NBA - top rated West teams face doom? - Page 2 - The Orange Mane

Rock Chalk · 04-19-2007, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

Hey T-Mac! You got one of these?

Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-19-2007, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

Not only that, but they would be guaranteed to go home by at least early May.

Rock Chalk · 04-19-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Not only that, but they would be guaranteed to go home by at least early May.

Yeah yeah, not this year.

Championship this year.

Clockwork Orange · 04-19-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Take a poll of anyone in the league on who they would rather play with: AI, Melo or T-Mac.

It would be unanimous for T-Mac. Because not only is he a baller way better than AI, but he is unselfish and a great teammate.

I'll bet the teammates that Iverson carried to the NBA Finals in 2001 would choose AI.

Now, let's compare that to all of the players T-Mac has helped get out of the first round on any of the three teams he's played for in his career.

All none of them.

M-G · 04-19-2007, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

To me, the X-factor for the Nuggets will be the shooting of Steve Blake, JR Smith and Linas Kleiza. The Spurs are going to clog the paint, that's a given. They're going to double Carmelo every time he gets the ball in the post and they'll send extra defenders to cut off Iverson's lanes to the basket. It's going to be up to the aforementioned trio to knock down the open shots they're going to get when the Spurs defense collapses on Iverson & Anthony. If they can do that with some consistency, the Nuggets can make a series of it.

I don't think Smith sees much, if any, time in the playoffs. Baring major foul trouble, I think Karl wants to use a 7-man rotation.

Clockwork Orange · 04-19-2007, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Man-Goblin

I don't think Smith sees much, if any, time in the playoffs. Baring major foul trouble, I think Karl wants to use a 7-man rotation.

I think they're gonna have to use him. Parker & Ginobli are pretty adept at driving to the basket and drawing contact. Well, Ginobli's pretty good at making the officials believe there was contact anyway.

Rock Chalk · 04-19-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

I'll bet the teammates that Iverson carried to the NBA Finals in 2001 would choose AI.

Now, let's compare that to all of the players T-Mac has helped get out of the first round on any of the three teams he's played for in his career.

All none of them.

All....let me repeat...ALL of those teams T-Mac was on were paled in comparison to the TEAM AI was on when they got to the finals.

Last year's Rockets hardly counted as T-Mac was out over half the season and they still took the West's best in the Mavs to 7.

DeusExManning · 04-19-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Shakin' in my tennies, there bub.

The Golden State Warriors scare the crap out of me.

This is the same team (but better) that beat San Antonio on their own floor in game 7 last season. They arent afraid of jack, son. You can roll whoever you want out there.

The Warriors have won 5 straight, Nellie knows how to control Dirk, their short lineup will give them problems. This will go seven, I would not be surprised if the Warriors take it, they have played well since their trade. They will be caught looking ahead.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-19-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Yeah yeah, not this year.
Championship this year.

Um...probably not. Maybe next year...or something like that.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-19-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DeusExShanahan

The Warriors have won 5 straight, Nellie knows how to control Dirk, their short lineup will give them problems. This will go seven, I would not be surprised if the Warriors take it, they have played well since their trade. They will be caught looking ahead.

The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Clockwork Orange · 04-19-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alec

All....let me repeat...ALL of those teams T-Mac was on were paled in comparison to the TEAM AI was on when they got to the finals.

OK, let's look at the worldbeaters Iverson played alongside in 2001.

Theo Ratliff, Dikembe Mutombo, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Toni Kukoc, Matt Geiger, Rodney Buford, Vernon Maxwell, Jumaine Jones, Todd MacCulloch, Kevin Ollie, Nazr Mohammed, Roshown McLeod, Raja Bell, Pepe Sanchez and Anthony Miller.

Yeah, that was Murderer's Row alright.

M-G · 04-20-2007, 12:47 AM

I don't really like T-Mac either. I'm not sure what it is but he has always kinda bothered me. Maybe it's because he makes it look so easy out there (when he's healthy) and he almost looks lethargic during the game (right down to that silly, stoner look on his face all the time). I have no doubt he's playing his ass off, but when compared to Iverson, who because of his stature has to play with a reckless abandon, there is just something missing there.

Like Alec, I read the Simmons MVP article on ESPN.com, and I have to say I was really surprised to see what he wrote about T-Mac; to the point that I re-read it to check for sarcasm. I have never viewed him as much a defensive player and always thought he was kind of selfish out there. And sure, if you compare him to Vince Carter he's an angel, but who isn't?

Maybe I'm wrong, a homer, or whatever, but I would take Melo over him anyday (Anthony hasn't even hit his prime yet) and I think it's an absolute joke to even compare T-Mac to Iverson when he was in his prime (when AI's career is over he will be considered one of the top 25 players OAT).

ZONA · 04-20-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

I thought Nash was supposed to be able to raise the work production of every member of the franchise? If that's the case than it doesnt matter if Stoudemire is out there or not, right?

Now you're being a retard. He's the reason a team full of guards and small forwards went as far as they did in the first place last year. It's well known by everybody here you hate Nash but don't get all stupid on us now. How well would have Dallas played this year if Dirk missed the whole season and then take away somebody like Dampier for the last part of the season and where are the Mavs then? Take away Duncan and another post player for the Spurs and do they get the West finals? Point Made! This isn't about how good Nash is, it's about how much better the team is suited for a real playoff push with a low post force like Amare.

