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Old 04-11-2007, 10:40 AM   #26
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I don't think I can handle the kick of a 12 gauge yet, that's why I'm starting with the 20.
You could handle it just fine. While I'm not a shooter now, I did work at a trap/skeet range for a few years when I was a kid, and was able to get in some rounds of my own here and there.

The kick of a 12 gauge is no big deal if you are taught a good stable stance and the proper hold. I never really noticed much recoil myself, and I was a pretty skinny guy. The only people who had noticeable problems with it were those who held the gun as if they were afraid of it or leaned backward at the waist. Mostly chicks.
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Old 04-11-2007, 02:17 PM   #27
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Glock? Cmon man, put down that overrated thumb blaster and pick up a Springfield.

I never could get into Glock myself. Too light. They are reliable.

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Old 04-11-2007, 02:30 PM   #28
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Shot a shít load of decoys once .... long story
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If a girld doesn't know what she's doing she can dislocate her shoulder with a 12.

I have never shot my Winchester, just had it recently cleaned. I'm not a hunter. I can throttle Beezer with my bare hands if I can catch im.

I'm more an enemy to fish.
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Shot a shít load of decoys once .... long story
You have no idea how comical I find that. How many kills? Didn't you get a clue when they didn't flush?

You moron.

You wan't some pheasant, I can bag one easy at the Spruce grove or around the elevator.

If you want a real challenge, try partridge. They don't live in pear trees. The bastards have sentry's all around and will spook at the first sign of intrusion. They are virtually impossible to bag unless your a fox or something.

Funny story at least for me, and Ive told it before...I went out with GF and young son and we had guns and were going "snipe" hunting...

I saw a partridge and yelled..."There's a snipe" and he got really pumped up for the hunt.

I couldn't hold back any longer and broke down laughing and he wasn't amused while we laughed like Hyenas. He laughs now tho. I decided against cow tipping against a bull at that point.
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You have no idea how comical I find that. How many kills? Didn't you get a clue when they didn't flush?

You moron.

You wan't some pheasant, I can bag one easy at the Spruce grove or around the elevator.

If you want a real challenge, try partridge. They don't live in pear trees. The bastards have sentry's all around and will spook at the first sign of intrusion. They are virtually impossible to bag unless your a fox or something.

Funny story at least for me, and Ive told it before...I went out with GF and young son and we had guns and were going "snipe" hunting...

I saw a partridge and yelled..."There's a snipe" and he got really pumped up for the hunt.

I couldn't hold back any longer and broke down laughing and he wasn't amused while we laughed like Hyenas. He laughs now tho. I decided against cow tipping against a bull at that point.
Hey I was 12 years old and I was in Rambo mode Those decoys didnt put up a fight ......... Didnt dawn on me until a voice from the other side of the river shouted ........ "Hey ásshole quit shooting my Decoys"
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I just let the critters be. Some friends of the family can hunt, but I don't really care for hunting.

Maybe it's that I can just get a fish and sack it, clean it and have some fresh fish in three teasy setps. Deer are so overpopulated here you have trouble not tripping over them. I could chug a fifth and bag one. heh. I'm serious.

Now get me on a partriage hunt, your in another theater.



I think that's the critter. Not sure.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:42 PM   #33
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Do you mean you'd like to use a side by side? an over/under is a double barrel. Anyway, I shot on the Trap and Skeet team at the Academy for 4 years. I shoot a Beretta 687 Silver Pidgeon II (over and under) and a Remington 1100 (autoloader). An over/under is more accurate than a side by side, use the bottom barrel as it is the more accurate of the 2. You will have a harder time hitting the clays with a 20 gauge vice a 12 gauge. Any other Qs just holler
Yep, that's what I meant! Oops. An over/under is more accurate, huh? I guess I'll stick with this.

I'm scared to use this gun. I want my own, but I want to make sure I like it before I buy one. It's some expensive rare shotgun of my father-in-laws. Yikes. I'm scared I'll do something to it.

So if I start with a 20 gauge and can actually hit a few targets with it, I should be better with a 12 gauge? What is the difference of the kick between the two? That's why I chose to go with the 20 over the 12 right now. Is there that big of a difference?
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:45 PM   #34
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I'm on an industrial trap and skeet team. The best gun to shoot with is one you are comfortable with. I currently use a plain Mossberg pump. I would love to have an over/under, but too pricey for me. There are several people that shoot with 20 gauges.

I'm decent at trap, but skeet is horrible.
Oh I probably wont hit **** at trap. There's no way I could do skeet.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:48 PM   #35
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All these replies and no practical advice?

Wait until the target reaches its apex - it will give the appearance of hanging in mid-air for just an instant - that's when you need to fire. Make sure you aim just below the target. This will give you the greatest possibility of success.

Have fun, Montana. Don't Cheney anybody in the side of the head.

Thanks, Slappy. My father in law told me the biggest mistake people make shooting trap or skeet is not following the target all the way through.

Thanks for the advice. This whole thing will be comical at best and I'm glad no one here will be watching.

I'll try not to harm anyone. Try......
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You could handle it just fine. While I'm not a shooter now, I did work at a trap/skeet range for a few years when I was a kid, and was able to get in some rounds of my own here and there.

The kick of a 12 gauge is no big deal if you are taught a good stable stance and the proper hold. I never really noticed much recoil myself, and I was a pretty skinny guy. The only people who had noticeable problems with it were those who held the gun as if they were afraid of it or leaned backward at the waist. Mostly chicks.
Yeah, I would be a chick.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:08 PM   #37
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Thanks, Slappy. My father in law told me the biggest mistake people make shooting trap or skeet is not following the target all the way through.

Thanks for the advice. This whole thing will be comical at best and I'm glad no one here will be watching.

