General Baseball Thread 2007 - The Orange Mane

Clockwork Orange · 02-16-2007, 12:48 AM

Spring trainings are opening up, so it's time to start talking small ball. We've always kept a general hockey thread going, so I figure we can do the same with baseball.

So get in here all you seamheads, bleacher bums and roto geeks. The season is just weeks away.

Hogan11 · 02-16-2007, 12:57 AM

Since the Flyers suck this year and I'm not into basketball or NASCAR....March is going to be kinda hard to take.

As a Pirates fan, I'm excited by the moves the team made and think they can actually compete this year in the NL Central barring injury.

DBroncos4life · 02-16-2007, 01:08 AM

who do you keep Arroyo or Bedard?

-Slap- · 02-16-2007, 01:12 AM

The Pirates are definitely improved. I think the rotation and everyday lineup are each better than they have been in years. The bullpen is weaker, but Capps might step up and change that. They played over .500 ball over the last 70 games or so and I think its not unreasonable they could do that over an entire season. Very tough division, though.

-Slap- · 02-16-2007, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBroncos4life

who do you keep Arroyo or Bedard?

I trust Bedard more and I think he has a higher ceiling.

I don't know if I would keep either of them, though.

How many keepers do you get?

SouthStndJunkie · 02-16-2007, 01:37 AM

Let's go Tigers!

DBroncos4life · 02-16-2007, 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

I trust Bedard more and I think he has a higher ceiling.

I don't know if I would keep either of them, though.

How many keepers do you get?

Im keeping Natan, Pettite, Zambrano, and Beckett. Arroyo is the 16th rated pitcher in that league so I'm leaning towards him just because I think I have a better chance at getting Bedard in the draft. I'm very high on Bedard and I worry that the NL will catch on to Arroyo as well but still early on I think I could move him if he is pitching well. I have Pedro but I can't afford to wait on him and Colon is too iffy to keep. The other guy that I like is Ervin Santana, but I just don't know about him right now. As is I have the third best pitching staff in my division. I guess thats what I get for setting out a year during a keep league. (more like forced out a year)

SoCalBronco · 02-16-2007, 02:19 AM

Go Pale Hose.

Taco John · 02-16-2007, 04:00 AM

Thank God for fantasy baseball, because I'd never be able to make it through a season if I had to rely on the Mariners to keep my interest. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Mariner fan and enjoy getting to a game when I can. But baseball seasons are long, and all that losing really wears on you. And it's looking like it's going to be another loooooooong season.

Hogan11 · 02-16-2007, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

The Pirates are definitely improved. I think the rotation and everyday lineup are each better than they have been in years. The bullpen is weaker, but Capps might step up and change that. They played over .500 ball over the last 70 games or so and I think its not unreasonable they could do that over an entire season. Very tough division, though.

I generally agree but I'm not buying the bullpen is weaker thing. I know Gonzalez was solid as a closer, but he was also lost during that 70 game stretch due to an elbow injury and they got along just fine without him....Capps, Torres, Marte, Grabow et.al can and will be just as strong and will get the job done...barring injury of course.

Jens1893 · 02-16-2007, 12:18 PM

CO, Holliday will get paid ... by whom is the question.

Bronco LB 59 · 02-16-2007, 03:12 PM

Plenty of news out there and pitchers/catchers have only reported....

Keith Foulke retires.

Kerry Wood injured. What's new. This time slipping getting out of a hot tub.

Mike Mussina started the Bronx Zoo **** storm on the first day by throwing his teammate Carl Pavano under the bus.

Daisuke Mania is unreal.

spdirty · 02-16-2007, 03:17 PM

Spring Training already? damnit!

-Slap- · 02-16-2007, 03:17 PM

Barry Zito says he's going to change his pitching motion and Giant pitching coach Dave Righetti is already predicting an arm injury for him.

Clockwork Orange · 02-16-2007, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens1893

CO, Holliday will get paid ... by whom is the question.

Taco John · 02-16-2007, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Slap-

I trust Bedard more and I think he has a higher ceiling.

Bedard and Jared Waver are my boys! I picked both of these guys up last year as free agents, and they both gave my pitching staff a huge boost. I got Bedard when he was considered pond scum, and he did nothing but deliver the goods all season long after that.

WABronco · 02-16-2007, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taco John

Thank God for fantasy baseball, because I'd never be able to make it through a season if I had to rely on the Mariners to keep my interest. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Mariner fan and enjoy getting to a game when I can. But baseball seasons are long, and all that losing really wears on you. And it's looking like it's going to be another loooooooong season.

As bad as it looked, the rotation rebuild actually dramatically improved the staff. Gone is Pineiroid. Gone is Gil. Gone are any thoughts of Cha Baek or Woods in the rotation. The Weaver signing is actually pretty damn good, and there's a good chance we surprise and pitch league-average or so.

There's a lot of "ifs" (as always), but if Jose Guillen is healthy and if Beltre and Ichiro carry over and if Yuni and Lopez progress and if Felix doesn't do anything rash...etc...there's room for some optimism IMO.

