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Old 01-08-2007, 04:51 PM   #601
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Here's some great freakin news for us Avs fans.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/New...s.aspx?NID=767


Colorado Avalanche defenseman John-Michael Liles will be sidelined approximately four weeks with a broken left foot. Liles suffered the injury in the first period of Saturday night’s game in Minnesota.

Liles, 26, ranks fourth among NHL defensemen in goals this season with 10 and is tied for 12th in scoring with 29 points. He is the first defenseman to score 10 or more goals in each of his first three NHL seasons since Steve Duchesne from 1986-87 to 1988-89.
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Here's some great freakin news for us Avs fans.

http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/New...s.aspx?NID=767


Colorado Avalanche defenseman John-Michael Liles will be sidelined approximately four weeks with a broken left foot. Liles suffered the injury in the first period of Saturday night’s game in Minnesota.

Liles, 26, ranks fourth among NHL defensemen in goals this season with 10 and is tied for 12th in scoring with 29 points. He is the first defenseman to score 10 or more goals in each of his first three NHL seasons since Steve Duchesne from 1986-87 to 1988-89.
That ****ing blows. Hope Wolski, Sakic, and Co. are ready to score 6 goals a night.
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[Images scattered throughout this article can be clicked on for enlargement. A great collection of clippings and memorabilia.]

On Tuesday, Jan. 2, Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch celebrated the storied, magnificent career of his long-time All-Star captain and center Steve Yzerman by retiring his jersey number 19, hanging it high into the rafters of Joe Louis Arena.

But as Ilitch celebrated the career of Yzerman with a spectacular ceremony, he simultaneously and purposefully desecrated the career of one of the Detroit’s earliest and true hockey heroes – right wing Larry Aurie.

Aurie, a fearless and talented right wing, played for Detroit from 1927 through 1939. Through his tireless, selfless play, he thoroughly impressed then-owner James Norris. In fact, Norris’ admiration of Aurie motivated him to retire Aurie’s jersey No. 6 in 1938. Aurie became the first-ever Red Wing to be honored in this manner

However, Norris did not hang any Aurie banner in the rafters at Olympia Stadium – it was not his custom. In the 1960’s, he did authorize a display of Aurie’s jersey in the lobby at Olympia Stadium. The display, which also included a photo and plaque describing Aurie’s career, was eventually removed from the lobby, and the jersey was thought to be the one later shipped to Toronto and the one currently on display at the Hockey Hall of Fame.

When Gordie Howe’s number 9 was retired in 1972 by then-owner Bruce Norris - James’ son, Howe’s number 9 was similarly not hung from the rafters. When Alex Delvecchio retired from the Red Wings in 1974, Norris also retired his jersey No. 10. Again, no jersey-raising ceremony. (Note: Delvecchio’s No. 10 was re-activated in 1977 when the number was requested and received by first-overall draft pick Dale McCourt, who wanted to honor his uncle George Armstrong by wearing the number Armstrong wore during his Hall of Fame career with Toronto).

Ilitch purchased the Wings from Norris in 1982, and began the practice of displaying retired jersey numbers from the rafters at Joe Louis Arena, beginning with Howe soon after he gained ownership. Ilitch next retired Ted Lindsay’s No. 7 and re-retiring Delvecchio’s No. 10 on the same day – Nov. 10, 1991. Terry Sawchuk’s No. 1 was next to the JLA rafters (March 6, 1994) and Sid Abel’s No. 12 followed on April 29, 1995.

One by one, Ilitch raised banners for these “Heroes of Hockeytown”. But he forgot to invite the first jersey retirement honoree – Larry Aurie – to any of the parties. He has simply and inexplicably refused to hang Aurie’s retired jersey with the others so honored, although he has not chosen to issue the number to another player.

But Ilitch did not stop the snub there. He has also acted to have his name removed from the records permanently, apparently feeling that he actually has the right to change and shape the history of the franchise.

imageIn 1975, when the Official NHL Guide and Record Book began listing retired numbers, three numbers were listed by Detroit - Aurie’s No. 6, Howe’s 9 and Delvecchio’s 10. For the 2000-01 season, Ilitch authorized the league to remove Aurie’s name from the guide’s list!

Over the years, Aurie family members have expressed anger and frustration by the Ilitch snub and act of “numeric cleansing”. Cummy Burton, Aurie’s cousin and the only player since Aurie to wear No. 6, has become one of the more vocal of the clan.

