in the middle of winter. On Christmas Day he scored 60 points against New Jersey (a Knick franchise record), and on Feb. 16, he rained in 55 points against the Nets.
"Talk to any guy who's a scorer, and he'll tell you there are times when you go into a zone," King told Inside Sports. "When I was averaging 30 points a game. I didn't have to think about anything. Everything is happening on a very instinctual level.. On a particular night, no matter what you do, there's a feeling it's going to work. It's an incredible feeling. There's nothing like it."
Then his fairy-tale season had a horror-movie ending. On March 23 at Kansas City, King crumbled to the floor with a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee. The knee was so seriously mangled that he missed the subsequent 1985-86 season and all but the final six games of the 1986-87 campaign.
That injury prompted a slump by the Knicks at the conclusion of the 1984-85 season and eventually placed the team in the first NBA Draft Lottery for non-playoff teams. The Knicks were fortunate by getting the number one selection in the 1985 Draft and selected Patrick Ewing. However, King missed Ewing's entire rookie season and in the next season, Ewing was injured for the six games King played. In those six games, King averaged 22.7 ppg, proving that he had successfully rehabilitated himself. But the Knicks were no longer interested in him, and they renounced his rights at the end of the 1986-87 campaign.
New York and the rest of the league then watched in wonder as the small forward scoring machine worked his way back up with the Washington Bullets. He averaged 17.2 ppg in his first comeback season and increased his scoring for the following three years until 1990-91, when he reached 28.4 ppg (third in the NBA behind Michael Jordan and Karl Malone) and returned -- up to that point as the oldest starter ever -- to an NBA All-Star Game.
Even more remarkably, King changed his playing style to accommodate the loss of explosiveness he had suffered because of his knee injury. Where most of his points had once come from posting up, flinging in bump-and-fade jumpers from the baseline and shooting from the perimeter, the "new" King was a face-up player who scored most of his points with slashing moves to the basket. He had become a complete in-the-paint player.
Not only had he reconstructed his knee and his career, but he also had rehabbed his reputation from that of a troubled Brooklyn prodigy to that of a thoughtful (if moody) superstar. He later told Inside Sports, "If I'm going to do something in life, I've always felt I had to be the best at it. That feeling drives me, gives me motivation. I knew that it would take a tremendous amount of effort to play again, but I wanted it. I didn't want to just come back, I wanted to come back as an All-Star."
Another knee operation, this time to remove cartilage, was performed before the 1991-92 season, and it eventually took its toll. He missed that campaign, then was waived by the Bullets in January of 1993. He latched on with the Nets and played 32 games before retiring after the 1992-93 season. King had scored 19,655 points for a career average of 22.5 ppg.
King later said that his biggest regrets were not winning a championship ring and, to a lesser extent, not making the 20,000-point club. "But you know what I'm going to do about that?" he thought aloud in Newsday in 1993. "At some point before the winter begins, I'm going to go in the backyard and score 350 points. So that'll bring me up to par."


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SF - George Gervin
PF - Bernard King
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With their 4th pick the Fighting Irish select Elvin Hayes F Rockets/Bullets 68-84

One of the most talented power forwards ever to play the game, Elvin Hayes used his trademark turnaround jumper and aggressive defense to win a secure place in the NBA record books. Fifth on the all-time list in games (1,303) and third in minutes played (50,000), he missed only nine contests in his 16 years in the league, a tribute to his durability and conditioning. An All-Star for each of his first 12 seasons, he scored more points (27,313) than any other player in NBA history except for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan and Moses Malone.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1990); NBA champion (1978); All-NBA First Team (1975, '77, '79); All-NBA Second Team (1973, '74, '76); All-Defensive Second Team (1974, '75); All-Rookie Team (1969); 12-time All-Star (1969-80); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History ('96).

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With their 4th pick the Fighting Irish select Elvin Hayes F Rockets/Bullets 68-84

One of the most talented power forwards ever to play the game, Elvin Hayes used his trademark turnaround jumper and aggressive defense to win a secure place in the NBA record books. Fifth on the all-time list in games (1,303) and third in minutes played (50,000), he missed only nine contests in his 16 years in the league, a tribute to his durability and conditioning. An All-Star for each of his first 12 seasons, he scored more points (27,313) than any other player in NBA history except for Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Karl Malone, Wilt Chamberlain, Michael Jordan and Moses Malone.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1990); NBA champion (1978); All-NBA First Team (1975, '77, '79); All-NBA Second Team (1973, '74, '76); All-Defensive Second Team (1974, '75); All-Rookie Team (1969); 12-time All-Star (1969-80); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History ('96).

