All time NBA draft thread

[freak6]

Cool.



Larry Bird

Once every generation or so, a player comes along who can truly be called a superstar. Larry Bird was such a player. For 13 seasons with the Boston Celtics, from 1979-80 through 1991-92, Bird personified hustle, consistency and excellence in all areas of play--as a scorer, a passer, a rebounder, a defender, a team player, and, perhaps above all, as a clutch performer. Bird was so self-confident that he was known to waltz up to the opponents' bench before tipoff and predict a 40-point performance for himself. He was such a deadly shooter that he sometimes practiced three-pointers with his eyes closed. more...


Complete Bio | Summary | Complete Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
897 .496 .376 .886 8,974 10.0 5,695 6.3 1,556 755 21,791 24.3

Full Name: Larry Joe Bird
Born: 12/7/56 in West Baden, Ind.
High School: Springs Valley (French Lick, Ind.)
College: Indiana (did not play); Indiana State
Drafted by: Boston Celtics, 1978 (sixth overall)
Nickname: Larry Legend
Height: 6-9; Weight: 220 lbs.
Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1998); NBA champion (1981, '84, '86); NBA Finals MVP (1984, '86); NBA MVP (1984, '85, '86); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1980-88); All-NBA Second Team (1990); All-Defensive Second Team (1982, '83, '84); NBA Rookie of the Year (1980); One of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist (1992).

[JCMElway]

Nice pick Freak. You didn't lose much by slipping two spots. One could argue that Bird should go ahead of Russel or Olajuwon.

Man-Goblin is on the clock until 8 AM CST.

[azbroncfan]

Okay it is 6:30 PST here so 8:30 CST so I'll make my pick and it probably won't effect mangoblin anyway. but with the 12 pick in the draft Azbroncfan selects




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and for -SLAP- another Laker



Karl Malone

Karl Malone is arguably the greatest power forward of all time. Built more like a tight end than a basketball player, his size and strength made him difficult to defend in the low block, but he also filled the lane on the fast break and shot a deadly medium-range jumper. The two-time MVP finished his career with 36, 928 points second only behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He also attempted more free throws and grabbed more defensive rebounds than any player in NBA history. He was also selected to the 50th Anniversary All-Time Team and won two Olympic gold medals. As a player who consistently delivered on the court, he deserved the nickname of "The Mailman."



CAREER AVERAGES
REBOUNDS PER GAME
YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
85-86 UTA 81 76 30.6 .496 .000 .481 2.10 6.70 8.90 2.9 1.30 .54 3.44 3.60 14.9
86-87 UTA 82 82 34.8 .512 .000 .598 3.40 7.00 10.40 1.9 1.27 .73 2.89 3.90 21.7
87-88 UTA 82 82 39.0 .520 .000 .700 3.40 8.60 12.00 2.4 1.43 .61 3.96 3.60 27.7
88-89 UTA 80 80 39.1 .519 .313 .766 3.20 7.40 10.70 2.7 1.80 .88 3.56 3.60 29.1
89-90 UTA 82 82 38.1 .562 .372 .762 2.80 8.30 11.10 2.8 1.48 .61 3.71 3.20 31.0
90-91 UTA 82 82 40.3 .527 .286 .770 2.90 8.90 11.80 3.3 1.09 .96 2.98 3.30 29.0
91-92 UTA 81 81 37.7 .526 .176 .778 2.80 8.40 11.20 3.0 1.33 .63 3.06 2.80 28.0
92-93 UTA 82 82 37.8 .552 .200 .740 2.80 8.40 11.20 3.8 1.51 1.04 2.93 3.20 27.0
93-94 UTA 82 82 40.6 .497 .250 .694 2.90 8.60 11.50 4.0 1.52 1.54 2.85 3.30 25.2
94-95 UTA 82 82 38.1 .536 .268 .742 1.90 8.70 10.60 3.5 1.57 1.04 2.88 3.30 26.7
95-96 UTA 82 82 38.0 .519 .400 .723 2.10 7.70 9.80 4.2 1.68 .68 2.43 3.00 25.7
96-97 UTA 82 82 36.6 .550 .000 .755 2.40 7.50 9.90 4.5 1.38 .59 2.84 2.60 27.4
97-98 UTA 81 81 37.4 .530 .333 .761 2.30 8.00 10.30 3.9 1.19 .86 3.05 2.90 27.0
98-99 UTA 49 49 37.4 .493 .000 .788 2.20 7.30 9.40 4.1 1.27 .57 3.31 2.70 23.8
99-00 UTA 82 82 35.9 .509 .250 .797 2.10 7.40 9.50 3.7 .96 .87 2.82 2.80 25.5
00-01 UTA 81 81 35.7 .498 .400 .793 1.40 6.90 8.30 4.5 1.15 .77 3.01 2.70 23.2
01-02 UTA 80 80 38.0 .454 .360 .797 1.80 6.80 8.60 4.3 1.90 .74 3.29 2.90 22.4
02-03 UTA 81 81 36.2 .462 .214 .763 1.40 6.40 7.80 4.7 1.68 .38 2.59 2.50 20.6
03-04 LAL 42 42 32.7 .483 .000 .747 1.50 7.30 8.70 3.9 1.19 .48 2.45 2.80 13.2
Career 1476 1471 37.2 .516 .274 .742 2.40 7.70 10.10 3.6 1.41 .70 3.07 3.10 25.0
Playoff 193 193 41.0 .463 .162 .736 2.60 8.10 10.70 3.2 1.34 .70 2.85 3.40 24.7
All-Star 12 8 20.3 .542 .000 .725 1.60 4.60 6.20 1.6 1.00 .42 1.25 1.30 12.1


