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Old 05-24-2007, 12:53 AM   #1401
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If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.

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Old 05-24-2007, 03:33 AM   #1402
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Big news....Predators sold!

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The NHL in Nashville is on shaky ground.
Great news for Kariya. First his first team that he bailed out on after taking them the first time to the finals is now going again while he got bounced in the first round and now his hick town team is in trouble. Have fun Paul.
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What a cluster ****. I don't like either team in the Finals. Geez.
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Great news for Kariya. First his first team that he bailed out on after taking them the first time to the finals is now going again while he got bounced in the first round and now his hick town team is in trouble. Have fun Paul.
Little bitter?
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Congrats to the Colorado Eagles. At least some team around here has something to put in the trophy case.

Hey Montana - Peter Forsberg sightings all over town. Apparently he still has a residency here in Denver. Come on July 1.
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he's trying out some new skates....

Whether or not it's with the Avs, Forsberg will return

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Congrats to the Colorado Eagles. At least some team around here has something to put in the trophy case.

Hey Montana - Peter Forsberg sightings all over town. Apparently he still has a residency here in Denver. Come on July 1.
So we can be let down yet again? This is just cruel. I can't even get my hopes up again.

Damnit, they already are whether I want to admit it or not.
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Crosby, Malkin win Sporting News awards

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By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

In what is becoming a pattern, Penguins center Sidney Crosby was named Player of the Year by the Sporting News in a vote among league players.

Crosby, 19, who won the Art Ross Trophy as the NHL scoring leader for 2006-07 with 120 points, received 110 of 210 votes from his peers. He also was named the magazine's All-Star center.

NHL players voted Penguins forward Evgeni Malkin the Sporting News Rookie of the Year. He garnered 121 of 210 votes after getting 85 points as a 20-year-old first-year NHL player.

The Penguins' Michel Therrien finished second to Nashville's Barry Trotz in Coach of the Year voting, which was a poll of league coaches.

Crosby earlier was named the top player by The Hockey News.

The NHL season awards will be announced during the league's annual soiree June 14 in Toronto. Crosby, Malkin and Therrien are finalists.
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If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.

Iam with ya on on this jori i would love to see either of those cities get another franchise.
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A declaration in this space two weeks ago that the Ducks would defeat the Red Wings in the Western Conference finals and that Detroit could no longer call itself Hockeytown because games at Joe Louis Arena weren't selling out generated hundreds of impassioned responses.

Some were even free of obscenities.

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Red Wings fans, many of whom listed return addresses in Arizona, Texas or Tennessee, indignantly defended their team and the city's puck passion. The NHL may have a comparatively small audience south of the Canadian border, but its followers are unmatched in their devotion.

But a disappointing number of those "fans" channeled that passion into hate and skipped rational arguments to spew sexist venom.

A sampling, minus the expletives but with spelling and grammar intact:

"If Detroit wins, your gonna be gettiing a [ton] more emails from me you [prostitute]. Why don't you report on your own teams from now on. Like the Kings, where are they? Or the Lakers? Women should stick to writing articles about cooking and homemaking and NOT sports, cuz its obvious you have no idea what....you are talking about, [Don Imus word]."

"You have no idea what your baby ducks are in for! A woman writing about hockey in southern California! Leave the hockey to us sweetheart!"

"You are one cocky writer. I am going to remember that damn story and if the wings win the series, I'm gonna laugh in your face via e-mail. If there's one kind of writer I have no respect for, it's a writer exactly like you who writes worthless like that.

"I'm surprised your man let you out of the kitchen long enough to write this article. You don't know much about sports, so you should stick to cleaning the house."

"Of course what do women know about hockey anyway. Go back to the kitchen and make me something to eat."

Which segues into a proposed menu:

"Stick to what you in California know intimately. Granola."

And insults directed at L.A.:

"You just showed on little you know about hockey write about something you know like smog, gangs, traffic, pollution. Stuff everyone in LA can relate too."

Then there was the generic curse:

"Burn in Hockey Hell."

