Tiny terrier saved kids from pit bulls

[Mr. Trout]

I hate pits and if they became extinct I would not give a flying f***.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by TheDave

I have to agree 100% if these 2 "marauders" were really planning on attacking these kids there is not a snowballs chance in hell that a 15lb JRT is going to stop them. It's about as plausible as me saying that my beagles saved my family from a grizzly bear attack...

I don't know, it may have diverted them enough for the boys to get out of the way which indeed would be "saving them".

[TheDave]

Originally Posted by Bronco_Beerslug

I don't know, it may have diverted them enough for the boys to get out of the way which indeed would be "saving them".

That is possible... but that diversion could only have lasted a few seconds.

JRT bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, etc.
Marauder #1 Huh?
Marauder #2 Chomp!
JRT .............

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

So the new spin is that the media has made pit bulls big,mean,aggressive.

I have had my GREAT DANE attacked by a pit bull. The Pit actually jumped a 5foot fence to go after her.

Pit Bulls are aggressive. That is the breed, just like Great Danes are lazy ;p

Most people who own Pits have a problem with their penius and want to be seen as tough. Deny it all yah want but that is the stone cold truth. Pit Bulls are banned by cities, countys, and most HOA's. Damn media!

To say that ALL pit bulls are dangerous is not true, to say that the VAST majority of them are is. I will stick to a dog that is seen as a dog, not a dog that makes my penius bigger.

Did you say penius? I would think that if you own a great Danes have you have a small penis.

[cutthemdown]

Pit Bull Terriers, Cane Corso, Presa Canario, Neapolitan Mastiffs, Tosa Inu are all great breeds of dogs. They are however not for inexperinced owners. Dogs like this must be socialized as puppy around people and other dogs. Unless you want these dogs to be aggressive you can never encourage aggressive behavior and instead discourage it with daily training sessions. These particular breeds are notorious for testing the owners dominance. The Pitt Bull is actually the least dangerous of these dogs but because they are so prevelent they are in the news the most. Rottwielers are actually easier to train and are usually very obediant dogs. Same with Dobermans. The Germans never bred for fighting as much as hunting and protection. The Japanese Tosa Inu prob the meanest fighting dog in the world. The Japanese did bread for fighting. As did the Italians which is why the Presa can be so mean. In closing I'd just like to say I don't support a ban on any dog breed. This is America and we should be able to have any dog as long as the owner is responsible. When a dog attacks for no reason then it should be put down. Also we have strict liability on dog bites as far as suing someone so you better think twice about having a dog you havent properly trained, that can do the amount of damage as the breeds discussed above can do.

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

labs are the #1 registered dog in the US and have been for about 8 years now, of course they are gonna be the #1 offender as there are more of them.How many of those attacks caused serious injury or death though?Now look at how many pit bull attacks caused serious injury or death. There you will see that pits are dangerous animals when they are not handled and trained correctly. Do they deserve all the blame? No. But they do deserve extreme caution.It's like having a .22 and a .357, when they kill people it's not the guns fault, but which one does the most damage is what's looked at.

dont get me wrong my friend.
im NOT saying labs are bad dogs. not by any stretch. heck, i have one.

what im saying is that stats are misleading, and you showed how with regards to labs.
with regards to pits, its the levels of abuse and neglect, as well as media sensationalism. right here in denver 9news reported a "pitbull" attack some time ago and when it came out that it wasnt a pit they refused to update the story. didnt sound as good.

stats are generally very misleading

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by Rigs11

Pits are dangerous because of their strength. They need extra training and attention.The problem is that all these gangbanging hip hop artists always have them and the kids want to be like them and go out and get them.Where I live there is a park where i walk my labs. Not a day passes that I don't see some 14 year old kid getting dragged down the street by a pit he is supposed to be walking.The kids take their pits to the park and then tie them up while they play soccer. If you go to the pound, more than half of the dogs in there are pits.I'm at the point where I'm scared to walk in the park sometimes.Don't blame the breed, blame the owners but at the same time realize that all dogs have the tendency to bite, with pits there is a greater chance that someone will die because of it.

