High defeinition electronic question - The Orange Mane

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:00 PM

i know this is off topic but i have seen a couple of people post these types of threads here before. i need some assistance on some electronics knowledge.
i am buying a high def. TV so that i can watch the playoff games. i bet somebody i would if the broncos made it to the playoffs. so i win all around.
my question is this whole wiring thing.
is HDMI better?
do all HDMI cables carry 1080i or 1080p signals?
would i get the same out of the s-video cable and the digital fiber optic cables?
is there really a difference and how much do you see between hdmi cables?

the salesman are trying to sell me the world and i really dont want to pay for the world. any help for a fellow bronco fan out there>

GO BRONCOS

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:04 PM

HDMI is just a type of interface. It's an option worth having

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:06 PM

As far as the difference between

S-Vid
Fiber
HDMI

I don't know, but just about any TV you buy will have the option for all three. If your town has over the AIR HD you don't need anything but the built in HD tuner and a 10 dollar set of rabbit ears. So the only thing you need for the playoffs is the TV itself

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:09 PM

i have direct TV. people are showing me all different types of HDMI cables. and everyone agrees on only 1 thing. that fiber optic sound cables are the elite. so is there a difference between all these different HDMI cables? 1 is 400 another is 600 another is 800. i mean this sounds retarded but i want to buy the right stuff. thanks
matt

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:10 PM

do all HDMI cables carry 1080i or 1080p signals?

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:11 PM

thanks for all and any advice

matt

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-29-2006, 04:13 PM

HDMI is an interface that carries both high-definition video and digital audio. 1080p is the highest of the high definitions, and that's where the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray standards are. You might see 1080i on some programming, but most HD programming is 720p.

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:13 PM

All I am saying is get that stuff later. Does your Sat tuner have HDMI? Do you own an HDMI device? Does anything you have use fiber...may a stereo you run your TV sound through?

I'm just trying to help you keep from spending money on stuff you don't need right now....or do you care?

Jens1893 · 12-29-2006, 04:14 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

wikipedia always has answers.

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:15 PM

After thinking about it....HDMI 1.3 is going to carry what the TV is capable of or the device the signal is coming from. Stand DVD players do 480p...if I ran it HDMI...it doesn't matter what the cable can do...it's coming out 480p because that's what the DVD disc is coded at

Dr. Broncenstein · 12-29-2006, 04:17 PM

I've been hoping for a lightning strike or an accidental golf-club-mishap to happen to my 3-year-old 57" Sony rear projection. I want one of those 72" DLP beauties. My wife is not too happy. She just doesn't understand that a man needs 1080p to run a respectable multimedia powerhouse computer these days.

Jens1893 · 12-29-2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

After thinking about it....HDMI 1.3 is going to carry what the TV is capable of or the device the signal is coming from. Stand DVD players do 480p...if I ran it HDMI...it doesn't matter what the cable can do...it's coming out 480p because that's what the DVD disc is coded at

A 360 with the HD DVD Drive is your friend, Garcia. HD DVDs do 1080p, I think.

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Broncenstein

I've been hoping for a lightning strike or an accidental golf-club-mishap to happen to my 3-year-old 57" Sony rear projection. I want one of those 72" DLP beauties. My wife is not too happy. She just doesn't understand that a man needs 1080p to run a respectable multimedia powerhouse computer these days.

I just got a 1080p Sony Wega SXRD rear projection. No cable...no sat...just over the air....it's sweet

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens1893

A 360 with the HD DVD Drive is your friend, Garcia. HD DVDs do 1080p, I think.

199.00 for the HDDVD drive, I was pissed the other night when I realized that the 360 doesn't do it standard.

Jens1893 · 12-29-2006, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I just got a 1080p Sony Wega SXRD rear projection. No cable...no sat...just over the air....it's sweet

How big?

Jens1893 · 12-29-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

199.00 for the HDDVD drive, I was pissed the other night when I realized that the 360 doesn't do it standard.

You got your 360 yet then? I need your gamertag.