CAREER TOTALS

LUDO is on the clock until 630 AM PST on saturday and Mangoblin can select at anytime.

[freak6]

When we rate the different squads, are we judging the players on thier careers, or the entire squad with each player at thier peak, or which squad would win a tourney.

Also, in the 2nd round do we start over, or does the first pick in the first get the last pick in the 2nd?

It's be cool to do a tourney, and we could vote on who would move on etc...

[azbroncfan]

At this rate this won't get finished for another five years.

[Killericon]

Originally Posted by azbroncfan

At this rate this won't get finished for another five years.

Optimist.

[JCMElway]

Ludo21 is on the clock until 8:30 PM CST Saturday.

Man-Goblin may make a selection at anytime. If Man-Goblin misses his selections in the first and second round he is out of the draft.

[JCMElway]

Originally Posted by freak6

When we rate the different squads, are we judging the players on thier careers, or the entire squad with each player at thier peak, or which squad would win a tourney.

Also, in the 2nd round do we start over, or does the first pick in the first get the last pick in the 2nd?

It's be cool to do a tourney, and we could vote on who would move on etc...

The order of the draft is snaking. the last team in the first round gets to select first in the second round.

And a tourney might be cool. Rules for ranking the teams will be discussed near the end of the draft.

[ludo21]

Was their any doubt?

Steve Nash #13

[JCMElway]

Vancejohnson82 is on the clock at 8 PM CST.

Man-Goblin may still make a selection at any time.

Folks, please remember to list the time you made your selection!

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by ludo21

Was their any doubt?

Steve Nash #13

I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

[JCMElway]

Originally Posted by angryllama

I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

bitter much?

[Killericon]

Originally Posted by angryllama

I think that you probably could have gotten Nash in the 4th or 5th round.

I was targeting him with the last pick in the 2nd round.

****!

[RhymesayersDU]

I have to say, I had Nash slotted lower as well.

But it brings up an interesting discussion. Where do we slot Nash? 2 MVP's, no matter what the era or competition, is a huge deal.

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

I have to say, I had Nash slotted lower as well.
But it brings up an interesting discussion. Where do we slot Nash? 2 MVP's, no matter what the era or competition, is a huge deal.

When you look at a career, Nash wont stack up. 3 seasons as a great player wont put him on the level of the other great PG's, much less the other greats.

In an all-time draft, Nash doesnt stack up. There are several other players from his own generation that should be taken ahead of Nash.

I understand that there are several Suns homers here, but be realistic.

[JCMElway]

Eddie Mac is on the clock. He has until 8 PM CST on Monday to make his selection.

1. Killericon -- Michael Jordan
2. GSReylea -- Wilt Chamberlain
3. Master__Pain -- Earvin "Magic" Johnson
4. -Slap- - Jerry West
5. Clockwork -- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Rhymesayers DU -- Shaquille O'Neal
7. Freak6 -- Larry Bird
8. Phibacka -- Tim Duncan
9. Angryllama -- Bill Russell
10. JCMElway -- Hakeem Olajuwon
11. Man-Goblin -- May select at any time
12. AZBroncfan -- Karl Malone
13. Ludo21 -- Steve Nash
14. Vancejohnson82 -- Isiah Thomas
15. Eddie Mac -- Oscar Robertson
16. Inkana7 -- ON THE CLOCK

[eddie mac]

Oscar Robertson G 1960-1970 Cincinatti Royals, 1970-74 Milwaukee Bucks.

