Tiny terrier saved kids from pit bulls

[Hotrod]

Were the boys given a ticket for not having their dog on a leash.

[KipCorrington25]

It should be "anti pit," they attacked a group of kids and mauled a dog to death.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by rugbythug

Yeah we should take your word for it over the kids who were there.

Well I have to agree with Jake, if those pit bulls had any desire to attack the kids they would have. They would have gone right after them and the little terrier would have been like a flea getting in the way.

I've got an American Bulldog and I walk him on a community trail everyday. He is as playful and non-aggressive as they come. But not a day goes by where we don't pass by another dog walker that has a little ankle biting dog that the owner is holding back because it is barking and trying to charge my dog. I don't think my dog even has it in him to fight but you know damn good and well that if he ever retaliated to one of those little yip, yip dogs biting him it would be ugly and everyone would blame the big dog that didn't start it. Owners of small dogs don’t properly discipline them because they think it is “cute” and don’t feel like they are any danger to any one so as a result they are usually the most aggressive and poorly behaved dogs.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

the whole thing, but whatever. im too tired and too angry.

"two marauding pits." there's no slant there right?
no bias?

gimme a break. its a fvkking 11 year olds IDEA of what happened and a writers anti pit spin.
you think this little damn terrier is gonna keep two "marauding" pits away from a luscious 4 year old prey? uh huh. okay.

its bull**** through and through, and it just further perpetuates the lies already being spread about the breed.

further, if we STOP fvkkkers like vick from breeding these dogs, then we'll only be left with loving owners, and of course EVERY neutral source agrees that the breed is NOT by nature violent, so all these stories (many arent stories, some are) stop.

what happens if vicks 66 dogs had gotten out?
then pitbulls would be called "marauders" because THOSE pits have the potential to get confused and attack, when in reality ANY breed abused and starved and bred for fighting would be unpredictable.

again, why didnt we hear about pits in the 60's, 70's, 80's, and much of the 90's?
because then it was dobermans or rottys that took the bad rap. THOSE were the dogs that a$$holes bought so they could put a studded collar on 'em and try to make themselves feel tough. now its pits, and it fvkkking pisses me off considering the breed is by nature smart, loving, and EXTREMELY docile.

make sense?

Its because they are the current "headline grabber".

[Bronco_Beerslug]

Originally Posted by kamakazi_kal

where? link?

I posted the link for how many deaths each breed was responsible for in the Pit Bull thread.

Originally Posted by Hotrod

Its because they are the current "headline grabber".

It's because their attacks are so vicious and so many "fine" citizens in urban areas possess them.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by KipCorrington25

It should be "anti pit," they attacked a group of kids and mauled a dog to death.

I dont buy that for a second. Those two pits would not have been stopped. I would not be surprised to find out that the little ankle bitter was the aggresser in this case.

[kamakazi_kal]

[QUOTE=orange 4 life;1574629]
further, if we STOP fvkkkers like vick from breeding these dogs, then we'll only be left with loving owners, and of course EVERY neutral source agrees that the breed is NOT by nature violent
QUOTE]

most people dont understand that alot of these "breeder" are inbreeding the dogs over and over to try and get the biggest bulkiest dog they can regardless of disposition or nature.

in general even the fighting dogs had this bread out of them. the whole point back in the day was to have the dog be dog aggressive human friendly so it could be handled

[Sir Mawn]

I love dogs but I'm not a fan of Pits... or Bull Terriers for that matter. That being said, you still can't overgeneralize and say all Pits, Bulls, or Russels behave the same way.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by Hotrod

I dont buy that for a second. Those two pits would not have been stopped. I would not be surprised to find out that the little ankle bitter was the aggresser in this case.

I love all animals and hate to see any of them get injured but it is often the insecure little dogs that are the aggressors and start many scrums.

Here in Indy they have what they call the Mutt Strut which is a big fund raiser for the Humane Society where people pay $25 plus raise additional funds to walk their dog around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. It was this last Sunday. Over 2,500 people brought their dogs. It was an amazing sight. And more amazing was how well all the dogs behaved amongst the crowding and excitement. With people standing in long registration lines and all their dogs packed in together I expected a bunch of issues. But only saw two minor scrums and both were started by little ankle biters being aggressive. I saw tons of pit bulls and all extremely well behaved

[watermock]

Originally Posted by -Slap-

If the members of your community had a clue you were a remorseless cat rapist, they would surely ostracize more than they do already.