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:22 PM

ok i have direct tv. it has a hdmi port as well as fiber optic port. i will be running all signals through a reciever that upcnverts all signals to 1080i, its new and state of the art. it also has 3 HDMI imports and 1 output as far as hdmi is concerned. this is why i ask is there a difference between the different hdmi cables or can i just get away with teh basic hdmi cable?

guys thanks for all and any help

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:24 PM

the 1080 p is a great tv. i was going to get before i considered the bravia 46" lcd xbr3 becasue it saves me space. i was going to get that 60" its great tv.

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jens1893

How big?

50 Inches. Not too big...not too small.

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncsyanks

ok i have direct tv. it has a hdmi port as well as fiber optic port. i will be running all signals through a reciever that upcnverts all signals to 1080i, its new and state of the art. it also has 3 HDMI imports and 1 output as far as hdmi is concerned. this is why i ask is there a difference between the different hdmi cables or can i just get away with teh basic hdmi cable?

guys thanks for all and any help

Previously, the maximum pixel rate of the interface, HDMI 1.0, was 165Mpixels/second, sufficient for supporting 1080p at 60Hz or WUXGA (1920x1080), but HDMI 1.3 increased that to 340Mpixels/second, providing support beyond the highest resolution computer monitors available today.

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:36 PM

thanks i appreciate that so if i got it str8 look for hdmi 1.3 for optimal performance. to go along with a fiber optic sound for the best. now if they could only figure out who will win the HD war. will it be blue ray or will it be HD-DVD. it comes down to this. do you want to play playstation 3 or xbox 360? every person told me that is the way to go if anyone is interested in this

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:37 PM

Bottom line....you can use 1.0 HDMI, but 1.3 will give you better opportunity for grwoth, but I would get the TV home before I bought 150.00 cable. Try to get them to throw it in. But I would eBay the cable you want to save cash. You can get the playoffs on over the air HD at what ever they broadcast NFL games on CBS..which I believe 1080i...might be 780p. They can tell you your tuner converts it to 1080 whatever, but you are still only getting whatever the source is giving you....

An axiom to remember is you can never get better than the source..period. A copy of a copy is never as good as the source...it is true in the digitial world

Garcia Bronco · 12-29-2006, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broncsyanks

thanks i appreciate that so if i got it str8 look for hdmi 1.3 for optimal performance. to go along with a fiber optic sound for the best. now if they could only figure out who will win the HD war. will it be blue ray or will it be HD-DVD. it comes down to this. do you want to play playstation 3 or xbox 360? every person told me that is the way to go if anyone is interested in this

You really can't go wrong with either one...howver your TOC(total cost of ownership) on the XBOX360 is more because you have to buy an external drive to view your HD-DVD's in 1080i(1080i in the max resolution the xBox 360 can do)

Sassy · 12-29-2006, 04:40 PM

I actually started a thread about tv's in the off topic section today

I'd love to buy a new tv...just don't have a clue about all the options...and don't get them!

broncsyanks · 12-29-2006, 04:40 PM

thanks garcia for all the "clarity" on this one. its much appreciated, these salesman are driving me nuts with all the advice, i told them to hold off and not be pushy. they did just that. i hate pushy salesmen.
thanks again
matt

mods can close this if neccessary
thanks

12-29-2006, 04:00 PM	#1
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	High defeinition electronic question i know this is off topic but i have seen a couple of people post these types of threads here before. i need some assistance on some electronics knowledge. i am buying a high def. TV so that i can watch the playoff games. i bet somebody i would if the broncos made it to the playoffs. so i win all around. my question is this whole wiring thing. is HDMI better? do all HDMI cables carry 1080i or 1080p signals? would i get the same out of the s-video cable and the digital fiber optic cables? is there really a difference and how much do you see between hdmi cables? the salesman are trying to sell me the world and i really dont want to pay for the world. any help for a fellow bronco fan out there> GO BRONCOS

12-29-2006, 04:37 PM	#22
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	Bottom line....you can use 1.0 HDMI, but 1.3 will give you better opportunity for grwoth, but I would get the TV home before I bought 150.00 cable. Try to get them to throw it in. But I would eBay the cable you want to save cash. You can get the playoffs on over the air HD at what ever they broadcast NFL games on CBS..which I believe 1080i...might be 780p. They can tell you your tuner converts it to 1080 whatever, but you are still only getting whatever the source is giving you.... An axiom to remember is you can never get better than the source..period. A copy of a copy is never as good as the source...it is true in the digitial world Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 12-29-2006 at 04:41 PM..