The Ducks eliminated the Red Wings in six games and advanced to the Stanley Cup finals, but the idea here isn't to gloat.

It's to suggest that the unprecedented torrents of anger sent this way are better aimed at Mike Ilitch, the Red Wings' owner, and the club executives who set playoff ticket prices too high for an area that has been gut-punched by the auto industry's decline, the departure of Comerica Bank's headquarters for Texas and growing unemployment.

The Red Wings didn't sell out any of nine home playoff games, ending a streak of 452 consecutive sellouts. Although the announced attendance was often close to capacity NHL teams announce tickets distributed, not people in the building the large clusters of empty seats told of an economic alienation that will become an emotional divorce if the Red Wings don't return some of the loyalty they've long enjoyed.

The recent success of the Tigers and Pistons has diverted some fans away from the Red Wings. That, coupled with the Red Wings' early playoff exits the last few seasons, left fans cautious about investing their money and hope in a team they weren't sure would go far, especially because the investment required was sizable.

The average regular-season Red Wings ticket cost $43.13, according to Team Marketing Report, but the cheapest first-round playoff ticket was $63 and the top was $144. That increased with each round and topped out at $225 for the conference finals. The Pistons sold 1,000 tickets for the first round at $12 each and their lowest price for the conference finals is $24.

Many fans who sent e-mails this way said they couldn't afford Stanley Cup playoff tickets after they had shared season tickets with friends and built vacations around Red Wings trips. Some felt doubly disrespected because they couldn't get Versus, the obscure cable TV network that had exclusive U.S. rights to the conference finals.

A restaurant manager and longtime Red Wings fan said poor business had led her company to close 10 of its 12 restaurants. She must turn away job applicants every day. "People like us are the true hockey town," she wrote. "We're still here, we're just broke."

Another fan said the slump in the auto industry forces people "to make decisions like whether the car payment gets made or junior gets lunch money this week. The cost of tickets is out of reach for many people who in the past were able to go to these games and cheer the Wings to Lord Stanley's prize."

What happened to the lower ticket prices NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said would accompany the new economic system that he killed the 2004-05 season to get?

The Ducks won the West, but every fan loses when Hockeytown suffers. We share your pain, though not the sexist sentiments.
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CP) - The Ottawa Senators send the best line in the playoffs against the NHL's best trio of defencemen when they face the Anaheim Ducks in the Stanley Cup final.

Game 1 goes Monday night in Anaheim (8 p.m. ET). Centre Jason Spezza and wingers Daniel Alfredsson and Dany Heatley have been the best line in the playoffs, combining for 23 goals and 58 points in 15 games.

The Ducks counter with Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Francois Beauchemin at the blue-line, who have each averaged more than 30 minutes of ice time per game in the post-season.

But the Senators can also defend and have Ray Emery playing above expectations in goal, while Anaheim can also score and have rock-solid Jean-Sebastien Giguere in the net.

Here's a look at how the finalists match up:

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Spezza, Alfredsson and Heatley have scored at least one goal in every playoff game but one and have motored through the best checking lines of Pittsburgh, New Jersey and Buffalo, not to mention solving two of the East's best goalies in Martin Brodeur and Ryan Miller.

They will likely see a lot of Anaheim's excellent checking trio of Samuel Pahlsson, Rob Niedermayer and Travis Moen.

Ottawa hasn't had enough offence from its second line of Mike Fisher, Mike Comrie and Peter Schaeffer (six goals between them), although they've played well defensively.

Anaheim's young second line of Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry and Dustin Penner has been its most dangerous, with Getzlaf emerging as a solid power forward, but Teemu Selanne, Andy McDonald and, of late, Todd Marchant have been inconsistent. They're missing injured Chris Kunitz.

Also, Ottawa uses its fourth line nearly twice as much as Anaheim, keeping its top lines fresher.

Advantage: Ottawa.

Defence

One would likely have to go back to the 1970s Montreal Canadiens to find three defencemen as strong as Pronger, Niedermayer and Beauchemin on one team.