“At that time (1938), they didn’t raise the sweaters into the rafters,” said Burton in 1997 at age 60, from his home in Sudbury, Ont. “It was retired by Mr. Norris. When Larry died, they brought the jersey on the ice and had a moment of silence.

“Not hanging up Larry’s number would be compared to the Yankees’ not retiring Lou Gehrig’s number,” said Burton, “Just because he was from the 1930’s and now forgotten just because it’s all old stuff now. It’s like saying that war heroes don’t mean anything, just because they’re not around anymore.

“If this guy (Wings owner Ilitch) has got any moxie, he’ll honor the request of his predecessor (Norris). Aurie and players from his time were a beginning of a great franchise history. He should be recognized.”

Burton also recalled that “the best tribute paid to Larry was when someone once asked Jack Adams to compare a young Gordie Howe to Larry.

“When Howe was starting out (in 1946), a newspaper reporter asked Adams, ‘How do you compare Howe to Larry Aurie?’ At that time, they were using Larry Aurie as the talent gauge.”

There were many reasons for James Norris to be enamored with Aurie’s play.

Aurie’s first NHL season - 1927-28 - was the second for the Detroit franchise, then known as the Cougars. New coach and general manager Jack Adams’ first transaction was drafting Aurie out of junior hockey in London, Ont.

Adams scouted Aurie as a fiery competitor who excelled despite a size disadvantage (5-6, 148). Aurie was both a deft scorer and great puck-handler - earning the nickname `The Little Rag Man’ for his crowd-pleasing ability to ‘rag’ the puck while killing penalties. He was highly respected throughout the league.

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Adams always included Aurie on his top lines. In 1928, Adams’ top line was Aurie, Carson Cooper and George Hay. In 1929 and ‘30, it was Aurie, Cooper and Herbie Lewis. It was Aurie, Ebbie Goodfellow and Herbie Lewis in ‘31, Aurie, Goodfellow and Hec Kilrea in ’32, Aurie, Lewis and Johnny Sorrell in ’33, Aurie, Lewis and Carl Voss in the ’33 playoffs, and Aurie, Lewis and Cooney Weiland in ’34 and ‘35.

Finally, in 1936, Adams made the right connection in placing center Marty Barry with Aurie and Lewis. As Detroit’s 1930’s “Production Line”, they led the team to its first Stanley Cups ever, in 1936 and ‘37.

Aside from being one of the team’s offensive catalysts, Aurie was also often double-shifted as the team’s best defensive forward. He also had the tiresome duty of defusing their opponents’ top line, killed penalties routinely and was an intimidating physical presence in spite of his size - thus earning his other nickname: “Little Sampson”.

A testament to Aurie’s talent lies in the fact that he and Lewis were selected to play in the first NHL All-Star game in 1934. The game was a benefit for Toronto’s injured player Ace Bailey.

Despite the routine defensive duties, Aurie was still able to score at least 12 goals in nine of 11 full seasons (44-to 48-game seasons). He captained the team in 1932-33 and led the league in playoff scoring in 1934 with 10 points in nine games.

Aurie finished 11th in league scoring in 1934 with 16 goals and 35 points, third in 1935 with 17 goals and 46 points, 12th in 1936 with 16 goals and 34 points, and finished fourth in the league with 23 goals and 43 points in 1937 despite missing the final four games of the season after sustaining a broken ankle. That season, Aurie named first team NHL All-Star at right wing.

According to Charles L. Coleman in his book “The Trail of the Stanley Cup, Volume 2”, the Red Wings’ decline in 1937-38 was largely due to Aurie’s ankle injury. Coleman wrote that “Aurie had not recovered the form he had before breaking his ankle ... Without a healthy Aurie, the team collapsed”.

The hobbled Aurie retired after the 1938 season. And team owner Norris honored his favorite player by retiring Aurie’s uniform number 6. Aurie was then named coach of the AHL’s Pittsburgh Hornets, the Wings’ top farm club, but made one more NHL curtain call with Detroit on Dec. 25, 1938, when the parent team was experiencing a rash of injuries. Aurie responded in “Aurie form” – scoring the winning goal in a 3-1 win over the Montreal Canadiens at Detroit.

Aurie’s teammates have also taken the time to chime in support for their forgotten comrade.

“Larry was a big cog in the wheel of our first championship teams”, said teammate Pete Kelly, reached at his home in Fredericton, New Brunswick. “He was on our production line’ and was a key to those championships.”

imageJohnny Mowers, a talented Wings goalie from the early 1940’s, echoed Burton’s sentiments when asked about Aurie in May, 1995. “He was a great favorite of Adams, probably one of the best hockey players in the league at that time. When he quit playing, Adams did retire the number, saying that no one else would wear it. You know in those days, they did not hang up the number into the rafters like they do now.”

