Reckless Driving - Virginia - The Orange Mane

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 06:18 PM

I was issued a Reckless Driving Ticket for doing 83 in a 55. It's my fault for not knowing the speed limit and going with the flow of traffic.

Should I look at getting a lawyer? I'm pretty scared ****less of the possibilities that can happen to me. This is my first ticket, but i don't know if it'll make a difference.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:21 PM

Where are you living in my home state...Norfolk?

GonzoLays · 01-02-2007, 06:21 PM

Find a car repair shop that will do a repair order on a broken odometer and bring it to court. You should end up with a much smaller fine and no strikes against your driving record.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:22 PM

And relax...it happens..

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Find a car repair shop that will do a repair order on a broken odometer and bring it to court. You should end up with a much smaller fine and no strikes against your driving record.

Not exactly...if he was just doing 20 over 55...that would be one thing...but 80 plus is automatic reckless and you are given the option of a lawyer. Even if it's reduced 5 miles...which is all you are going to get out of a "broken odometer" it's still reckless.

Call the clerk....ask if you can request Driving school on your situation. the number is on the summons the officer gave you.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Where are you living in my home state...Norfolk?

Rather...where were you caught speeding?

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Where are you living in my home state...Norfolk?

Hampton - Same place i got caught speeding.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Hampton

Where did you get the summons>

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Hampton

Where did you get the summons?

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 06:30 PM

Does a moving radar making a difference?

GonzoLays · 01-02-2007, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Not exactly...if he was just doing 20 over 55...that would be one thing...but 80 plus is automatic reckless and you are given the option of a lawyer. Even if it's reduced 5 miles...which is all you are going to get out of a "broken odometer" it's still reckless.

Call the clerk....ask if you can request Driving school on your situation. the number is on the summons the officer gave you.

Come on, you know the cop was ****ing with him. Ratboy seems as if he pissed his pants. The cop can talk all the ying/yang he wants about "reckless driving", but since Ratboy has never even had a ticket before and serves in the arm forces, I don't see a judge denying his broken odometer claim.

Plus he is a kid. They ain't ****in' with him unless he really was driving recklessly -- i.e. running over sidewalks, crossing eight cars at one, etc....

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

Does a moving radar making a difference?

No it really doesn't, but a lawyer would be able to better answer that.

In Virginia, most judges will let you take driving school for a first offense in the Commonwealth. I would call the clerk first to see what they say. Other wise I would do what Gonozo says and get a lawyer.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GonzoLays

Come on, you know the cop was ****ing with him. Ratboy seems as if he pissed his pants. The cop can talk all the ying/yang he wants about "reckless driving", but since Ratboy has never even had a ticket before and serves in the arm forces, I don't see a judge denying his broken odometer claim.

Plus he is a kid. They ain't ****in' with him unless he really was driving recklessly -- i.e. running over sidewalks, crossing eight cars at one, etc....

In the state of Virginia, 80 plus or twenty over is an automatic reckless driving ticket. The term "reckless" is arbitrary. At best he could get it reduced to an improper equipment conviction, but that is totally up to the judge. Even still, unless is odom is off by 8-10 miles...it's still reckless because it was in a 55 MPH zone.

GonzoLays · 01-02-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

In the state of Virginia, 80 plus or twenty over is an automatic reckless driving ticket. The term "reckless" is arbitrary. At best he could get it reduced to an improper equipment conviction, but that is totally up to the judge. Even still, unless is odom is off by 8-10 miles...it's still reckless because it was in a 55 MPH zone.

Yea, he still might end up with a speeding ticket, but nothing like he was facing before (reckless driving).

Ratboy -- it ain't the end of the world.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 07:01 PM

it's not the end of the world....I have had 6 tickets since 2000

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

it's not the end of the world....I have had 6 tickets since 2000

That sucks, i'm just worried it may effect me getting the Top Secret Clearance i need for my job and my supervisor punishing me.

Ofcoarse i always think negative on these things. I won't know till tomorrow.

Garcia Bronco · 01-02-2007, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

That sucks, i'm just worried it may effect me getting the Top Secret Clearance i need for my job and my supervisor punishing me.

Ofcoarse i always think negative on these things. I won't know till tomorrow.

We'll...call the clerk...then go see legal representation. I'm not familar with Hampton courts so I don't know what the judges will do. I don't think they would hold you off you TSC regardless, but you never know. But relax.....and watch your speed.

Ray Finkle · 01-02-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

That sucks, i'm just worried it may effect me getting the Top Secret Clearance i need for my job and my supervisor punishing me.

Ofcoarse i always think negative on these things. I won't know till tomorrow.

Unless you were smoking crack and being manually stimulated by a yak, then this should not effect your clearance. You can either take one of those online driving classes (that is what my wife did in the same situation) or just throw yourself on the mercy of the court (if you have a clean record, then it shouldn't be that bad). The worse thing they can do is suspend your license for 6 months (which happened to my wife but she had a ton of tickets).

When driving in VA, don't go over 70 in a 55 and you should be okay.....

Spider · 01-02-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

I was issued a Reckless Driving Ticket for doing 83 in a 55. It's my fault for not knowing the speed limit and going with the flow of traffic.