Almost always, at least one of them is on the ice, so their defence is rarely overmanned.

Ottawa has seen shot-blocking aces Chris Phillips and Anton Volchenkov emerge as its top duo and they will likely try to use their size and physical play to counter Getzlaf's line.

If not, Wade Redden and Andrei Meszaros are a strong second duo.

Joe Corvo and Tom Preissing give Ottawa more depth on defence, but Anaheim has the bigger guns.

Advantage: Anaheim.

Goal

Giguere lost his No. 1 ranking after leading Anaheim to the 2003 final, but has won it back with big play in the playoffs. He's 9-3 with a 1.87 goals-against average and a sterling .931 save percentage. He also looks very much in control in his crease.

Ottawa's Ray Emery, who is 12-3 with a 1.95 GAA and a .919 save percentage, has looked steadier and more confident as the playoffs progress but probably won't convince all his detractors until he has a Stanley Cup.

Advantage: Anaheim.

Special teams

The Senators power play has scored on 20 per cent of its chances to 15.3 per cent for Anaheim. Better yet, Ottawa's power play is clicking at 31.2 per cent in road games, where the team is 7-1 in these playoffs.

Penalty killing is close, with Ottawa at 88.6 per cent and Anaheim 87.5 per cent.

Advantage: Ottawa.

Intangibles

The Ducks were in the final in 2003; Ottawa is there for the first time. Neither has ever won.

Anaheim captain Scott Niedermayer has won three Stanley Cups; Ottawa's only ring belongs to backup goalie Martin Gerber.

The Ducks are missing Kunitz, while Ottawa has its full squad healthy.

The Senators are backed by a hockey-mad country, while most of the United States is indifferent to Anaheim.

Advantage: Even.

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The 2007 Stanley Cup finals pairs a juggernaut with few discernible flaws with a could-be juggernaut with a penchant for self-destruction. In other words, the clash between the Ottawa Senators and the Anaheim Ducks has all the makings of a classic. That is, unless the Ducks lose their collective minds, which they have shown the ability to do, and the Senators have their way with them.

At the start of the regular season, there were many who believed Anaheim was capable of arriving at just this point -- the Stanley Cup finals. Not so many thought the Senators would get here. But how the teams arrived here has dramatically changed the perception of both heading into the finals.

The Senators have been virtually flawless in dispatching the Pittsburgh Penguins, New Jersey Devils and the Presidents' Trophy-winning Buffalo Sabres -- all in five games. They have never trailed in a series and are 7-3 in one-goal games. They lead the NHL playoffs with 3.20 goals per game and are third in goals-against, allowing just 2.07 per game.

The penalty kill also has been terrific, allowing just nine power-play goals on 79 opportunities. Against Buffalo, they allowed two power-play goals on 29 attempts. Nine times in their past 13 games, the Sens have not allowed a goal on the man-advantage. They have not lost when they score first. And, they have the most prolific line in the playoffs in Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza and Daniel Alfredsson, who rank 1-2-4, respectively, in playoff scoring with a combined 58 points.

They also boast a deep and talented defensive corps that has been led by the ultimate shut-down duo, Chris Phillips and Anton Volchenkov, who helped neutralize the NHL's highest-scoring team, the Sabres. The Sabres scored just 10 times in five games.

The Ducks, on the other hand, boast a handful of elite players, especially along the blue line, where Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermayer and Francois Beauchemin will all play upwards of 30 minutes a night.

They have Teemu Selanne, a battle-tested warrior looking for his first taste from Lord Stanley's Cup, and an underappreciated netminder in Jean-Sebastien Giguere, who is virtually unstoppable once a game goes to overtime (he is 12-1 in OT, the best record from the start of an NHL career).

But the Ducks' curious effort against the Red Wings sends them to the finals with more than a few question marks. Most notable is whether the Ducks suddenly can develop enough self-discipline to avoid self-immolation and whether their lack of depth will turn out to be an Achilles' heel against a deeper team. It wasn't against the Detroit Red Wings, but it might be against the Senators.