I'll try not to harm anyone. Try......
That's a very good point. This is the first time I've ever done it and a lot of the people in the league are amatuers. It is a amazing how many people stop swinging when they pull the trigger, even after someone points out to them. What Slap brought up is a good point too. Shoot a little under even before it reaches its peak. You are shooting upwards and the clay is going away from you. Your shot continues to rise the farther it flies and will meet up with the clay.

Does that make sense?
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That's a very good point. This is the first time I've ever done it and a lot of the people in the league are amatuers. It is a amazing how many people stop swinging when they pull the trigger, even after someone points out to them. What Slap brought up is a good point too. Shoot a little under even before it reaches its peak. You are shooting upwards and the clay is going away from you. Your shot continues to rise the farther it flies and will meet up with the clay.

Does that make sense?
Yep it does.

I went out and shot the gun yesterday. Whew. It had a bigger kick than I expected. My husband said it was because I was using high brass shells. I missed what I was aiming at too, damnit. Oh well, first time. I sure hope I get better.

Thanks for all the help, guys!
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I shoot trap, skeet, and sporting clays. Shoot a Browning Gold Fusion 12 guage and Ruger Red Label Over Under 20 guage. Of course, the next time I find an extra 2500 bucks I plan on upgrading to the Browning 525.
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Yep it does.

I went out and shot the gun yesterday. Whew. It had a bigger kick than I expected. My husband said it was because I was using high brass shells. I missed what I was aiming at too, damnit. Oh well, first time. I sure hope I get better.

Thanks for all the help, guys!
Yep, high brass kicks harder. I use 7 1/2 or 8 shot low brass shell. Our team missed last week so this week I may have to shoot 200 rounds, yikes.

Do you know what eye is your strong eye? I'm a left handed shooter, but my right eye is my strong eye. I have to shut my right eye while I shoot or else my aim will be way off. It doesn't bother my in trap, but in skeet I have a harder time following the bird. I really need to teach my self to shoot right handed, but that would be like teaching myself to write right handed.
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Yep, high brass kicks harder. I use 7 1/2 or 8 shot low brass shell. Our team missed last week so this week I may have to shoot 200 rounds, yikes.

Do you know what eye is your strong eye? I'm a left handed shooter, but my right eye is my strong eye. I have to shut my right eye while I shoot or else my aim will be way off. It doesn't bother my in trap, but in skeet I have a harder time following the bird. I really need to teach my self to shoot right handed, but that would be like teaching myself to write right handed.
I always shoot with both eyes open. Of course, I have been told by very experienced Skeet shooters that you actually should focus on a point and wait for the bird to enter that area...and start your swing before it gets there and never shoot from behind the bird. I cant do it, but once I started shooting skeet with both eyes open, I had much better luck picking up the quick lateral birds.
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I always shoot with both eyes open. Of course, I have been told by very experienced Skeet shooters that you actually should focus on a point and wait for the bird to enter that area...and start your swing before it gets there and never shoot from behind the bird. I cant do it, but once I started shooting skeet with both eyes open, I had much better luck picking up the quick lateral birds.
You're supposed to shoot with both eyes open. Expect I look down the barrel with my left eye, but my right eye is the dominant eye and takes over. I may think I'm aimed right, but I'm actually shooting off to the right. If I was able to teach myself to shoot right handed I would be able to leave both eyes open.
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You're supposed to shoot with both eyes open. Expect I look down the barrel with my left eye, but my right eye is the dominant eye and takes over. I may think I'm aimed right, but I'm actually shooting off to the right. If I was able to teach myself to shoot right handed I would be able to leave both eyes open.
Did you ever shoot right handed as a kid since you were right eye dominant?
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Did you ever shoot right handed as a kid since you were right eye dominant?
No, I'm a lefty through and through. It wasn't till a few years ago that I learned the difference. I try to explain it to some people and they don't get it. I tell them to extend their arm and hold their thumb up in front of them. Line your thumb up with something in the distant with both eyes open. Paying attention to how the thumb is lined up close one eye at a time. Your alignment will stay the same with just your strong eye open. When your weak eye is open it will look like your thumb moved and is off alignment.
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No, I'm a lefty through and through. It wasn't till a few years ago that I learned the difference. I try to explain it to some people and they don't get it. I tell them to extend their arm and hold their thumb up in front of them. Line your thumb up with something in the distant with both eyes open. Paying attention to how the thumb is lined up close one eye at a time. Your alignment will stay the same with just your strong eye open. When your weak eye is open it will look like your thumb moved and is off alignment.
I have tried that too. You can also make a diamond shape (like Larry Johnson's TD celebration) and put it on an object so that you can see it with both eyes open. Then close one eye and then the other.....if you can see it, you are looking with your dominant eye.
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Yep, high brass kicks harder. I use 7 1/2 or 8 shot low brass shell. Our team missed last week so this week I may have to shoot 200 rounds, yikes.

Do you know what eye is your strong eye? I'm a left handed shooter, but my right eye is my strong eye. I have to shut my right eye while I shoot or else my aim will be way off. It doesn't bother my in trap, but in skeet I have a harder time following the bird. I really need to teach my self to shoot right handed, but that would be like teaching myself to write right handed.
My father in law checked me out and said I'm stronger in the right eye. Whew. I'm right handed, I can't imagine shooting a gun left handed!

I'm going to try these low brass shells I bought and hope they don't kick as hard.
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Haven't had a chance yet. It's been raining too much. I'm looking forward to it though.
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Wow! I could only hope to hit one at this point. Still haven't gotten a chance to go out and shoot yet. I got a dirt bike and it's been hindering my want to shoot. Why go shoot a gun, when I can injure myself closer to home on something motorized?!
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