“All I knew was that Jack Adams really admired him and didn’t want anyone else to wear the jersey,” said Wings Hall of Fame center Alex Delvecchio in 1997.

“Jack Adams said he was great, and he knew great talent. I agree that Adams had retired it. But my thoughts are that Adams probably was too wrapped up in winning hockey games to hang jerseys from the rafters.”

Aurie, incidentally, was Delvecchio’s coach in junior hockey in Oshawa, Ont. in the late 1940’s. “We all looked up to him in awe. No doubt that he had alot of inspiration in my career.”

Carl Liscombe was another Red Wings star influenced greatly by Aurie. Liscombe played nine seasons with Detroit - his first in 1937-38 on a line with Aurie.

“You know, Larry was the one who got me to come to Detroit from playing junior hockey in Galt, Ont.,” said Liscombe in 1997. “I played with Larry for a year, but the team was breaking up at that point. Their line was getting old, so Adams put me on his line.”

Liscombe also recalled that “It was absolutely definite that Aurie’s number was retired. Norris liked him real well.”

There is much published proof supporting Norris’ acting to retire Aurie’s number. Numerous newspaper clippings documenting the number’s retirement were preserved by Dorothy Sleeth, Aurie’s sister-in-law who resided in Richmond, Ont. until her death in 2001.

One such clipping shows a photo of Delvecchio admiring the jersey, when it began being displayed in its Olympia display in 1962.

Other supportive artifacts include the cover of the New Year’s Eve 1962 Red Wings program whose cover shows Red Wings teammate Val Fontayne and Marcel Pronovost standing in full uniform in front of the Aurie Olympia display. Fontayne’s number incidentally was No. 19!

In Dec. 1952, an article appeared in the Red Wing Hockey Magazine – the Wings’ game program at the time. The article was written to eulogize both Aurie and Norris, who had also died in Dec. 1952 just prior to Aurie’s death. It read: “It was, perhaps, merciful that Mr. Norris was spared the sudden, shocking, and untimely passing of Larry Aurie.

“Larry was one of Mr. Norris’ favorite players. That was manifested when Aurie’s jersey, bearing number six, was retired from the active numbers when Larry left the Red Wing lineup for the last time.

“Perhaps, much of the admiration which Norris held for Larry lay in Aurie’s type. He was a typical Red Wing. A great two-way hockey player, he continually battled the handicap of size to become the first Detroit forward to ever win All-Star recognition from the league. He was a unanimous choice for the original Detroit Hall of Hockey Fame and the first member of it to die.

“Typical of Aurie was the fact that after he left the Wings to assume a player-coaches’ role at Pittsburgh (AHL), he was called back to Detroit for a one-night performance to help a loss-ridden, injury-riddled team. Larry scored the winning goal.

“Thus, two men from two poles of the hockey world have passed beyond us. In each, we are the losers.”

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Armed with my Aurie file of documentation, I met on separate occasions with Marian Ilitch and Denise Ilitch to possibly enlighten them to the omission of Aurie from the JLA rafters. When handed the documentation, both Marian and Denise seemed impressed and each expressed interest in looking into the matter more closely. Each mentioned taking the information back to discuss with other family members. But that’s where things ended with them, as they never took any further action - at least in a positive direction...I’ll get to that later.

I also spoke to Wings senior vice president Jim Devellano in 1997, who said that the team was reluctant to hang the jersey because Aurie was not a member of the Hockey Hall of Fame. I explained to Devellano that many NHL retired numbers are of players not in the Hall of Fame, and the fact remained that Aurie’s number was already retired, and should join the other retired numbers in the JLA rafters, regardless of whether or not he was a Hall of Fame member. Devellano listened intently, but repeated his “company line” and stated that the jersey would only be kept out of circulation, not hung in the rafters.

Devellano’s response did present a challenge to the family, which involved attempting at get Aurie nominated to the Hockey Hall of Fame ballot. In 1997, the Hall inducted only Wayne Gretzky upon his retirement after that season. In 1998, however, Aurie was successfully nominated for Hall of Fame consideration, and were confident that the committee would select Aurie. After much debate, Aurie finished a close second to Charlie Conacher in the voting.

The following year, the Hockey Hall of Fame inducted Mario Lemieux in the same solo fashion as was extended to Gretzky in 1997, and then took an unfortunate step backwards by declaring that no other “old-time” candidates would ever be allowed to be nominated again. Thus, another door was slammed on the Aurie family’s noble efforts.