Exactly.

[Tredici]

Originally Posted by TheDave

I have to agree 100% if these 2 "marauders" were really planning on attacking these kids there is not a snowballs chance in hell that a 15lb JRT is going to stop them. It's about as plausible as me saying that my beagles saved my family from a grizzly bear attack...

If your family haven't been attacked by a grizzly bear then I would tell everyone the Beagles have been doing their job...

We haven't seen one roving predator in our backyard yet. I'm pretty sure the weenies have everything under control.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

thank God some people still have a brain inside their cranium.

1st dobermans, then shepherds, then rots, now pits.
if pits are banned, jerkoffs will get another breed and then THAT breed will be the problem.

at the end of the day, anyone with HALF a brain can see its the people and not the dogs that are the problem.

Here is the problem.

[Tredici]

Originally Posted by TheDave

Wolf Hybrid Yeah, thats not asking for problems

Stupid people. Mating animals that wouldn't occur in nature. You end up with something that doesn't know what it is. But it wants to dig holes a mile deep, run 50 miles a day, and tear up everything it's curious about. Then people can't understand why their "pet" doesn't adapt to apartment life.

What makes a wolf a wolf is it is something you can't own. While they can be domesticated to a point, why? We have to change the magnificent for our own pitiful egos. Just a shame.

[DenverBroncosJM]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

Thats what you have. Wow your a bigger puss then I thought.

all this penis crap from a guy running around bragging on his GREAT DANE think irony here. You just scream pussified metro sexiual.

What you need is a **** filter to help stop yourself from throwing stupid **** out in to the air.

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Hotrod
Self Appointed Expert

Quote:
Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM
If you would be so kind to show where I "bragged". I stated that a pit bull had attacked my great dane....

Im sorry I upset you they do have surgery that will extend your "stuff". Or hell just keep the dog I mean thats an extra 5-6 inches right there!

Hotrod
Self Appointed Expert

Again you've made ZERO arguement. I should have just let your worthless post speak for itself


And I am not making an arguement? I struck a nerve with you which resulted in you getting angry (The why you got angry is pretty clear) and name calling. I fail to see any arguement you have made. I should just let your worthless post speak for itself.

And again you failed to show where I bragged.

Personally I think you are probably a punk b****. So hide being a punk b**** behind your dog. But thats neither here nor there.

[fuzzy]

Originally Posted by TheDave

I have to agree 100% if these 2 "marauders" were really planning on attacking these kids there is not a snowballs chance in hell that a 15lb JRT is going to stop them. It's about as plausible as me saying that my beagles saved my family from a grizzly bear attack...

Dogs aren't going to act in the most efficient or thought-out (they're dogs) manner possible. If another dog was to jump in the way the 2 pits would most definately focus their rage on this new enemy.

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

[QUOTE=Tredici;1574864]Stupid people. Mating animals that wouldn't occur in nature. QUOTE]

I thought this thread was about dogs, not Cheefs fans.

[bendog]

Henry likes to steathily sneak up behind joggers before dawn and suddenly appear about 3 feet away from their right hand and stare at them and then match their gait.

The neighbor's pit bull liked him. The pitbull liked the two people, their second dog and Henry. Everyone else was dead meat walking.

My guess is that the kids' screaming and the JRT barking set the pit bulls into a state of excitement by an unusual situtation, and their predispostion is to attack if confused and excited, unless they've been conditioned to have another response. So, you've got a dog that basically needs "special handling." And yes Dobies were in that category 25 years ago, but the breed was altered by breeding. Unfortunately, pit bulls are not bred in accordance with professional breeding. Their not even recognized as a breed, and that's probably wrong.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

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Hotrod
Self Appointed Expert

Quote:
Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM
If you would be so kind to show where I "bragged". I stated that a pit bull had attacked my great dane....

Im sorry I upset you they do have surgery that will extend your "stuff". Or hell just keep the dog I mean thats an extra 5-6 inches right there!

Hotrod
Self Appointed Expert

Again you've made ZERO arguement. I should have just let your worthless post speak for itself


And I am not making an arguement? I struck a nerve with you which resulted in you getting angry (The why you got angry is pretty clear) and name calling. I fail to see any arguement you have made. I should just let your worthless post speak for itself.

