The verdict is in (at least for me)!

[TailgateNut]

Of the many years I've stomped around the US I've always tried to note things I liked about certain states, and things I hated about certain states.

I've come to the conclusion that California drivers are the biggest jerks on the planet. I say planet, because I doubt their complete disregard for road rules can be surpassed.
Prior to my last road trip I had the NJ/NY drivers rated as the biggest A$$holes.

[Meck77]

California is nuts. In their defense though there are tens of millions of them crammed into the same spot. How could they not be a little crazy on the road?

What's weidr up my way is people don't even use horns. I guess people think it's offensive or something. I lay on mine occasionally when a tourist is doing something dumb. It's funny to see the looks from people on the sidewalks and other cars. It's almost a look of shock....lmao

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Meck77

California is nuts. In their defense though there are tens of millions of them crammed into the same spot. How could they not be a little crazy on the road?

What's weidr up my way is people don't even use horns. I guess people think it's offensive or something. I lay on mine occasionally when a tourist is doing something dumb. It's funny to see the looks from people on the sidewalks and other cars. It's almost a look of shock....lmao

I guess it's the "rudeness factor" which puts them over the top. The state could save untold millions by eliminating all "yield" and "speed limit" signs.
Nobody pays any attention to either of them.

[Donk]

My auto insurance went down when I moved from Colorado to California.

[theAPAOps5]

Originally Posted by Donk

My auto insurance went down when I moved from Colorado to California.

No snow and ice. And there is a place that has California beat hands down, not even close. Italy has THE worst drivers in the world. You don't even want to know what kind of stress it is to drive there. They literally don't use turn signals, when they turn they just do and beep their horn as they go. Its insane watching this in a busy city.

[Jens1893]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

No snow and ice. And there is a place that has California beat hands down, not even close. Italy has THE worst drivers in the world. You don't even want to know what kind of stress it is to drive there. They literally don't use turn signals, when they turn they just do and beep their horn as they go. Its insane watching this in a busy city.

Traffic lights are generally only seen as suggestions and it´s common to park your car on the road with flashing warning lights. It is pretty bad, yes, and I usually feel very uneasy there, at least in the cities. Torino and Genova are nightmares ... thank god I´ve never driven in the Southern Italian cities like Napoli or Palermo .... the secret to driving there without suffering a heart attack is to just go and don´t stop ... if you stop, you lose. And we haven´t even talked about the Vespas yet ...

Italy is the worst I have driven in or seen, but I am not sure whether it´s the worst in the world. Turkey and some other Asian countries are pretty chaotic also.

[theAPAOps5]

Ah yes the Vespas are the worst because they sneak attack your ass. You are getting ready to turn and they come flying up between lanes like they are immune to any semblance of laws. I was in Pisa and it was insane basically the more aggressive you are the better your chances of moving. Turkey has to be up ther but so does Egypt. Egyptians are insane in their driving its like they just aim for their destination and hope for the best.

[Jens1893]

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Ah yes the Vespas are the worst because they sneak attack your ass. You are getting ready to turn and they come flying up between lanes like they are immune to any semblance of laws. I was in Pisa and it was insane basically the more aggressive you are the better your chances of moving. Turkey has to be up ther but so does Egypt. Egyptians are insane in their driving its like they just aim for their destination and hope for the best.

Yep, that´s the main logic ... turn off your brain and never stop as nobody else will and stopping will only provoke an accident. Pisa was pretty harmless IMO ... Torino almost had me screaming and I was only in the backseat.

Egypt is another country where the horn is basically a brake replacement.

[Bronco Yoda]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

Of the many years I've stomped around the US I've always tried to note things I liked about certain states, and things I hated about certain states.

I've come to the conclusion that California drivers are the biggest jerks on the planet. I say planet, because I doubt their complete disregard for road rules can be surpassed.
Prior to my last road trip I had the NJ/NY drivers rated as the biggest A$$holes.

You have to realize that Californians approach speed limits with a 'law of average' mentality. So much of the time your time is spent standing still on a 6 lane fwy that when things open up the adjusted speed limit is 120

A piece of advice to those not use to driving in Cali.... For whatever reason, turn signals are a sign of weakness. Drivers can all be perfectly spaced in smooth flowing light traffic... try putting your signal on and just watch as multiple cars seem to cross four lanes to cut you off. I never got use to that or understood it. Just one of those things.....


Recently I helped set up the wifes parents in their retirement home in New Mexico south of Sante Fe. The Realestate is so strong in regards to investment (even now when everything else is slow) I decided to buy a house here myself.

But talk about your crazy Drivers. Never seen so many Drunks on the Road!!!! I challenge anyone to find a place with more Drunks per Driver average than in New Mexico. I feel safer in L.A or Orange County in 6 lanes of packed traffic than I do here out in the sticks with maybe 4 other drivers at a time....Why? because chances are 2 out of the 4 of those other NM drivers are probably so drunk they couldn't stand if their life depended on it but they're cruising down the road all over the place!!!!!!!! It's a very leal and serious problem here.