Troubled by the Ilitch family’s cold response toward the Aurie situation, I and a handful of “Friends of Larry Aurie” - including Aurie’s grand niece and other family members - took to Woodward Avenue in Dec. 1999, busily distributing Aurie literature in the freezing cold in front of the Hockeytown Cafe… on a public sidewalk… with police permission.

Sadly and surprisingly, Ilitch tried to have us arrested, while we were very simply exercising our right to free speech. His security people continuously harrassed us, and finally succeeded in convincing the police to ask us to leave.

The police threatened to arrest the grand niece near the Hockeytown Café’s front door, and she left the scene sobbing, visibly shaken with her spirit all but broken by the surprising and disturbing intimidation exhibited by Ilitch that night.

One Olympia Entertainment security person confided to me that Ilitch was indeed trying to have us arrested, saying that he felt we were hurting his business and bothering Hockeytown and Fox Theatre patrons.

That night, Mike Ilitch failed to have us arrested. But the Ilitch family decided to act the following season - in a very unfortunate way.

Before the 2000-01 NHL season, during the launching of the Wings’ “Heroes of Hockeytown” campaign for the team’s 75th anniversary, the Ilitches authorized the removal of Aurie’s No. 6 from the list of Wings’ retired numbers in the 2000-01 NHL Guide. They acted in direct defiance of the wishes of former owner James Norris and, in their minds, un-retired the number! What they accomplished with the desecration of the Aurie name and his proud Detroit hockey legacy.

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Aurie is indeed a true “Hero of Hockeytown”, but he is without the medal he is entitled to, since Ilitch refused to honor the actions and wishes of then-owner James Norris in 1938.

Two days after the Yzerman Jersey Night, I spoke by telephone to a couple of Aurie family members who expresses much quiet sorrow while viewing to the Yzerman ceremony on CBC television. An uncle and cousin each spoke in somber tones regarding the continued Aurie snub by the Ilitches. Each still holds onto the hope that a day will come when Aurie’s jersey will take its rightful place in the JLA rafters.

The obvious action for the Ilitches would be to give Aurie his due by hanging No. 6 at Joe Louis Arena. Anything less, like their present attitude toward the subject, is totally disrespectful and unacceptable.
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What a beaut of a goal by Stastny!
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Words cannot describe as to how putrid the Avs were defensively tonight.
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It was shameful, that's for sure. I've never seen so many odd man breaks.
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You know, i think i'd trade malkin and keep staal
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4 weeks until liles returns his absents obviously showed right away.
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Did anyone else catch McNab's comments last night on Bonds? Hysterical. He called him the worst human being on the planet.
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Did anyone else catch McNab's comments last night on Bonds? Hysterical. He called him the worst human being on the planet.

It's true, bonds is a first class idiot.
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Oh I know, I'm what most would call a VERY casual baseball fan. I keep up on it a bit. I think Bonds is a waste of space too. When the thing came out the other day, I was incredulous. What a p***Y! My kids take more blame than he does and they're kids!

It was just hysterical to hear McNab. He was just shocked that someone could do something like that to a teammate.
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Check this out from the Bellowing Moose column at the NBC hockey site:


"Evgeni Malkin is the consensus pick here, but the Moose hates conventional wisdom (“Crash” wins best picture? Please.) That’s why we’re once again going west and picking L.A.’s Anze Kopitar, who’s been every bit as good as Malkin without the hype."
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Check this out from the Bellowing Moose column at the NBC hockey site:


"Evgeni Malkin is the consensus pick here, but the Moose hates conventional wisdom (“Crash” wins best picture? Please.) That’s why we’re once again going west and picking L.A.’s Anze Kopitar, who’s been every bit as good as Malkin without the hype."
How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?
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How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?
Clearly Kopitar plays on a team with not as much talent as the Pens have, Kopitar doesn't have a bunch of first overall draft pick players to play with. Thats how Moose arrived to that conclusion. Early this season Malkin was projected to net between 80-100 points, while kopitar was estimated at 40 points. Malkin was supposed to have the Calder in the bag, so everyone is impressed by this kid who is making a great season without having the benefit of even a consistent line. If Kopitar played with a consistent line he would have more points. I have been raving about Kopitar before this season even began, I'm sure some on this board rolled their eyes when I said Kopitar will be a super star in this league. Malkin is good but he's no Kopitar.