And again you failed to show where I bragged.

Personally I think you are probably a punk b****. So hide being a punk b**** behind your dog. But thats neither here nor there.

So you have me pegged as a jobless punk drug addict living in a trailer park who raises dogs to look tuff?

Bwhahahahahahahahaha

[c_lazy_r]

Originally Posted by fuzzy

Dogs aren't going to act in the most efficient or thought-out (they're dogs) manner possible. If another dog was to jump in the way the 2 pits would most definately focus their rage on this new enemy.

Agreed.

[DenverBroncosJM]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

So you have me pegged as a jobless punk drug addict living in a trailer park who raises dogs to look tuff?

Bwhahahahahahahahaha

Huh?

If anything I was going to assume a politician considering you cannot answer a direct question.

The Drug addict, trailer park, dog breader is a nice touch. But I fail to see where I came even close to saying that...

Now here is an assumption I am going to make you must have all those posts here from defending yourself from yourself. Hell this thread was good for at least 7.

Just let it go. You are beyond making sense and well its almost insluting to myself to argue with you.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

Huh?

If anything I was going to assume a politician considering you cannot answer a direct question.

The Drug addict, trailer park, dog breader is a nice touch. But I fail to see where I came even close to saying that...

Now here is an assumption I am going to make you must have all those posts here from defending yourself from yourself. Hell this thread was good for at least 7.

Just let it go. You are beyond making sense and well its almost insluting to myself to argue with you.

Politician seriously low blow.

I still say your a p***Y ass b**** thou

[Steve Sewell]

There is no redeeming quality of a pitbull for any sane person to want to own one.

And @ Jake...pitbulls are DOCILE Please put down the crack pipe.

[chadta]

ya know i never liked it when they banned pitbulls here in ontario a few years ago, thought the dogs were getting a bad rap, i still think that most of the problem is the owners, BUT since theyve banned pit bulls we havent had any stories of kids getting mauled by dogs, so weather its the dogs fault or not i dont really care at least it has stopped.

for you pit bull lovers, would you leave your 2 or 3 little kids with the dog unsupervised ?

if so how bad would you feel if something happened to them ?

if not then why the hell would you let the dogs loose with my kids ?

[Steve Sewell]

Originally Posted by TheDave

Wolf Hybrid Yeah, thats not asking for problems

...we had a Wolf/Husky when I was a kid. It wanted to stay outside at night, even when it was freezing cold, and would howl at the moon. We had to put him down after owning him for 5 or 6 years because he almost took my Dad's finger off. He was my favorite pet as a child...we put a lot of thought into his name..."Lobo"

EDIT: I should note that Lobo was a stray dog that we thought was a pure Husky initially. He was just a puppy when we got him. My dad is an animal lover and all of our pets were either strays or ones that were going to be put to sleep at the pound. Either that or he is just a cheap bastard...probably a combination of both.

[azbroncfan]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

Don't bother. As soon as the dog haters get the pit bulls taken away, they'll go after German Shepards and other "aggressive" breeds next.

I think ROTs are next as I think they have past Pits for most human deaths recently.

[Steve Sewell]

Originally Posted by cutthemdown

Pit Bull Terriers, Cane Corso, Presa Canario, Neapolitan Mastiffs, Tosa Inu are all great breeds of dogs. They are however not for inexperinced owners. Dogs like this must be socialized as puppy around people and other dogs. Unless you want these dogs to be aggressive you can never encourage aggressive behavior and instead discourage it with daily training sessions. These particular breeds are notorious for testing the owners dominance. The Pitt Bull is actually the least dangerous of these dogs but because they are so prevelent they are in the news the most. Rottwielers are actually easier to train and are usually very obediant dogs. Same with Dobermans. The Germans never bred for fighting as much as hunting and protection. The Japanese Tosa Inu prob the meanest fighting dog in the world. The Japanese did bread for fighting. As did the Italians which is why the Presa can be so mean. In closing I'd just like to say I don't support a ban on any dog breed. This is America and we should be able to have any dog as long as the owner is responsible. When a dog attacks for no reason then it should be put down. Also we have strict liability on dog bites as far as suing someone so you better think twice about having a dog you havent properly trained, that can do the amount of damage as the breeds discussed above can do.