Oscar Robertson

Oscar Robertson, the "Big O," is the player against whom all others labeled "all-around" are judged, and he may remain the standard forever. Statistically, one need look no further than the numbers Robertson put up in 1961-62, just his second year in the league: 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists per game-an average of a triple-double for an entire season. Not even Magic Johnson or Larry Bird could match those numbers. During his 14-year NBA career with the Cincinnati Royals and the Milwaukee Bucks, Robertson amassed 26,710 points.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1980); NBA champion (1971); NBA MVP (1964); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1961-69); All-NBA Second Team (1970, '71); Rookie of Year (1961); 12-time All-Star (1961-72); All-Star MVP (1961, '64, '69); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist ('60).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,040 .485 .838 7,804 7.5 9,887 9.5 26,710 25.7

[RhymesayersDU]

Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

[Nuggets4]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

The fact that he slipped as low as he did (Steve Nash?!?) is a mindblower.

[vancejohnson82]

Sorry guys, I was in maine for the weekend and there was no internet up there at the house

I'm going with Zeke.... Isiah Thomas

[vancejohnson82]

oh, and my selection was made at 10:28 on Monday

[epicSocialism4tw]

Originally Posted by RhymesayersDU

Damnit, I was hoping the Big O would slip to round 2. Probably a pipe-dream.

Well, you never know.

Nash was taken in the first round, and so was Karl Malone, so I would count on some great players being around when your number comes up.

[JCMElway]

Inkana7 is on the clock for two selections. Inkana, please kick off the second round!

Inkana has until 10 AM CST on Tuesday to make his selection.

To keep things moving Eddiemac, Vj82, and Ludo can PM me their picks, just in case they are not by a PC when they are up.

[-Slap-]

Originally Posted by eddie mac

Oscar Robertson G 1960-1970 Cincinatti Royals, 1970-74 Milwaukee Bucks.

Oscar Robertson

Oscar Robertson, the "Big O," is the player against whom all others labeled "all-around" are judged, and he may remain the standard forever. Statistically, one need look no further than the numbers Robertson put up in 1961-62, just his second year in the league: 30.8 points, 12.5 rebounds, and 11.4 assists per game-an average of a triple-double for an entire season. Not even Magic Johnson or Larry Bird could match those numbers. During his 14-year NBA career with the Cincinnati Royals and the Milwaukee Bucks, Robertson amassed 26,710 points.

Honors: Elected to Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (1980); NBA champion (1971); NBA MVP (1964); Nine-time All-NBA First Team (1961-69); All-NBA Second Team (1970, '71); Rookie of Year (1961); 12-time All-Star (1961-72); All-Star MVP (1961, '64, '69); One of 50 Greatest Players in NBA History (1996); Olympic gold medalist ('60).

G FG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
1,040 .485 .838 7,804 7.5 9,887 9.5 26,710 25.7

The Big O was my second choice @ 4. I chose West because all the teams in this league are going to be lethal, so I wanted a guy who can take and make huge shots at the buzzer.

[Inkana7]

For my first pick, I select:

Elgin Baylor




Had Elgin Baylor been born 25 years later, his acrobatic moves would have been captured on video, his name emblazoned on sneakers, and his face plastered on cereal boxes. But he played before the days of widespread television exposure, so among the only records of his prowess that remain are the words of those who saw one of the greatest ever to play.

"He was one of the most spectacular shooters the game has ever known," Baylor's longtime teammate Jerry West told HOOP magazine in 1992. "I hear people talking about forwards today and I haven't seen many that can compare with him."

Bill Sharman played against Baylor and coached him in his final years with the Lakers. "I say without reservation that Elgin Baylor is the greatest cornerman who ever played pro basketball," he told the Los Angeles Times at Baylor's retirement in 1971.

Career Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Pts PPG
846 .431 .330 .780 11,463 13.5 3,650 4.3 23,149 27.4


And for my second pick, I'm getting my big guy in the center:

Patrick Ewing



Warrior. That is the one-word description often applied to Patrick Ewing. He was indefatigable and relentless in pursuit of an NBA championship despite being denied on an annual basis. Bold predictions did not always materialize and some took them as empty promises, while others as a will to succeed. One of the finest shooting centers to play, he left the game as the New York Knicks' all-time leader in nearly every significant category and the game's 13th all-time scorer with 24,815 points.

Career Stats
G FG% 3PFG% FT% Rebs RPG Asts APG Stls Blks Pts PPG
1,183 .504 .348 .740 11,607 9.8 2,215 1.9 1,146 2,894 24,815 21.0