Your such a collossal dickhead. go suck off the dead dog on your avatar.

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by shakenbake

Yea little george sure looks like a killer. Even if George is "Much more likely to bite a human" his bites aren't going to kill anyone.

my dogs smiling faces dont look like that of a killer either, but im glad you mentioned that.

you believe that little dog is gonna prevent two "marauding" pits from attacking a kid?
you ACTUALLY think that he "saved" those kids?
use your head. you too mock. unless YOU saw those dogs go after the kid, then YOU shut the fvvvkk up.
if those dogs wanted the kid, that 25 pound furball wasnt gonna stop 'em.
thing is, they DIDNT want the kid. they wanted the dog, but because there were two kids there a complete non story about 3 dogs fighting turns into "cute little georgie saves 2 kids from 'marauding' pits out for blood".
yeah okay.

i dont doubt that some negligent owner let his pits out and i dont doubt that they couldve fought with georgie here, but no damn way george stops them from attacking a kid.

have you ever seen an attack dog attack?
if so, and if you still believe that quarter pounder of a dog stopped them from attacking a kid, then ive got some beachfront property in arizona for sale.

[kamakazi_kal]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Well I have to agree with Jake, if those pit bulls had any desire to attack the kids they would have. They would have gone right after them and the little terrier would have been like a flea getting in the way.

I've got an American Bulldog and I walk him on a community trail everyday. He is as playful and non-aggressive as they come. But not a day goes by where we don't pass by another dog walker that has a little ankle biting dog that the owner is holding back because it is barking and trying to charge my dog. I don't think my dog even has it in him to fight but you know damn good and well that if he ever retaliated to one of those little yip, yip dogs biting him it would be ugly and everyone would blame the big dog that didn't start it. Owners of small dogs don’t properly discipline them because they think it is “cute” and don’t feel like they are any danger to any one so as a result they are usually the most aggressive and poorly behaved dogs.

i cant believe i agree with a chief fan - rep

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I love all animals and hate to see any of them get injured but it is often the insecure little dogs that are the aggressors and start many scrums.

Here in Indy they have what they call the Mutt Strut which is a big fund raiser for the Humane Society where people pay $25 plus raise additional funds to walk their dog around the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. It was this last Sunday. Over 2,500 people brought their dogs. It was an amazing sight. And more amazing was how well all the dogs behaved amongst the crowding and excitement. With people standing in long registration lines and all their dogs packed in together I expected a bunch of issues. But only saw two minor scrums and both were started by little ankle biters being aggressive. I saw tons of pit bulls and all extremely well behaved

Thats what my experiances have been also.

I have a 1/2 pit 1/2 ?? and a 1/2 Aus Sheppard 1/2 Blue heeler...both are medium sized dogs. A friend has 2 freaking ankle biters (I dont know what the hell they are) but when all 4 are around each other those little bastages are trying to get at my dogs... The poor girls just look at me like "can I just kick their arses just once" or "You've got to be kidding me"

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by Canmore

Pit bulls were bred to fight. Why do you think Michael Vick had 66 of them. It wasn't because they are a "nice" doggie. If you want a reliable guard dog get a German Shepard or a Malinois.

they were bred for TWO things.

1) to fight other dogs. youre correct there.

2) to be a companion for humans.

the are naturally aggressive towards other dogs (though can be broken of the tendency if socialized from a young age) and naturally EXTREMELY passive towards humans. its for that reason that they are poor guard dogs.

if you want a guard dog, get a shepherd.
if you want a 30-90 lb. lap dog that will choose affection over food, then get an american pitbull terrier.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

The dogs that are most responsible

Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.

Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."

One of the most detailed studies of dog attacks in the USA is Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006.

[Hotrod]

This is a waste of time. People have labeled Pits as the boogy man. Some are just stupid others just believe everything the papers feed them.

[orange 4 life]

neither of my 2 pits have ever even SNAPPED at a human let alone actually bit.

my lab on the other hand (raised in the same home since he was a pup) has snapped at me, my son (put a scratch on him that made my wife and i a bit jumpy), my father, and even at almost 9 years old now the vet just last month.