1. Goalie talk. Can we stop all this talk about how Giguere gets no respect? Please. Part of coach Randy Carlyle's master plan is to instill an us-against-the-world mentality in the locker room, but even dim-witted hockey scribes can look at stats and see that Giguere has been other-worldly.

He has a 1.87 GAA and .931 save percentage. When the game was on the line in the third period against Detroit on Tuesday night, Giguere stood tall. The Wings out-shot the Ducks 16-3 in that same period, but Giguere made a handful of stops, often in traffic, to preserve the series-clinching 4-3 victory. We admit, at times, he appears not to know where the puck is, yet he is so technically sound that maybe seeing the puck is overrated. He will be facing a sophomore netminder in Ray Emery, who has emerged as a steady if unspectacular backstopper, who has compiled a 1.95 GAA and .919 save percentage.

Neither netminder handles the puck particularly well, but Emery seems to be more of an all-round adventure. All in all, Giguere gives the Ducks an edge heading into a series where they seem outmatched in other ways.

2. How deep are your lines? Carlyle can talk all he wants about his team being a four-line team. But the bottom line is his fourth line might as well come out to the bench wearing parkas and carrying mugs of hot cocoa to keep warm given the amount of ice time they get.

In Game 6 versus Detroit, Brad May, Joe Motzko and Ryan Carter combined for 9:33 of ice time. Earlier in the series, when Dustin Penner was struggling, the second-line forward saw his ice time dip to just over 10 minutes a night. In short, Carlyle has two offensive lines and his checking line, and that's pretty much it (unless someone sneaks over the boards without him noticing).

The Senators, on the other hand, have received valuable contributions from throughout their forward contingent. Eleven different Ottawa forwards have scored at least one goal as opposed to eight Ducks forwards. No Ottawa player averages 24 minutes in ice time a night, while Pronger, Niedermayer and Beauchemin average more than 30 minutes a night. Over the course of a long series -- and who doesn't expect this one to go at least six games? -- these distinctions might be slight but crucial.

3. The Twin Towers, revisited. During the West finals, it was hard to know what to make of the play from Niedermayer and Pronger. Niedermayer was certainly not at his best. He took ill-advised penalties. He was out of position on a number of Detroit goals. A number of times, Red Wings swooped by him unscathed, which begs the question about his overall health. Still, whatever is ailing him, if anything, Niedermayer produced some magical moments for the Ducks. He scoring in overtime in Game 2 to even the series at 1 and then scored off of Nicklas Lidstrom's stick with less than a minute to go in Game 5, tying the game and setting up Selanne's overtime winner.

Pronger, of course, briefly lost his mind in Game 3, when he slammed Tomas Holmstrom head-first into the glass and was suspended for Game 4. He had only three assists in the five games he played, but was dominant for most of Game 6. His howitzer from the point might not find the mark always (his shot often suggests a new moniker for the team -- "Better duck"), but has been the genesis of many Ducks goals this season.

If Niedermayer can shake whatever it was that was nagging him in the West finals and Pronger can keep his eyes on the prize, the Ducks' chances of success go up dramatically.

4. The goslings. We like to call the Ducks' young forward group of Ryan Getzlaf, Corey Perry and Dustin Penner the goslings even if no one else does. Whatever you call them, if you're the Ottawa Senators, you'd better not ignore them. By the end of the Detroit series, the trio was the most dangerous unit Carlyle sent over the boards. Getzlaf, now a key part of the Ducks' top power-play unit, seemed to grow into his own against Detroit after the top line of Selanne and Andy McDonald suffered the loss of Chris Kunitz (broken hand). Kunitz was replaced by veteran Todd Marchant.

Perry still has a bit of the colt in him, a little gangly, sometimes a little out of sync, but he has grown dramatically from a season ago, when he was a raw rookie in his first NHL playoffs. Getzlaf has emerged even more quickly. Carlyle likes to joke that he doesn't like to hear too much praise for Getzlaf for fear he won't be able to get his helmet on, but most of it is well-earned. Penner struggled the most this spring, sometimes seeing his ice time reduced significantly. To be effective, Penner needs to use his size down low and in front of the net. Facing a considerable depth deficit against Ottawa, the continued production of this young group will be crucial to the Ducks' success.

