General Hockey Thread v3.0

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

I really would be upset with this kind of trade. I know, its probably best for the club, but man how many favorites can a gal lose in three years?!

From Spectors:
LAPERRIERE ON THE BLOCK?

RDS.CA: Luc Gelinas reported yesterday it's possible the Colorado Avalanche might place gritty forward Ian Laperriere on the trade block should the club fall further out of the playoff race by the deadline. Gelinas suggests Lapierrere might be of interest to Montreal Canadiens GM Bob Gainey, who isn't likely to sacrifice the future to acquire Peter Forsberg or Todd Bertuzzi for a quick fix to his club's current woes.

I hope not! we don't need to lose a quality player for a futile playoff run, i was pissed after out other best lockeroom guy podein left. Lappy is extremely useful to a team of youngsters IMO

[Pendejo]

The AVS/flames game will be streamed on yahoo tonight.

[Jori]

Forsberg is heading to Nashville!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=196374&hubname=

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by Jori

Forsberg is heading to Nashville!

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=196374&hubname=

Thanks Jori!

The Predleys just picked up a bonafide playoff stud. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pete turn in a performance reminiscent of 2002...when he returned from injury to lead all players in playoff points.

I don't know anything about the players they gave up though.

[Killericon]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Thanks Jori!

The Predleys just picked up a bonafide playoff stud. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pete turn in a performance reminiscent of 2002...when he returned from injury to lead all players in playoff points.

I don't know anything about the players they gave up though.

They got dick all in return. The general feeling is that Forsberg will resign in Philly after this season.

[Mtbrncofn]

Wow, what a game! Theo didn't blow it when he got in net, actually played decent, Hejduk was a stud, Bruno.....and then there's Joe. What a stud.


Congrats on #600, Joe!

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Pendejo

Thanks Jori!

The Predleys just picked up a bonafide playoff stud. I wouldn't be surprised to see Pete turn in a performance reminiscent of 2002...when he returned from injury to lead all players in playoff points.

I don't know anything about the players they gave up though.

Sounds to me like they gave up an awful lot for him. That was the team that was at the top of my list. I can live with him there....mostly.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by killericon

They got dick all in return. The general feeling is that Forsberg will resign in Philly after this season.

Philly, really? What a hoser, he should come back home for cryin' out loud.

[Tredici]

Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

Wow, what a game! Theo didn't blow it when he got in net, actually played decent, Hejduk was a stud, Bruno.....and then there's Joe. What a stud.


Congrats on #600, Joe!

One of the biggest meaningless goals in Av History. Joey is the best.

[Mtbrncofn]

Originally Posted by Tredici

One of the biggest meaningless goals in Av History. Joey is the best.

I know, but it was still 600! Even Joe himself said he wished it hadn't been an empty netter. It actually shocked me. I would have expected to hear him say something like, "Oh, I had no clue I was near 600."

[Jori]

Don't be surprised if Forsberg doesn't go back to Philly. I think there is some frustration from ownership that Peter wasn't willing to sign a contract extension. Forsberg plans on reevaluating his situation in the offseason before he makes any decision.

[Mtbrncofn]

Yeah, it seems odd to me to think that he would head back there, but I guess stranger things have happened.

Btw, what the heck happened to the whole timeline thing? Remember when he left the Avs, all the talk was that he was going to play for Philly for 2 years and then go back to Sweden and that would be it. Retirement. Whatever happened to all that talk?

[Jori]

I think that was more speculation then anything else.

Here's an interesting read:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=5521

[Mtbrncofn]

That was interesting. Bugs me to no end that he sounds like he wants to go back to Philly because of his 'great chemistry' with his teammates. What the hell did he have here?!

[Bronx33]

Originally Posted by Mtbrncofn

Wow, what a game! Theo didn't blow it when he got in net, actually played decent, Hejduk was a stud, Bruno.....and then there's Joe. What a stud.


Congrats on #600, Joe!