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Sassy Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: ND Posts: 37,952 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eddie Royal	I actually started a thread about tv's in the off topic section today I'd love to buy a new tv...just don't have a clue about all the options...and don't get them! Last edited by Sassy; 12-29-2006 at 04:43 PM..

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12-29-2006, 04:04 PM	#2
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	HDMI is just a type of interface. It's an option worth having

12-29-2006, 04:06 PM	#3
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	As far as the difference between S-Vid Fiber HDMI I don't know, but just about any TV you buy will have the option for all three. If your town has over the AIR HD you don't need anything but the built in HD tuner and a 10 dollar set of rabbit ears. So the only thing you need for the playoffs is the TV itself

12-29-2006, 04:09 PM	#4
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	i have direct TV. people are showing me all different types of HDMI cables. and everyone agrees on only 1 thing. that fiber optic sound cables are the elite. so is there a difference between all these different HDMI cables? 1 is 400 another is 600 another is 800. i mean this sounds retarded but i want to buy the right stuff. thanks matt

12-29-2006, 04:10 PM	#5
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	do all HDMI cables carry 1080i or 1080p signals?

12-29-2006, 04:11 PM	#6
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	thanks for all and any advice matt

12-29-2006, 04:13 PM	#7
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	HDMI is an interface that carries both high-definition video and digital audio. 1080p is the highest of the high definitions, and that's where the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray standards are. You might see 1080i on some programming, but most HD programming is 720p.

12-29-2006, 04:14 PM	#9
Jens1893 Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Location: People´s Republic of Bad Cannstatt Posts: 9,170	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI wikipedia always has answers.

12-29-2006, 04:15 PM	#10
Garcia Bronco Hokie since 1993 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 45,987 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tom Jackson	After thinking about it....HDMI 1.3 is going to carry what the TV is capable of or the device the signal is coming from. Stand DVD players do 480p...if I ran it HDMI...it doesn't matter what the cable can do...it's coming out 480p because that's what the DVD disc is coded at

12-29-2006, 04:17 PM	#11
Dr. Broncenstein Overdriven Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Sterile Fields Posts: 11,610 Adopt-a-Bronco: Wesley Woodyard	I've been hoping for a lightning strike or an accidental golf-club-mishap to happen to my 3-year-old 57" Sony rear projection. I want one of those 72" DLP beauties. My wife is not too happy. She just doesn't understand that a man needs 1080p to run a respectable multimedia powerhouse computer these days.

12-29-2006, 04:22 PM	#17
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	ok i have direct tv. it has a hdmi port as well as fiber optic port. i will be running all signals through a reciever that upcnverts all signals to 1080i, its new and state of the art. it also has 3 HDMI imports and 1 output as far as hdmi is concerned. this is why i ask is there a difference between the different hdmi cables or can i just get away with teh basic hdmi cable? guys thanks for all and any help

12-29-2006, 04:24 PM	#18
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	the 1080 p is a great tv. i was going to get before i considered the bravia 46" lcd xbr3 becasue it saves me space. i was going to get that 60" its great tv.

12-29-2006, 04:36 PM	#21
broncsyanks Broncos kick a$$!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nyc, NY Posts: 917	thanks i appreciate that so if i got it str8 look for hdmi 1.3 for optimal performance. to go along with a fiber optic sound for the best. now if they could only figure out who will win the HD war. will it be blue ray or will it be HD-DVD. it comes down to this. do you want to play playstation 3 or xbox 360? every person told me that is the way to go if anyone is interested in this