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All your picks have been outstanding value.
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I'm jealous of the Elvin Hayes pick. Had he slid to me, I would have taken him in about 2.5 seconds.
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No kidding. He's assembling quite the team

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Totally agree. If we are judging guys in thier era, Mikan = Shaq. The rest are great HOF players. Gervin and Dr. J are kind of the same player, but what's wrong with that? Nice line-up right there. Elvin Hayes was at his best in San Diego.
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Has Barkley been chosen, if not I want him.

If he has been, Ill take Carmelo Anthony.

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I was under the impression that Oscar Robertson was a point guard Maybe I'm wrong.
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I'll take one of the biggest waste's of talent on poor teams and a very underrated player and defender in

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2001-02 36 LAL NBA 64 2 709 100 247 18 62 42 44 14 80 94 57 18 6 40 61 260
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1993-94 28 SAC NBA 78 37.1 8.1 18.3 1.6 4.0 5.5 6.6 0.9 2.8 3.7 4.0 1.3 0.2 2.8 2.7 23.4
1994-95 29 SAC NBA 82 38.7 8.1 18.3 1.9 5.2 4.6 5.4 0.8 3.5 4.4 3.8 1.1 0.4 2.9 2.8 22.8
1995-96 30 SAC NBA 81 36.4 7.5 16.9 2.8 6.4 5.2 6.1 0.7 2.7 3.3 3.1 1.5 0.2 2.7 2.9 23.1
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2001-02 36 LAL NBA 64 11.1 1.6 3.9 0.3 1.0 0.7 0.7 0.2 1.3 1.5 0.9 0.3 0.1 0.6 1.0 4.1
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Gives me the much needed SG and 3 pt shooter that I needed that can also take it to the rack.

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PF Karl Malone
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Nice pick. I think you should rename your team to the mid 90s Western Conference All star team.
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Someone needed a PG?
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During his rookie year of 1978-79, Cheeks averaged almost 30 minutes of playing time, with 8.4 points and 5.3 assists per game. In his second season in the NBA, he increased his averages to 11.4 points and 7 assists per game. The 76ers made it to the NBA finals in 1980 but were defeated by the Los Angeles Lakers, losing the series 4-2. Although his points-per-game average dropped slightly to 9.4 during 1980-81, Cheeks maintained nearly seven assists per game, increased his steals, and decreased his turnovers. In the 1981-82 season, Cheeks had a career-high 209 steals, and the 76ers returned to the NBA finals, but once again fell to the Lakers in the series final, 4-2.
By the 1982-83 season, with the help of legendary players Julius "Dr. J" Irving and Moses Malone, the 76ers were nearly unstoppable. Cheeks became known as "Little Mo" to parallel Malone's title of "Big Mo." They won 50 of their first 57 games, finished the season with a league-best 65-17 record, and went on to win the 1983 NBA championship, this time sweeping the Lakers in four games. That year Cheeks earned his first of four trips to the NBA All-Star Game.
Throughout the 1980s, Cheeks was a solid performer for the 76ers. During the 1985-86 season he averaged 15.4 points and a career-high 9.2 assists per game and had 207 steals. The following year, he posted a career-best 15.6 points per game, with 7.9 assists per game and 180 steals. He played in almost all the 76ers' games, averaging over 38 minutes per game from 1985 to 1988. During the 1988-89 season Cheeks appeared in a career-low 71 games and averaged 11.6 points per game, his lowest since the 1981-82 season. He continued to average nearly eight assists per game.
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Nice pick. I think you should rename your team to the mid 90s Western Conference All star team.
No SH!%! Didn't even think of that but when I started watching hoops was in late 80's and some of the older guys I have targeted have been gone right before me.

Now that I think of it I'll bet there was an all star game with those 4 plus someone else as the SF.

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No SH!%! Didn't even think of that but when I started watching hoops was in late 80's and some of the older guys I have targeted have been gone right before me.

Now that I think of it I'll bet there was an all star game with those 4 plus someone else as the SF.
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