General Hockey Thread v3.0 - Page 59 - The Orange Mane

alkemical · 06-01-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

who cares, when you think about it....despite the ratings and the fans b****ing about the scheduling, ownership is happy about everything since the lockout.

I don't nec. agree with that. They will want a larger tv contract.

bronco militia · 06-01-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

I don't nec. agree with that. They will want a larger tv contract.

sure they would...but hockey gets most of it's revenue from ticket sales.

broncocalijohn · 06-01-2007, 04:02 PM

Versus saved NHL when nobody wanted it. I personally think Versus does a great job with its studio show compared to Brett Hull and his negativity on the Ducks. Those guys know hockey and their insight is great IMO.
NBC will get the ratings up but what do they expect when they have some Canadian team playing the much traditional hockey club of the Ducks? I mean, a team from Canada just isnt going to cut it. They needed a fresh team like the Tampa Bay or the Panthers. (Look up sarcasm )

broncocalijohn · 06-01-2007, 04:19 PM

Bronx33 article.....

The average regular-season Red Wings ticket cost $43.13, according to Team Marketing Report, but the cheapest first-round playoff ticket was $63 and the top was $144. That increased with each round and topped out at $225 for the conference finals. The Pistons sold 1,000 tickets for the first round at $12 each and their lowest price for the conference finals is $24.

My first round tickets were $22, round 2 $31, round 3 $39 and Finals are $48. I thought prices were set by what you paid for each season ticket. My finals ticket is cheaper than their first round tickets. I remember when the Rockies were the hot item and the Avs came to town and won the Cup. Got a call from the Broncos that my "long" 9 month wait on the waiting list was over. Detroit needs to watch out because this can happen with the upsurge of the Tigers and the consistent play of the Pistons. Add bad economy in Detroit and RWs might be in trouble.
24ChampBailey, I hate cats so let us hope the Ducks continue to embarass the Kings and their fans! Maybe this is why Mock hasnt been around. After game one, Beezer was taken by the Almighty.

alkemical · 06-01-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

sure they would...but hockey gets most of it's revenue from ticket sales.

Duh - any sport does - but if you talking about greed via the owners - they will want a bigger tv deal - so they will eventually break on it.

bronco militia · 06-01-2007, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Duh - any sport does - but if you talking about greed via the owners - they will want a bigger tv deal - so they will eventually break on it.

not the NFL..

"Approximately 60 percent of the revenues of the average NFL club today come from the joint presentation of NFL games on national television networks. These revenues are shared equally among all clubs without regard to any club’s market size or revenue potential

http://www.andrewsstarspage.com/CBA/12-14cba.htm

on the other hand, 75% of the NHL revenuie is generated fro mticket sales....no link, but it's a number that was thrown around before the lockout

24champ · 06-01-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Can we say that versus and the way they show hockey on TV makes it unwatchable?

Put it back on ESPN and get the NHL2nite show back on air.

bronco militia · 06-01-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Put it back on ESPN and get the NHL2nite show back on air.

I'd love that too, but ESPN draws higher ratings from the WNBA and poker

Al Wilson · 06-02-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco militia

I'd love that too, but ESPN draws higher ratings from the WNBA and poker

If Bettman was smart, and would want hockey to expand, he would've agreed with ESPN. Seriously, who the **** watches versus?

SoCalBronco · 06-02-2007, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Al Wilson

If Bettman was smart, and would want hockey to expand, he would've agreed with ESPN. Seriously, who the **** watches versus?

Well..in all fairness, it seems that ESPN did lowball the league with their offer and TV revenues are an important part of the financial stability of the NHL it would appear.

I do miss ESPN's coverage though, and I LOVED the ESPN hockey intro music.

chadta · 06-02-2007, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Yeah they have a 14k capacity arena, they have 11k show up - that's 78% - Ahem.

http://www.mellonarena.com/arena/ana_history.asp

7th paragraph, "While the original capacity of the Mellon Arena was 10,500, these and other renovations over the past three decades have increased that number to over 17,000."

once again im sorry, i didnt realize you knew more about the arena then the arena people themselves, looks more like 64% to me, but keep living in your dream world. Oh wait you guys use the jacksonville tarp over the seats so they dont really exist trick dont ya ?

but just for ****s and giggles, if your team has such die hard fans, why has the team been bankrupt twice ?

alkemical · 06-02-2007, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chadta

http://www.mellonarena.com/arena/ana_history.asp

7th paragraph, "While the original capacity of the Mellon Arena was 10,500, these and other renovations over the past three decades have increased that number to over 17,000."

once again im sorry, i didnt realize you knew more about the arena then the arena people themselves, looks more like 64% to me, but keep living in your dream world. Oh wait you guys use the jacksonville tarp over the seats so they dont really exist trick dont ya ?

but just for ****s and giggles, if your team has such die hard fans, why has the team been bankrupt twice ?