5. The Captain and his crew. After years of being flayed in the court of public opinion every spring, Ottawa captain Alfredsson suddenly has been elevated to exalted status in the hockey world, especially in Ottawa. He can do no wrong, this plucky Swede. We bet he could even get Canadian politicians to stop picking on Shane Doan if he put his mind to it. Much of the adoration is well-deserved given his spirited play. Not only has he put up points (17), he also has killed penalties and made a handful of eye-popping defensive plays. Whenever the Senators have hit even the slightest wobble, Alfredsson has led by example in the next game or the next shift.

His linemates are no different. Heatley has continued to shine in the playoffs, a more complete player than many could have imagined. Spezza's maturity as these playoffs have progressed has been a revelation. Are they slowing down? Hardly. Against Buffalo, the three combined for 21 points against the NHL's best regular-season team. Heatley has registered a point in 13 of 15 postseason games, while Spezza and Alfredsson have been shut out only three times this spring. Buffalo's only win in the East finals was the only game this top line was held pointless. The Ducks' challenge is not necessarily defusing the prolific trio, but trying to ensure that they don't become difference-makers every night

• Pahlsson-Niedermayer-Moen versus Sens: The tenacious play of the Ducks' defensive line of Samuel Pahlsson, Rob Niedermayer and Travis Moen forced Detroit coach Mike Babcock to split up his dynamic duo of Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg. It worked to the Wings' advantage in Game 3, but the Ducks' defensive specialists were ultimately able to keep the Wings' top guns at bay long enough to ensure a series victory. That challenge pales in comparison to trying to shut down the Heatley-Spezza-Alfredsson trio. Watch for the Ducks' unit to try and disrupt things deep in the Ottawa zone and prevent the group from generating speed through the neutral zone.

• Ducks: Selanne has six points in his last three games, including the overtime winner in Game 5 against Detroit. Prior to that, he had gone four games without a point. McDonald has scored just once in the last nine playoff games.

• Senators: Alfredsson has 10 postseason goals, including the series-clinching overtime marker against Buffalo in Game 5. He had never scored more than seven times in any one playoff year before this season. The Senators' power play has run dry of late, going three straight games without a man-advantage marker.

Too much depth, too much "big line" and too much karma give the Senators their first Stanley Cup. Ottawa in six.

Scott Burnside is the NHL writer for ESPN.com.
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Pretty amazing number, since 2003 ottawa and the ducks have the most playoff wins of any team maybe mondays game is destiny.

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Is gary bettman and the NHL desicion makers stupid? game 1 on memorial day?

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What gets you more in the mood to watch a hockey game than 80 degrees and sun on Memorial Day? And what better way to cap off the day that has come to signify the beginning of summer than to sit in front of the TV and watch a hockey game?

In Los Angeles.

At 5 p.m.

OK, so it's actually Anaheim. But it's still Memorial Day and the NHL will be playing the first game of its showcase series while America and maybe even most of Canada is sitting outside watching the glow of the dying embers in their charcoal grills and drinking their last holiday beer. In Anaheim, they'll be just dropping the first hamburgers on to the grill at about the same time the referee is dropping the puck.

Do you think anybody at the NHL sees any irony in the fact that its final championship series opens on the same day that swimming pools all over America open?

It will be 8 p.m. in the Eastern Time zone when the Ducks and Ottawa Senators start skating and most normal people will be soaking up the holiday weekend's last hour of sunlight.

On Tuesday, newspapers all over America will be filled with columns laughing at the putrid TV ratings for the first game of the Stanley Cup Final and talking about what an obscure, niche sport hockey has become.

The NHL deserves the terrible ratings that all of the games will get just as it deserved to have NBC drop out of overtime in a series clinching game in Buffalo in favor of 90 minutes of blather leading up to a two minute horse race.