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Words cannot describe as to how putrid the Avs were defensively tonight.
They're slow, and passive in their own end. It's the opposite in their attacking zone.

This team is lazy, and has no heart. If they did...whether you like it or not...at a little over the halfway point of the season at least one Av other than Lappy would have a fighting major. Has Laperierre ever won a fight?

This team has no grit. They can score...but they don't clamp down...after a big goal they fold. I have never seen an Avalanche team turn the puck over in their own end with the regularity as this year's squad.

To be a good defensive team in the NHL you need three things. 1)Discipline. 2) Heart. 3) A stomach full of bad intentions. This Avs team has none of the above in their own end.
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How do they come to the "every bit as good" conclusion?

He's good, but he's no Malkin.

Malkin has 41 points in 38 games.

Kopitar has 39 points in 45 games.

How is that even roughly equal?
Not only that...but both Stastny, and Wolski are breathing down Kopitar's neck in the rookie points race. Both of them have played fewer games as well.
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Clearly Kopitar plays on a team with not as much talent as the Pens have, Kopitar doesn't have a bunch of first overall draft pick players to play with. Thats how Moose arrived to that conclusion. .


We do not have alot of talent, so thats a wrong assumption. We have ZERO NHL top 2 line caliber wingers...ZERO. Recchi is 90 years old and routinely sucks, Malone can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to work on his hockey game, Armstrong is AHL caliber, so is Christensen, Ekman is a very inaccurate shooter, there is no one to help Malkin unless he is playing with Sid. Staal is better defensively than offensively. You say "all these first overall picks", we only have two, Sid and the Flower. Our other first rounders were defensive players who are busts, like Whitney, who cant play defense worth **** and is just offense, he's basically Gonchar Jr which isnt a good thing. Caps fans call him "Whitney Spears" for spearing AO last year but I think that nickname fits Ryan perfectly on a number of fronts. The other first rounder was Orpik, who has nothing between his ears and just likes to hit, he has no concept of positioning and seems to go out of his way to get sent to the box.

To say Malkin is playing with "alot more talent" is not only a flat out lie, but its also a joke. When he isnt playing on Sid's line, he's playing with AHLers.
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This is one heck of a chippy game betwen the Flyers and Pens.
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We do not have alot of talent, so thats a wrong assumption. We have ZERO NHL top 2 line caliber wingers...ZERO. Recchi is 90 years old and routinely sucks, Malone can't keep his dick in his pants long enough to work on his hockey game, Armstrong is AHL caliber, so is Christensen, Ekman is a very inaccurate shooter, there is no one to help Malkin unless he is playing with Sid. Staal is better defensively than offensively. You say "all these first overall picks", we only have two, Sid and the Flower. Our other first rounders were defensive players who are busts, like Whitney, who cant play defense worth **** and is just offense, he's basically Gonchar Jr which isnt a good thing. Caps fans call him "Whitney Spears" for spearing AO last year but I think that nickname fits Ryan perfectly on a number of fronts. The other first rounder was Orpik, who has nothing between his ears and just likes to hit, he has no concept of positioning and seems to go out of his way to get sent to the box.
I'm still totally amazed that with 5 straight years in the Top 5, all the Pens have to show for it are those 5 picks. Nothing from any other picks coming up in the system. Kudos on the quality of those 5 picks though.
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I'm still totally amazed that with 5 straight years in the Top 5, all the Pens have to show for it are those 5 picks. Nothing from any other picks coming up in the system. Kudos on the quality of those 5 picks though.
We've got some other nice kids in the system, but most of them are defensemen....Welch, Letang, Goligoski etc.
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This is one heck of a chippy game betwen the Flyers and Pens.
It's always chippy when those two teams get together.

Long hard year for my Flyers....Boooo.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:23 PM   #623
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I watch it and i can say hatcher needs to be sent down the river.
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Old 01-13-2007, 05:25 PM   #624
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Old 01-14-2007, 07:06 PM   #625
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Huh, apparently the Ducks already moved on picking up a cheap defenseman.

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ANAHEIM, Calif. – The Anaheim Ducks announced today that the National Hockey League (NHL) club has acquired defenseman Ric Jackman from the Florida Panthers in exchange for a conditional draft pick in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft. The Ducks also announced that they have reassigned defenseman Aaron Rome to Portland, Anaheim’s primary development affiliate in the American Hockey League (AHL).

forgot to announce that Jackman was -4 in his first game and also was on the ice when Predators won in OT a few nights ago. This team misses Pronger big time. Neidenmeyer is playing around 34 minutes in his absence.
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