One of 17 is a huge acomplishment! he will move even further up the ladder IMO



Betmans lockout took probably 25 goals from joe but joe will easily pass bobby hull and maybe even Robitaille at 668 before he hangs em up.

[Bronx33]

since the Christmas Break (as of February 16th)
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Western Conference
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Team Games Record Points

Vancouver 21 15-3-3 33
Detroit 24 16-7-1 33
Calgary 25 13-7-5 31
Nashville 22 15-7-0 30
St. Louis 23 13-7-3 29
Minnesota 23 13-7-3 29
Phoenix 23 12-10-1 25
Dallas 21 11-8-2 24
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San Jose 21 11-9-1 23
Edmonton 23 10-10-3 23
Colorado 22 10-10-2 22
Columbus 22 9-11-2 20
Los Angeles 22 7-11-4 18
Chicago 22 7-12-3 17
Anaheim 20 7-11-2 16


Eastern Conference
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Team Games Record Points

New Jersey 22 16-3-3 35
Pittsburgh 22 15-4-3 33
Ottawa 21 15-4-2 32
Tampa Bay 23 16-7-0 32
Buffalo 23 14-8-1 29
Toronto 21 12-6-3 27
NY Islanders 24 10-9-5 25
Carolina 23 10-10-3 23
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Florida 21 9-8-4 22
NY Rangers 20 10-9-1 21
Atlanta 23 9-11-3 21
Philadelphia 22 7-11-4 18
Boston 23 8-13-2 18
Montreal 24 8-15-1 17
Washington 23 7-14-2 16


NHL
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Team Games Record Points

New Jersey 22 16-3-3 35
Vancouver 21 15-3-3 33
Pittsburgh 22 15-4-3 33
Detroit 24 16-7-1 33
Ottawa 21 15-4-2 32
Tampa Bay 23 16-7-0 32
Calgary 25 13-7-5 31
Nashville 22 15-7-0 30
Buffalo 23 14-8-1 29
St. Louis 23 13-7-3 29
Minnesota 23 13-7-3 29
Toronto 21 12-6-3 27
Phoenix 23 12-10-1 25
NY Islanders 24 10-9-5 25
Dallas 21 11-8-2 24
San Jose 21 11-9-1 23
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Edmonton 23 10-10-3 23
Carolina 23 10-10-3 23
Florida 21 9-8-4 22
Colorado 22 10-10-2 22
NY Rangers 20 10-9-1 21
Atlanta 23 9-11-3 21
Columbus 22 9-11-2 20
Los Angeles 22 7-11-4 18
Philadelphia 22 7-11-4 18
Boston 23 8-13-2 18
Chicago 22 7-12-3 17
Montreal 24 8-15-1 17
Anaheim 20 7-11-2 16
Washington 23 7-14-2 16

[Bronx33]

Berube called out Avery after the game in the tunnel for going after non-fighters, calling him a "gutless puke". Avery responded by calling Berube a "cement head"

[SoCalBronco]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

since the Christmas Break (as of February 16th)
*************************

Western Conference
******************

Team Games Record Points

Vancouver 21 15-3-3 33
Detroit 24 16-7-1 33
Calgary 25 13-7-5 31
Nashville 22 15-7-0 30
St. Louis 23 13-7-3 29
Minnesota 23 13-7-3 29
Phoenix 23 12-10-1 25
Dallas 21 11-8-2 24
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San Jose 21 11-9-1 23
Edmonton 23 10-10-3 23
Colorado 22 10-10-2 22
Columbus 22 9-11-2 20
Los Angeles 22 7-11-4 18
Chicago 22 7-12-3 17
Anaheim 20 7-11-2 16