......but pits are "vicious marauders".
yeah whatever.

for the umpteenth time, go to ANY neutral website and/or talk to your local vets and groomers. they will all tell you the same thing.

www.dogbreedinfo.com

search by breed. reliabilty with strangers. reliability with children.
interesting reading.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

[orange 4 life]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Well I have to agree with Jake, if those pit bulls had any desire to attack the kids they would have. They would have gone right after them and the little terrier would have been like a flea getting in the way.

I've got an American Bulldog and I walk him on a community trail everyday. He is as playful and non-aggressive as they come. But not a day goes by where we don't pass by another dog walker that has a little ankle biting dog that the owner is holding back because it is barking and trying to charge my dog. I don't think my dog even has it in him to fight but you know damn good and well that if he ever retaliated to one of those little yip, yip dogs biting him it would be ugly and everyone would blame the big dog that didn't start it. Owners of small dogs don’t properly discipline them because they think it is “cute” and don’t feel like they are any danger to any one so as a result they are usually the most aggressive and poorly behaved dogs.

thanks for bringing some logic into the thread. much appreciated.

[Bronco_Beerslug]

It's obvious to everyone that Pit Bulls and Rotts are the most dangerous (BY FAR) dogs.

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The dogs that are most responsible

Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.

Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."

One of the most detailed studies of dog attacks in the USA is Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006.

[orange 4 life]

[QUOTE=kamakazi_kal;1574645]

Originally Posted by orange 4 life

further, if we STOP fvkkkers like vick from breeding these dogs, then we'll only be left with loving owners, and of course EVERY neutral source agrees that the breed is NOT by nature violent
QUOTE]

most people dont understand that alot of these "breeder" are inbreeding the dogs over and over to try and get the biggest bulkiest dog they can regardless of disposition or nature.

then they abuse those dogs.
amazing so many dont see this.
ban the owners, not the breed. make harsher laws for fighting (i had no idea it was HUNDREDS of thousands being wagered at one of these "events") and stop the problem.

[DenverBroncosJM]

So the new spin is that the media has made pit bulls big,mean,aggressive.

I have had my GREAT DANE attacked by a pit bull. The Pit actually jumped a 5foot fence to go after her.

Pit Bulls are aggressive. That is the breed, just like Great Danes are lazy ;p

Most people who own Pits have a problem with their penius and want to be seen as tough. Deny it all yah want but that is the stone cold truth. Pit Bulls are banned by cities, countys, and most HOA's. Damn media!

To say that ALL pit bulls are dangerous is not true, to say that the VAST majority of them are is. I will stick to a dog that is seen as a dog, not a dog that makes my penius bigger.

[Rigs11]

Pits are dangerous because of their strength. They need extra training and attention.The problem is that all these gangbanging hip hop artists always have them and the kids want to be like them and go out and get them.Where I live there is a park where i walk my labs. Not a day passes that I don't see some 14 year old kid getting dragged down the street by a pit he is supposed to be walking.The kids take their pits to the park and then tie them up while they play soccer. If you go to the pound, more than half of the dogs in there are pits.I'm at the point where I'm scared to walk in the park sometimes.Don't blame the breed, blame the owners but at the same time realize that all dogs have the tendency to bite, with pits there is a greater chance that someone will die because of it.

[DenverBroncosJM]

I disagree that it is only their strength. My danes are strong the next door has a mastiff that dog is strong as hell.

So if strength is the deciding factor on danger these dogs should be right up there with Pit Bulls. They are not because the breed is NOT AGGRESIVE. Pit Bulls are aggressive coupled with being strong and you have the stats that someone above posted.

[Hotrod]

Originally Posted by DenverBroncosJM

So the new spin is that the media has made pit bulls big,mean,aggressive.

I have had my GREAT DANE attacked by a pit bull. The Pit actually jumped a 5foot fence to go after her.

Pit Bulls are aggressive. That is the breed, just like Great Danes are lazy ;p

Most people who own Pits have a problem with their penius and want to be seen as tough. Deny it all yah want but that is the stone cold truth. Pit Bulls are banned by cities, countys, and most HOA's. Damn media!

To say that ALL pit bulls are dangerous is not true, to say that the VAST majority of them are is. I will stick to a dog that is seen as a dog, not a dog that makes my penius bigger.

Well there ya go folks this guy has the "stone cold truth" about such things.

What a ****ing joke you are. Heres some "stone cold truth" your a nappy headed ho. I have just as much proof as you do with your retarded "penis size" crack. Actually ask your wife she'll explain your shortcomings to ya.