I hope Dirk goes down during the 1st game of the playoffs and misses the rest of the season and then maybe you might understand what I mean.

ZONA · 04-20-2007, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Are you talking about the playoff Mavs that collapsed in the finals?

You're making a huge mental mistake if you think Golden State is gonna just lay down for a team they have rolled many times this season. They are getting on a real hot trend over the past month and they have some guys that can flat out score on anybody. They are fast, athletic and can shoot lights out. Matter of fact, I would rather play LA, Denver, Utah, Houston before Golden State. Damn straight.

maven · 04-20-2007, 01:03 AM

Tim Duncan couldn't have picked a better time to whine before the playoffs. Not only the ref was suspended just before the season ended, the Nuggets are completely screwed in the 1st round in regards to officiating. Spurs win easily. And the refs will help the Spurs easily advance.

epicSocialism4tw · 04-20-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by maven

Tim Duncan couldn't have picked a better time to whine before the playoffs. Not only the ref was suspended just before the season ended, the Nuggets are completely screwed in the 1st round in regards to officiating. Spurs win easily. And the refs will help the Spurs easily advance.

Palms Up 2007 begins Sunday.

azbroncfan · 04-20-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Didn't you say that last year during the finals? I can't wait until the mavs lose just to see how long you dissappear.

rubaiyat · 04-21-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Nuggets4

Dallas wins in 5. I think there will be a close game or two, but not enough to scare the Mavs. I'm more interested in the off-the-court drama.

Suns roll over the Lakers. They're limping into the playoffs. Kobe could score 90 a game and Phoenix should still win. That said, fun series to watch.

Spurs should win in 6. Nugs have the talent to win two, I just hope they do.

Houston should beat Utah. Utah's limping in, T-Mac is determined and Yao is playing some great ball right now.

All that said, every one of those series should be fun to watch. They just won't go 7.

No, that's why Nellie has been saving Foyle. We'll give you 20+ million...you beat up Dirk in the parking lot and get tossed.

They'd use Stephen Jackson, but he's actually important.

Or I suppose they could do what Kings fans did to Kobe except replace food poisoning with whatever welcome mat Oakland can provide.

ZONA · 04-23-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

The real Mavericks are going to roll out onto the floor starting this Sunday. The playoff Mavs that clinically took apart the Western Conference last season are better than they were last year.

They chose the Warriors.

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Well, if those were the REAL Mavericks who rolled out Sunday as you suggested then you are in real trouble my friend. Dallas in 4 games? Just as I said MR. all knowing basketball god, your team does not match up well against Golden State and you could be in some real trouble.

Oh - and I think I predicted the Spurs would be in the same spot as the Mavs right now and that Phoenix would win in 4. I hate being right.

GonzoLays · 04-23-2007, 10:59 AM

, so yea, Nowitzski just added to his playoff legend by going 4 for 16 from the floor last night.

, so yea, the Mavericks are 0-4 against the Warriors this season.

, so yea, this is hilarious.

Hotrod · 04-23-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Im thinking Dallas only wins 1 in this first round.

You all laugh but Dullas aint making it out of this round

I find this interesting

ludo21 · 04-23-2007, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

Im thinking Dallas only wins 1 in this first round.

You all laugh but Dullas aint making it out of this round
btw.. im really gay

yeah, i find that interesting as well....

Hotrod · 04-23-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ludo21

yeah, i find that interesting as well....

I am rather happy to watch them go down in flames.

ludo21 · 04-23-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrod

I am rather happy to watch them go down in flames.
i mean really gay

yeah, should be fun to watch....

Master___Pain · 04-23-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by angryllama

Dallas will win in 4 games.

Oops....

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04-20-2007, 12:47 AM	#37
M-G Kicker and Screamer MGK now, MGK in 2018, MGK Forever! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Broncos Country Posts: 7,236 Adopt-a-Bronco: MGK	I don't really like T-Mac either. I'm not sure what it is but he has always kinda bothered me. Maybe it's because he makes it look so easy out there (when he's healthy) and he almost looks lethargic during the game (right down to that silly, stoner look on his face all the time). I have no doubt he's playing his ass off, but when compared to Iverson, who because of his stature has to play with a reckless abandon, there is just something missing there. Like Alec, I read the Simmons MVP article on ESPN.com, and I have to say I was really surprised to see what he wrote about T-Mac; to the point that I re-read it to check for sarcasm. I have never viewed him as much a defensive player and always thought he was kind of selfish out there. And sure, if you compare him to Vince Carter he's an angel, but who isn't? Maybe I'm wrong, a homer, or whatever, but I would take Melo over him anyday (Anthony hasn't even hit his prime yet) and I think it's an absolute joke to even compare T-Mac to Iverson when he was in his prime (when AI's career is over he will be considered one of the top 25 players OAT).

04-20-2007, 01:03 AM	#40
maven #happy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 13,474	Tim Duncan couldn't have picked a better time to whine before the playoffs. Not only the ref was suspended just before the season ended, the Nuggets are completely screwed in the 1st round in regards to officiating. Spurs win easily. And the refs will help the Spurs easily advance.

04-23-2007, 10:59 AM	#45
GonzoLays Chad Kelly Is The One What? You are picking me, Gonzo? Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kelly's Irish Pub and Daycare Posts: 5,882 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chad Kelly	, so yea, Nowitzski just added to his playoff legend by going 4 for 16 from the floor last night. , so yea, the Mavericks are 0-4 against the Warriors this season. , so yea, this is hilarious.