Not only should there be no hockey being played on Memorial Day, there shouldn't be a team in Anaheim. One franchise for the Los Angeles market may be one too many. Two is overkill and overkill is what put the NHL in such an embarrassing position.

Somebody should have been skating around an arena with the Stanley Cup over his head at least two weeks ago and it should have been seen on ESPN not NOT seen on Versus.

Refusing for 10 years to enforce rules that allow the game to be great and an insistence on expanding into places where nobody knows how to spell hockey has given the NHL exactly what it deserves. It's going to take at least 10 more years to recover. It's not that hockey isn't a great sport - it may be the best team sport there is - it's that no sport could overcome a decade of that kind of stupidity and shortsightedness.

* Massachusetts senator John Kerry has been teaming up with New England Patriots linebacker Teddy Bruschi to publicize his introduction of the "Stop Stroke Act". Bruschi suffered a stroke in February 2004 and was able to come back and resume his NFL career. Kerry said, "His courage, tenacity and utter determination on the field and off are nothing short of heroic."

I wonder if Senator Kerry has ever googled this: "HGH (human growth hormone) causes stroke." Try it yourself. I'm not saying Bruschi's stroke may have been caused by HGH. I'm just sayin'....

* Indiana politicians pushed through funding $675 million for a new stadium for the Indianapolis Colts and a big part of the sales pitch was a promise - or at least a strong insinuation - that the NFL would reward the city with a Super Bowl. Indianapolis was in the running for the 2011 game but lost out to Dallas. The new $1 billion stadium there will be able to seat close to 110,000 for the game and at $600 (at least) per ticket, that's a lot more money for the NFL. You can check, but I'm pretty sure there's no plan to refund any of the $675 million to the fine citizens of Greater Indianapolis.

* Come to think of it, maybe the NHL playing hockey on the same day that the baseball season ends in Pittsburgh does make at least a little sense.

John Steigerwald is a sports anchor for KDKA-TV. His colum appears on Saturday.
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If it goes through, I don't think the Predators stand a chance of staying in Nashville. It's a shame that some of the local businesses in the area have offered little support to the team. They have a good fan base, but little corporate support. Whether the team ends up north of the border, it wouldn't shock me. I'd rather see a team in The Peg or back in Quebec City then another one in Ontario.

I'm hoping for the best for Nashville fans.
ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.
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ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.

What exactly did the NHL do to save the pens?
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Old 05-27-2007, 03:53 PM   #1416
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ok so the hockey hotbed of california can have 3 teams but we cant have 3 in ontario ? I can see how drawing from a population of 800,000 would be better then drawing from a population of almost 8 million would be better, im giving a range of 50 miles or so on this. The only downside i see to another ontario team is that the sabres would pretty well be finished.

Altho honestly, if the nhl put half the effort into saving the team in winnipeg as it did saving the penguins there would still be a team there. I can only imagine how happy the people in philly are, not only do they get to pay the penguins salaries thanks to revenue sharing, but now they get to pay for a new arena with there taxes too.
Get it straight - we are paying for it with gambling income - not just a tax. So if you don't gamble, you don't pay for it really. The only thing the NHL did was tell basillie that if he were going to move the pens - it was going to be more trouble than not. Not to mention the pens % for attendance, even when they sucked wasn't as bad as other teams that were better.
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DETROIT - Chris Chelios said he didn't shake hands with the Anaheim Ducks players following the Detroit Red Wings' loss Tuesday in the Western Conference final because he was so overcome with emotion he thought he was going to blackout and throw up.

The veteran defenceman initially went straight to the dressing room, but composed himself enough to come out and shake the hands of Ducks coaches before once again being overwhelmed by the feelings of illness.

"I'm the biggest believer in tradition, in having honour and showing class," Chelios said. "I'm not going to lie and say it's an apology, it's an explanation.

"In all sincerity, I couldn't keep it together the last 20 seconds of the game realizing we were going to get knocked out.

"It was almost like a blackout-type thing going to the room, coming out shaking hands with the coaches and whether you were going to get sick and throw up or start balling your eyes out."