Bad financial decisions by ownership pre-mario - like the outragous lease for the mellon.

It's ok - you are a ****tard -so have a good day while you dream of crosby kicking the flyers ass all the time. He's a flyer killer!!!!

24champ · 06-03-2007, 12:37 AM

Senators win game 3 and Pronger has a good chance of getting suspended again...

chadta · 06-03-2007, 08:25 AM

In this interview today, Forsberg said that he's only considering four teams for next season. If he plays in Europe, it'll be Modo (of course) and if he elects to continue his NHL career, he's only interested in returning to Colorado, Philadelphia or Nashville and doesn't see himself considering other offers if they come.

He also says he plans to take his time. Earlier in the week, he said on a tv interview it will not be a money decision at all-- whatever and whenever he chooses, he'll work within the teams' budget to come up with something both sides can agree to.

http://aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/stor...085098,00.html

Mtbrncofn · 06-03-2007, 01:09 PM

Of course he'll take his time. He thrives on this whole torture the fans business.

24champ · 06-03-2007, 02:15 PM

Rumor is that Pronger is suspended for game 4.

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OTTAWA -- Anaheim Ducks defenseman Chris Pronger has been suspended for Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final for a blow to the head of Ottawa Senators center Dean McAmmond Saturday night.

The incident occurred at 2:01 of the third period. No penalty was assessed.

“A variety of factors were considered in reaching this decision," said NHL Senior Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell. "Mr. Pronger used his forearm to deliver a forceful hit to the head of his opponent. Also, his actions caused injury to his opponent."

Pronger also was suspended previously for delivering a blow to the head of Detroit's Tomas Holmstrom in the Western Conference Final.

Pronger will be eligible to return for Game 5, Wednesday at Anaheim.

WEAK! Should be two games min. for a repeat offense.

SoCalBronco · 06-03-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

WEAK! Should be two games min. for a repeat offense.

24champ · 06-03-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Any other repeat offender would get at least two games. What a joke.

"This one took a lot of thought," Colin Campbell, the NHL's executive vice-president and director of hockey operations, said at a news conference.

There's the problem. Thinking & Campbell is like oil & water...

Man-Goblin · 06-03-2007, 10:37 PM

Has anyone noticed the prime coverage ESPN has been giving the finals on their home page since the finals started? I have no inside information or anything, but the pattern seems to suggest that they are going to be picking up the NHL on some level next year. This would be a GREAT thing.

Has anyone heard anything about this? I just find it very hard to believe that they would be pimping it so hard, even on SportsCenter, and not have something in the works.

Al Wilson · 06-03-2007, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

Any other repeat offender would get at least two games. What a joke.

"This one took a lot of thought," Colin Campbell, the NHL's executive vice-president and director of hockey operations, said at a news conference.

There's the problem. Thinking & Campbell is like oil & water...

It's a cup final. That 2 game suspension **** don't happen unless David Stern is in the NHL.

24champ · 06-03-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Al Wilson

It's a cup final. That 2 game suspension **** don't happen unless David Stern is in the NHL.

In one breath the NHL is saying they are cracking down hard on crap like Pronger pulled last night, and another breath the NHL is saying, hey look its the Stanley Cup finals and poor pronger, we shouldn't deprive this guy of his chance to play for the cup. Nevermind that 4 games earlier he pulled the same BS. It's no wonder the league is a joke.

broncocalijohn · 06-04-2007, 05:36 AM

I must agree on the dirty hit. As discussed b4 on his height advantage on the boarding call, he knows the elbow/checking is at a face/neck level. In SC, he would need to pull a Bertuzzi to get more than a one gamer.

SoCalBronco · 06-04-2007, 10:10 PM

One of the Ducks needs to punch "Alfie" right in the throat in the third period.