[TailgateNut]

It's not a matter of speed or speed limits. I don't mind going 100. I drove in Germany for a few years and LA and SoCal don't even come close to the speeds on the Autobahn. It's a matter of the "dumbass factor" and rudeness of the SoCal drivers.
Maybe they just didn't like my Bronco Country license plates. or the fact that I was vacationing (chillin') while they had to carry their sorry asses to work.

[Jens1893]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

It's not a matter of speed or speed limits. I don't mind going 100. I drove in Germany for a few years and LA and SoCal don't even come close to the speeds on the Autobahn. It's a matter of the "dumbass factor" and rudeness of the SoCal drivers.
Maybe they just didn't like my Bronco Country license plates. or the fact that I was vacationing (chillin') while they had to carry their sorry asses to work.

The roads in Germany are battle zones, albeit disciplined ones compared to Italy, and the speeds here can be really, really dangerous .... especially the huge speed difference you sometimes have between the fast and the slow lane.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Jens1893

The roads in Germany are battle zones, albeit disciplined ones compared to Italy, and the speeds here can be really, really dangerous .... especially the huge speed difference you sometimes have between the fast and the slow lane.

I'll take the roads (drivers) in Germany over the roads (drivers) in CA any day, unless the driving habits in Germany have changed drastically in the past 5 yrs.

RE: the fast lanes. If your car can't keep up, stay out of the fast lane. At least there the fast lane IS the left lane. It's clear!
In CA, the fast lane changes every ten seconds.

[ludo21]

dont forget AZ drivers in weather...

it is lethal..... and scary...

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by ludo21

dont forget AZ drivers in weather...

it is lethal..... and scary...

The main thing I remember about AZ drivers is that they love to use their f-ing horns!

[Spider]

, a topic near and dear to my heart .........big city driving is a hassle coast to coast , worst drivers ever are in South Carolina and Wyoming ... if they keep of accidents , columbia Sc and Cheyenne wyoming have to be the top 2 or close to it ......

[Billy Clyde Puckett]

My votes would go to Boston, Washington DC and Houston

[Spider]

Originally Posted by Big Guy

My votes would go to Boston, Washington DC and Houston

Washington DC .......... flashbacks , I was young , just starting out in Trucking ...... Spent most of the drive screaming like a high school girl ........ New york city was another adventure

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by Big Guy

My votes would go to Boston, Washington DC and Houston

Been to DC and it doesn't compare (IMO) to the nuts in California. The NE states used to rank at the top for me until this past week.

[TailgateNut]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

, a topic near and dear to my heart .........big city driving is a hassle coast to coast , worst drivers ever are in South Carolina and Wyoming ... if they keep of accidents , columbia Sc and Cheyenne wyoming have to be the top 2 or close to it ......

aaaah, a damn trucker . What is it with you guys on downhill and uphill runs. Having to pull your slow ass POS vehicles out in front when you know you can't pass the guy who was in front of you. So then you just scedaddle along blocking the whole world!

F-ing Truckers!

[ludo21]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

aaaah, a damn trucker . What is it with you guys on downhill and uphill runs. Having to pull your slow ass POS vehicles out in front when you know you can't pass the guy who was in front of you. So then you just scedaddle along blocking the whole world!

F-ing Truckers!

most do that on purpose for some sick reason....

[Spider]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

aaaah, a damn trucker . What is it with you guys on downhill and uphill runs. Having to pull your slow ass POS vehicles out in front when you know you can't pass the guy who was in front of you. So then you just scedaddle along blocking the whole world!

F-ing Truckers!

turtle racing ........... it is important to see who has the faster 65 MPH truck ......... My truck according to my GPS clocks out @ 117 miles per hour

[Spider]

Originally Posted by ludo21

most do that on purpose for some sick reason....

same sick reason we slow you guys up through redlights ........... revenge

[Bronco Yoda]

Originally Posted by TailgateNut

It's not a matter of speed or speed limits. I don't mind going 100. I drove in Germany for a few years and LA and SoCal don't even come close to the speeds on the Autobahn. It's a matter of the "dumbass factor" and rudeness of the SoCal drivers.
Maybe they just didn't like my Bronco Country license plates. or the fact that I was vacationing (chillin') while they had to carry their sorry asses to work.

Always take your Bronco stuff off before getting your car detailed out in SoCal. Trust me on this one! Car washes and illegal-car washer-Faider fans don't mix!

Also, in SoCal everyone is over-touchy and Road Rage can be severe. In New York using your horn is a god given mandate used more than a turn signal. Out here in on the West Coast people react to a horn as if you shot at them.

...and speaking of shooting. In Orange County you can get shot at on the road with a road-rager.... Cross over into LA county and you WILL get shot at so... just let the idiots do their thing and steer clear.... unless you yourself have a gun and feel like playing along.

[ant1999e]

Originally Posted by §Pide®

, a topic near and dear to my heart .........big city driving is a hassle coast to coast , worst drivers ever are in South Carolina and Wyoming ... if they keep of accidents , columbia Sc and Cheyenne wyoming have to be the top 2 or close to it ......

I read an article in the wyo. tribune saying cheyenne drivers were among the worst.

http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/...l_04-04-07.txt