Eastern Conference
******************

Team Games Record Points

New Jersey 22 16-3-3 35
Pittsburgh 22 15-4-3 33
Ottawa 21 15-4-2 32
Tampa Bay 23 16-7-0 32
Buffalo 23 14-8-1 29
Toronto 21 12-6-3 27
NY Islanders 24 10-9-5 25
Carolina 23 10-10-3 23
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Florida 21 9-8-4 22
NY Rangers 20 10-9-1 21
Atlanta 23 9-11-3 21
Philadelphia 22 7-11-4 18
Boston 23 8-13-2 18
Montreal 24 8-15-1 17
Washington 23 7-14-2 16


NHL
***

Team Games Record Points

New Jersey 22 16-3-3 35
Vancouver 21 15-3-3 33
Pittsburgh 22 15-4-3 33
Detroit 24 16-7-1 33
Ottawa 21 15-4-2 32
Tampa Bay 23 16-7-0 32
Calgary 25 13-7-5 31
Nashville 22 15-7-0 30
Buffalo 23 14-8-1 29
St. Louis 23 13-7-3 29
Minnesota 23 13-7-3 29
Toronto 21 12-6-3 27
Phoenix 23 12-10-1 25
NY Islanders 24 10-9-5 25
Dallas 21 11-8-2 24
San Jose 21 11-9-1 23
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Edmonton 23 10-10-3 23
Carolina 23 10-10-3 23
Florida 21 9-8-4 22
Colorado 22 10-10-2 22
NY Rangers 20 10-9-1 21
Atlanta 23 9-11-3 21
Columbus 22 9-11-2 20
Los Angeles 22 7-11-4 18
Philadelphia 22 7-11-4 18
Boston 23 8-13-2 18
Chicago 22 7-12-3 17
Montreal 24 8-15-1 17
Anaheim 20 7-11-2 16
Washington 23 7-14-2 16

Yeah we have done pretty well in the last couple months...currently 13-0-2 in our last 15 and closing in on New Jersey for the division lead. Gotta stop blowing 3 goal leads though, it is getting annoying, we still end up winning but we will eventually start paying for it.

[Pendejo]

Originally Posted by Bronx33

Berube called out Avery after the game in the tunnel for going after non-fighters, calling him a "gutless puke". Avery responded by calling Berube a "cement head"

Hah!

[Jens1893]

I think I need a Sakic jersey before I need a Cutler jersey.

[Jori]

Originally Posted by SoCalBronco

Yeah we have done pretty well in the last couple months...currently 13-0-2 in our last 15 and closing in on New Jersey for the division lead. Gotta stop blowing 3 goal leads though, it is getting annoying, we still end up winning but we will eventually start paying for it.

Definition of a young team, they'll learn.

[SoCalBronco]

I saw this post on HFBoards and thought you guys might get a chuckle out of it:

Wikipedia says Jose Theodore has a child with a girlfriend / ex girlfriend named Stephanie Cloutier. Any chance she's related to Dan Cloutier?

... perhaps this kid will be the Anti-Christ of goaltending?

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=345525

[Mtbrncofn]

Good Lord, I've known her name all along and never even thought to connect them. Not sure.

Lucky for us, that child is a girl.

[Bronx33]

Feb. 27 - Trade deadline, 3 p.m. EST.

[Tredici]

While many have come and gone, Sakic still Avs' heart

By George Johnson
Special to ESPN.com
Archive


Over the course of more than 17 seasons and more than 1,400 games, you'd think Joe Sakic had seen it all and done it all.


As he crossed the threshold into the visiting dressing room Thursday night at the Pengrowth Saddledome, after having just scored his 599th and 600th career goals and chipped in with three helpers to inspire a vital 7-5 comeback win over the Calgary Flames for the Colorado Avalanche, his teammates stopped what they were doing, stood and applauded.

Joe Sakic is only the 17th player in NHL history to reach 600 career goals.

A standing ovation from his peers.

"Never had that happen before," he admitted, looking a trifle flustered.

It usually happens only when someone's out on the ice in a suit, eyes glistening, surrounded by family, gazing up dumbstruck as his jersey is being hoisted to the rafters.

When his story is over.

Joe Sakic still has a chapter or two left in him to write.