Should I look at getting a lawyer? I'm pretty scared ****less of the possibilities that can happen to me. This is my first ticket, but i don't know if it'll make a difference.

you done screwed up ........... probably sped in a work zone .......... Damn lucky your ass isnt in jail, Reckless is a heavy charge ........
what ever you do dont tell the judge you wasnt paying attention and just flowing with traffic ...........
i would go see the DA first , strike a deal, if a deal cant be made get a lawyer .As gonzo said , get a speedo repair ticket , that will cover about 7 mPH of that 83 , and yes that makes a difference ...........
Chances are you will walk away with Careless or even speeding

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 08:22 PM

It wasn't in a work zone.

Ratboy · 01-02-2007, 09:08 PM

"You should always contest a reckless driving charge. If there were no other issues during the stop most Virginia courts will reduce the violation to a simple speeding ticket. However this still carries a stiff point count with the possibility of a major increase in you auto insurance and a fine in the neighborhood of $500."

I'll have to find a lawyer. It's not something i can just show up for.

Spider · 01-02-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

It wasn't in a work zone.

ok ,it is Virginia , and if I remember right anything 80 mph + is a reckless ......
doesnt work that way here ...........I could be wrong but I dont think so

Spider · 01-02-2007, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

"You should always contest a reckless driving charge. If there were no other issues during the stop most Virginia courts will reduce the violation to a simple speeding ticket. However this still carries a stiff point count with the possibility of a major increase in you auto insurance and a fine in the neighborhood of $500."

I'll have to find a lawyer. It's not something i can just show up for.

See here in Wyoming we are not on a point system ........ 4 major moving Violations in a year , your lic. will be revoked

Hogan11 · 01-02-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratboy

"You should always contest a reckless driving charge. If there were no other issues during the stop most Virginia courts will reduce the violation to a simple speeding ticket. However this still carries a stiff point count with the possibility of a major increase in you auto insurance and a fine in the neighborhood of $500."

I'll have to find a lawyer. It's not something i can just show up for.

Not just a reckless driving charge, I'd contest every traffic charge that comes your way, even if you're blatently at fault...hey, it's your insurance rate that hangs in the balance. I know they're illegal in VA as well, but screw that crap and get a radar detector....be discreet when using it there in the People's Republic of VA though (ie. don't hang the thing from your visor) or they'll be on you in a heartbeat. Be cool about it.

Also check out the following books: http://www.amazon.com/Speeders-Guide...e=UTF8&s=books
http://www.amazon.com/Educated-Guide...457116-9166559

Sure it was written in 1990, but much of it's info is still valid...case in point, I got the book in '93 and I've successfully avoided/talked my way out of every pullover since....picking it up used for a buck something could help in preventing future situations like this...what do you have to lose?

Spider · 01-02-2007, 09:33 PM

In alot of States 80mph+ isnt reckless , at most you get a careless ....
Except for turnpikes , they are under a slightly different law , you can still get busted for speeding , but I dont remember the difference ...............
if I was in my Rig and got caught for 80mph+ in a 55 , my ass is in jail , no questions asked in any state , most troopers cut you a break ( depending on where you are , time of Day , road conditions etc) ...........

01-02-2007, 06:18 PM	#1
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	Reckless Driving - Virginia I was issued a Reckless Driving Ticket for doing 83 in a 55. It's my fault for not knowing the speed limit and going with the flow of traffic. Should I look at getting a lawyer? I'm pretty scared ****less of the possibilities that can happen to me. This is my first ticket, but i don't know if it'll make a difference.

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01-02-2007, 06:21 PM	#2
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Where are you living in my home state...Norfolk?

01-02-2007, 06:21 PM	#3
GonzoLays Five Tool Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,650 Adopt-a-Bronco: #3 DJ	Find a car repair shop that will do a repair order on a broken odometer and bring it to court. You should end up with a much smaller fine and no strikes against your driving record.

01-02-2007, 06:22 PM	#4
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	And relax...it happens..

01-02-2007, 06:30 PM	#10
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	Does a moving radar making a difference?

01-02-2007, 07:01 PM	#15
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,991 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	it's not the end of the world....I have had 6 tickets since 2000

01-02-2007, 08:22 PM	#20
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	It wasn't in a work zone.

01-02-2007, 09:08 PM	#21
Ratboy It's all over... ಠ_ಠ Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Okinawa, Japan Posts: 13,276	"You should always contest a reckless driving charge. If there were no other issues during the stop most Virginia courts will reduce the violation to a simple speeding ticket. However this still carries a stiff point count with the possibility of a major increase in you auto insurance and a fine in the neighborhood of $500." I'll have to find a lawyer. It's not something i can just show up for.

01-02-2007, 09:33 PM	#25
Spider Mr Diplomacy I survived Tebow Mania at the Mane Join Date: May 2001 Location: Elway was just an arm =MacGruder Posts: 84,438 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	In alot of States 80mph+ isnt reckless , at most you get a careless .... Except for turnpikes , they are under a slightly different law , you can still get busted for speeding , but I dont remember the difference ............... if I was in my Rig and got caught for 80mph+ in a 55 , my ass is in jail , no questions asked in any state , most troopers cut you a break ( depending on where you are , time of Day , road conditions etc) ...........