What a thug.

Defend your boy, Al Wilson.

He's going to get put on the IR in the third period.

Clockwork Orange · 06-04-2007, 10:17 PM

Jabba The Hull saying that guys shouldn't be allowed to wear visors unless they've had a serious eye injury in the past. Hey moron, visors are there to prevent serious eye injuries from happening in the first place.

Ask your former teammate if he wishes he'd had a shield on when this happened, jackass.

24champ · 06-04-2007, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

One of the Ducks needs to punch "Alfie" right in the throat in the third period.

What a thug.

Defend your boy, Al Wilson.

He's going to get put on the IR in the third period.

06-03-2007, 08:25 AM	#1464
chadta Atomic Meatball Keeper Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 2,837 Adopt-a-Bronco: The Mc Rib	Forsberg: It'll be one of four clubs In this interview today, Forsberg said that he's only considering four teams for next season. If he plays in Europe, it'll be Modo (of course) and if he elects to continue his NHL career, he's only interested in returning to Colorado, Philadelphia or Nashville and doesn't see himself considering other offers if they come. He also says he plans to take his time. Earlier in the week, he said on a tv interview it will not be a money decision at all-- whatever and whenever he chooses, he'll work within the teams' budget to come up with something both sides can agree to. http://aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/stor...085098,00.html

06-04-2007, 10:10 PM	#1473
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 33,286 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	One of the Ducks needs to punch "Alfie" right in the throat in the third period. What a thug. Defend your boy, Al Wilson. He's going to get put on the IR in the third period. __________________ ITS A PLAYOFF HOCKEY NIGHT IN PITTSBURGH!

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06-01-2007, 04:02 PM	#1453
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Versus saved NHL when nobody wanted it. I personally think Versus does a great job with its studio show compared to Brett Hull and his negativity on the Ducks. Those guys know hockey and their insight is great IMO. NBC will get the ratings up but what do they expect when they have some Canadian team playing the much traditional hockey club of the Ducks? I mean, a team from Canada just isnt going to cut it. They needed a fresh team like the Tampa Bay or the Panthers. (Look up sarcasm )

06-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#1454
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Bronx33 article..... The average regular-season Red Wings ticket cost $43.13, according to Team Marketing Report, but the cheapest first-round playoff ticket was $63 and the top was $144. That increased with each round and topped out at $225 for the conference finals. The Pistons sold 1,000 tickets for the first round at $12 each and their lowest price for the conference finals is $24. My first round tickets were $22, round 2 $31, round 3 $39 and Finals are $48. I thought prices were set by what you paid for each season ticket. My finals ticket is cheaper than their first round tickets. I remember when the Rockies were the hot item and the Avs came to town and won the Cup. Got a call from the Broncos that my "long" 9 month wait on the waiting list was over. Detroit needs to watch out because this can happen with the upsurge of the Tigers and the consistent play of the Pistons. Add bad economy in Detroit and RWs might be in trouble. 24ChampBailey, I hate cats so let us hope the Ducks continue to embarass the Kings and their fans! Maybe this is why Mock hasnt been around. After game one, Beezer was taken by the Almighty.

06-03-2007, 12:37 AM	#1463
24champ Livin' the dream! Methwolfe Alliance Captain Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 18,538 Adopt-a-Bronco: DomCasual	Senators win game 3 and Pronger has a good chance of getting suspended again...

06-03-2007, 01:09 PM	#1465
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,558	Of course he'll take his time. He thrives on this whole torture the fans business.

06-03-2007, 10:37 PM	#1469
Man-Goblin Giving You The Business Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 5,588 Adopt-a-Bronco: Woodyard	Has anyone noticed the prime coverage ESPN has been giving the finals on their home page since the finals started? I have no inside information or anything, but the pattern seems to suggest that they are going to be picking up the NHL on some level next year. This would be a GREAT thing. Has anyone heard anything about this? I just find it very hard to believe that they would be pimping it so hard, even on SportsCenter, and not have something in the works.

06-04-2007, 05:36 AM	#1472
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings My Dog Richard Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lake Forest, Orange County, Calif. Posts: 18,458 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	I must agree on the dirty hit. As discussed b4 on his height advantage on the boarding call, he knows the elbow/checking is at a face/neck level. In SC, he would need to pull a Bertuzzi to get more than a one gamer.