Here, then, we pay homage to Quoteless Joe, the superstar who shuns the spotlight like a mob squealer holed up somewhere in Arizona in a witness protection program.

At 37, a time when others of his quality and legacy began to wind down, a time when an athlete thinks about moving into the TV booth or into upper management, Sakic continues to defy time, he wins games and sets the standard for others to follow. He tries to push his way into the top 10 in scoring, holding off prodigious whippersnappers such as Russian phenom Evgeni Malkin and "new" NHL icons like the diminutive Daniel Briere.

Sakic became only the 15th man in history to reach 600 career goals, and he's done it all for one organization (albeit in two cities). That night, the Avs trailed 2-0 and 4-2 to a team that this season has made its rink a veritable bone yard for transgressors. But while facing reigning Vezina Trophy winner Miikka Kiprusoff, Colorado did not sag, did not buckle, did not give up hope.

Silent Joe simply would not allow it.

These are no longer the bulked-up Avalanche of the Stanley Cup glory years, turning out perennial championship contenders. No Saint Patrick. No Peter the Great. No Ray. No Footie. No Drury. No Tanguay.

There's just Sakic.

If they do crack the top eight in a fiercely competitive Western Conference, know that No. 19 will have added significantly to his Hall of Fame portfolio.

This is not a person who wallows in nostalgia. And perhaps his insistence on looking ahead and not behind is the very thing that keeps him so fresh, so vital, so current -- the reason he still matters.

"He's just so well-prepared," Avs teammate Ian Laperriere said. "What he does during the season to stay in shape is what everybody else does in the summer. His conditioning is unbelievable. Sometimes you see him riding the bike in the morning and you want to say, 'Hey, didn't you play 25 minutes last night?' But what he does obviously works. We're talking about one of the top 10 players of all time.

"When you think of how many goals he's scored in this league … "

In the wake of No. 600, when asked about his very first NHL goal way back in 1988, when the Avalanche were still "Les Nordiques" and playing at Le Colisee in beautiful Quebec City, Sakic appeared momentarily stumped.

"I think Robert Picard set it up," he said. "The other guy? I don't know. You'd have to check. I was at the side of the net. [Picard] passed it over and I kind of poked it into the net. At least, that's how I remember it."

The goalie?

"Sean Burke."

OK, as someone apparently unimpressed by 600 goals, what, in his opinion, would be a milestone worth celebrating?

"Patty Roy's all-time [goaltending] games-played record," Sakic replied. "That was fantastic. Being on the ice, being a small part of that, was really special."

Since arriving from the Swift Current Broncos of the Western Hockey League, nothing Joe Sakic has done has been small. And for all the accolades he's received through the years, they are nothing at all like what he's deserved. Because that side of the game simply is of no interest to him.

In his previous life as a Los Angeles King, Laperriere's job description was partly to get under the skin of the opposition's top guns. Being out West, he had many occasions to run into Joe Sakic.

"Oh, sure, you chirp at guys -- nothing personal, but about their game -- to try and throw them off, try and get an edge, make them think about something other than what they're supposed to be doing," Laperriere said. "But what could a guy like me possibly say to a guy like him? He's won Stanley Cups and Olympic gold medals. He just goes about his job, not saying much, being the best player on the ice at both ends.

"So why would he pay any attention to anything a guy like me had to say? Besides, if I did say anything to him on one shift, he'd just turn around and embarrass me on the next one. No, best to keep your mouth shut."

"He's playing as well as at any point in his career," said an awestruck (and thankful) Colorado coach Joel Quenneville. "I think the greatest thing you can say about Joe is that when he does retire, whenever that might be, he'll probably be still at the top of his game.

"How many players can honestly say that?"

The answer, of course, is: very, very few. Six hundred goals and counting and no signs of slowing down anytime soon.

"I'm trying to put into words," Laperriere said, "what he's meant to this franchise. What he still means to this franchise." A helpless shrug. "I guess 'everything' is about the best way to put it."