NaptownChief · 02-16-2007, 04:16 PM

I saw that the Reds brought in Josh Hamilton, DRays #1 overall pick and former drug burn out, to camp under rule 5. Decent chance he makes the squad now that Kearns and Willy Mo were delt last year. And gawd knows they need to get Adam Dunn out of there and put somewhere his glove can't hurt them as bad.

Garcia Bronco · 02-16-2007, 04:20 PM

I hope Bonds, the greatest player ever, breaks the record this year.

Drek · 02-16-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I hope Bonds, the greatest ****head ever, blows his cover this year.

Fixed that for you.

I hope he gets to 754 then the feds throw him in jail. That'd be beautiful.

Pendejo · 02-16-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I saw that the Reds brought in Josh Hamilton, DRays #1 overall pick and former drug burn out, to camp under rule 5. Decent chance he makes the squad now that Kearns and Willy Mo were delt last year. And gawd knows they need to get Adam Dunn out of there and put somewhere his glove can't hurt them as bad.

San Diego.

-Slap- · 02-16-2007, 04:57 PM

Always productive when the so-called moderators troll the threads in this dump.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 02-16-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drek

Fixed that for you.

I hope he gets to 754 then the feds throw him in jail. That'd be beautiful.

I'd love that.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 02-16-2007, 05:12 PM

Does anyone have an honest assessment of Hirsh and Buchholz, the pitchers the Rockies received in the Jennings trade?

broncswin · 02-16-2007, 05:24 PM

My Dodgers are gonna make some noise this year with the addition of schmidt, their rotation could be tought to beat, and the added veteran leadership of Gonzo will be big for the young sticks such as: Kemp, Eithier, Bettemit and others. GO DODGER BLUE!!!!!!!!!

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02-16-2007, 12:48 AM	#1
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,438	General Baseball Thread 2007 Spring trainings are opening up, so it's time to start talking small ball. We've always kept a general hockey thread going, so I figure we can do the same with baseball. So get in here all you seamheads, bleacher bums and roto geeks. The season is just weeks away. Last edited by Clockwork Orange; 02-16-2007 at 12:52 AM..

02-16-2007, 12:57 AM	#2
Hogan11 Rock-N-Roll Historian Let's take these SOB's out!!!!!! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: W.NY.B.C. Posts: 21,300 Adopt-a-Bronco: Floyd Little	Since the Flyers suck this year and I'm not into basketball or NASCAR....March is going to be kinda hard to take. As a Pirates fan, I'm excited by the moves the team made and think they can actually compete this year in the NL Central barring injury.

02-16-2007, 01:08 AM	#3
DBroncos4life Hey pic Mod!?!?! FU Why yes, that is Bacon Bacon. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The wrong side of right. Posts: 26,928 Adopt-a-Bronco: Julius "Fluff"	who do you keep Arroyo or Bedard?

02-16-2007, 01:12 AM	#4
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	The Pirates are definitely improved. I think the rotation and everyday lineup are each better than they have been in years. The bullpen is weaker, but Capps might step up and change that. They played over .500 ball over the last 70 games or so and I think its not unreasonable they could do that over an entire season. Very tough division, though.

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Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,742 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	Thank God for fantasy baseball, because I'd never be able to make it through a season if I had to rely on the Mariners to keep my interest. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Mariner fan and enjoy getting to a game when I can. But baseball seasons are long, and all that losing really wears on you. And it's looking like it's going to be another loooooooong season.

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Bronco LB 59 Ring of Famer Keep your head up dog Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Leucadia CA Posts: 6,068	Plenty of news out there and pitchers/catchers have only reported.... Keith Foulke retires. Kerry Wood injured. What's new. This time slipping getting out of a hot tub. Mike Mussina started the Bronx Zoo **** storm on the first day by throwing his teammate Carl Pavano under the bus. Daisuke Mania is unreal.

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spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,923 Adopt-a-Bronco: Quentin Jammer	Spring Training already? damnit!

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NaptownChief Donkeys Nightmare Football Pimp Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,490	I saw that the Reds brought in Josh Hamilton, DRays #1 overall pick and former drug burn out, to camp under rule 5. Decent chance he makes the squad now that Kearns and Willy Mo were delt last year. And gawd knows they need to get Adam Dunn out of there and put somewhere his glove can't hurt them as bad.

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Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 46,001 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	I hope Bonds, the greatest player ever, breaks the record this year.

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02-16-2007, 05:24 PM	#25
broncswin God I love those Broncos Bring back the hardware Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Broncos Fantasy Land Posts: 2,017 Adopt-a-Bronco: three amigos	My Dodgers are gonna make some noise this year with the addition of schmidt, their rotation could be tought to beat, and the added veteran leadership of Gonzo will be big for the young sticks such as: Kemp, Eithier, Bettemit and others. GO DODGER BLUE!!!!!!!!!