I love the "this is America" argument that seemingly would prohibit the government from passing any laws that would infringe on the rights of citizens regardless of whether that right resulted in a public safety hazard.

"This is America"...I should be able to have a meth lab in my back yard as long as I'm responsible.
"This is America"...I should be able to have a loaded AK-47 on me when I drink beer on my front porch as long as I'm responsible.
"This is America"...I should be able to have nuclear waste barrels buried in my backyard.

The list could go on, but haven't the statistics proven that pit bulls are BY FAR the most hazardous dog when it comes to public safety? I've heard tons of reports about pit bull maulings where it was their first ever attack and it lived in a loving home. You can't ignore statistics like the one's slug posted by saying, "oh that's just the ones with the bad owners". Which is probably the reason why the majority of the Libertarian crowd failed to appropriately respond to them.

Seriously, there is no point in owning a pit bull. There are literally thousands of other breeds out there to choose from, but you choose...the most dangerous breed available by a wide margin. Think about how stupid that sounds...

[broncolife]

Originally Posted by shakenbake

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapc...rss_topstories



"George tried to protect us by barking and rushing at them, but they started to bite him -- one on the head and the other on the back," Rosewarne said. "We ran off crying and some people saw what was happening and rescued .

Umm whose fault is it again? All the dogs were off the leash and who was rushing at the other dogs? Now if the kid had been bit then it would be a different story. I work at a vet.Small dogs can be very aggresive to, but we always seem to laugh when they want to take on a big dog. I cant count how many times I am walking a dog past one of the small dogs run and they try biting the dog through the run. We have a Great Dayne that comes in all the time because it gets it arse kicked by a Boston terrier. I have seen some good Pitts but I have also seen some nutballs. .At my work we seem to fear Pitts ,Chows, and chihuahuas more than most of the other breeds when it comes to biting. Sense they have a upredicatablity factor to them. I have been bit by a chow and almost have been bitten by a ton of other breeds including
Pitt,Rotty,chihuahua,Lab,Golden retriever(only mean one I have met),Mutts,Boston,Toy Poodle,Shepards,Pug,Great Dayne, and some others. Some of these dogs just try biting right off the bat no matter how nice you are, but also some of the dogs dont like being restrained for certain things we were doing to them.I just love it when a owner says my dog is nice he will never bite(or some crap like that) and soon as I put my hand out slowly so the dog can sniff it, he trys to bite.If any of you plan on doing this type of job make sure you dont scar easy because the chance of being bit at least once is high and the chance of being scratched is a gaurantee 100% chance. You just dont know how many you will get that week.

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by Steve Sewell

There is no redeeming quality of a pitbull for any sane person to want to own one.

And @ Jake...pitbulls are DOCILE Please put down the crack pipe.

i hate to be mean, but you sound flat out idiotic making that statement.
ive got two of 'em pal, and im guessing you dont.

www.dogbreedinfo.com
theyre rated in the top category with reliability w/ children and strangers, and every other neutral source of information says the same thing.
sounds like ALOT of really insane people huh?
or maybe youre just uneducated on the subject. thats okay, but you might wanna get some info besides an occasional sensationalized news story before calling people insane.

our dogs smile when we walk through the door. they like to spoon. they get their feelings hurt when disciplined (they remember long after. really cute). they start shaking when they hear people yelling. theyve never even SNAPPED at a person let alone bit someone. theyre afraid of my sisters cat and the older one ran to me whimpering when my dads spaniel went after him.
they like to go for rides in the car, and will lay their heads in our laps while we're driving. they pose for pictures, they eat almost daintily (also very cute. unlike a typical dog that swallows food whole), and the younger one consistently accompanies my wife to her hair salon where the kids from the neighboring karate studio cant wait to come play with him and/or take him for a walk after their workout.

get a clue before insulting people.