Chelios left the rink by cab, not even waiting to meet some family members or acknowledging Steve Yzerman outside the Honda Center.

The 45-year-old Chelios said the trauma of the loss as well as with trying to deal with the emotional fallout from a double murder at one of his Detroit-area restaurants earlier this season flooded his mind in the game's dying seconds.

"The first thing I thought about a day later is trying to explain things to my sons, because I try to teach them what you're supposed to do," Chelios said.

"I mean this with all sincerity: It was no disrespect to the Ducks, no animosity towards them I couldn't control it.

"I've always tried to do the right thing for my family and the Detroit Red Wings organization. I saw (Anaheim star Teemu) Selanne's quotes and I think he understands I've been through a lot off the ice as well as on the ice.

"The last 20 seconds of that game, there was a lot of things going through my head.

"If I could go out there today and shake all their hands, I would."
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If hasek retires will they become the avs? (plenty of scoring) but no goaltender to keep em in the game.

With almost $32M already committed for next season, the Wings cannot afford to keep Lang if they plan on signing Bertuzzi. While the power forward won't make the same $5.2 million he received this past season, Bertuzzi will still pick up a base salary around the $3 million mark. The Wings want to keep Hasek and if he decides to play another season, he'll re-sign with Detroit. Chelios has already made it clear that he wants to play another year and he'll likely ink a new one-year deal shortly. As for Schneider and Markov... the team would love to keep both, but if they have to choose, they may stick with Schneider.
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DETROIT - Chris Chelios said he didn't shake hands with the Anaheim Ducks players following the Detroit Red Wings' loss Tuesday in the Western Conference final because he was so overcome with emotion he thought he was going to blackout and throw up.

The veteran defenceman initially went straight to the dressing room, but composed himself enough to come out and shake the hands of Ducks coaches before once again being overwhelmed by the feelings of illness.

"I'm the biggest believer in tradition, in having honour and showing class," Chelios said. "I'm not going to lie and say it's an apology, it's an explanation.

"In all sincerity, I couldn't keep it together the last 20 seconds of the game realizing we were going to get knocked out.

"It was almost like a blackout-type thing going to the room, coming out shaking hands with the coaches and whether you were going to get sick and throw up or start balling your eyes out."

Chelios left the rink by cab, not even waiting to meet some family members or acknowledging Steve Yzerman outside the Honda Center.

The 45-year-old Chelios said the trauma of the loss as well as with trying to deal with the emotional fallout from a double murder at one of his Detroit-area restaurants earlier this season flooded his mind in the game's dying seconds.

"The first thing I thought about a day later is trying to explain things to my sons, because I try to teach them what you're supposed to do," Chelios said.

"I mean this with all sincerity: It was no disrespect to the Ducks, no animosity towards them I couldn't control it.

"I've always tried to do the right thing for my family and the Detroit Red Wings organization. I saw (Anaheim star Teemu) Selanne's quotes and I think he understands I've been through a lot off the ice as well as on the ice.

"The last 20 seconds of that game, there was a lot of things going through my head.

"If I could go out there today and shake all their hands, I would."

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Get it straight - we are paying for it with gambling income - not just a tax. So if you don't gamble, you don't pay for it really. The only thing the NHL did was tell basillie that if he were going to move the pens - it was going to be more trouble than not. Not to mention the pens % for attendance, even when they sucked wasn't as bad as other teams that were better.

oh ok, so everybody gets to pay the salaries, but only the gamblers have to pay for the arena, thats much fairer
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for all interested that dont get the game on tv it can be found http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stanleycup2007/streams/
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Quacks take game one 3-2 (great game to watch btw) props to the ducks for shutting down ottawas big guns.

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oh ok, so everybody gets to pay the salaries, but only the gamblers have to pay for the arena, thats much fairer
Wrong again. The state is only giving so much % of the revenue from gambling to cover the commitment towards a new arena. The rest of the cost is run from teh team with concessions, ticket price, etc.
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