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Old 12-17-2006, 03:55 PM   #126
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Yeah I know. Here is the video from what I was talking about.

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Yep. That slap pops.
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Old 12-17-2006, 03:58 PM   #127
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Yep. That slap pops.
Thats what I am saying. Other angles clearly show it a slap but man that thing popped like a punch. Still can't believe hit and ran like that. Maybe he was backing up to take on less as they came but just looks sissy like on tape.
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Old 12-17-2006, 04:01 PM   #128
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Thats what I am saying. Other angles clearly show it a slap but man that thing popped like a punch. Still can't believe hit and ran like that. Maybe he was backing up to take on less as they came but just looks sissy like on tape.
What made it worse was that that little bugger mini-gangster-wannabe Nate Robinson charged after him while Anthony retreated.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:25 PM   #129
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This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach.

And as far as Melo running away, it looked to me like it was one of those "Oh ****, what did I just do?" things.
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This makes you sick. You should see the stuff that happened back in the day. I forgot his name but back in the days some dude came and totally sucker punched a guy hardcore. ARGH his name was mentioned numerous times and I can't remember it now.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:48 PM   #131
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this is a pretty funny post coming from someone who did or did not send an e-mail to an unnamed cities newspaper to tattle tale on someone who disagrees with them. And then not own up to it like a real man would. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
This is a pretty funny post considering the author is quoting Tensi the racist, bigot and liar. Who are some of your other heroes...... Anthony?

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Meck and SnitchSlug feel the same way. Can't say that I am shocked.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:50 PM   #132
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The one hardcore punch I remember was against Rudy Tom. I can't remember who did the punching. I remember Bill Laimbeer doing some incredibly dirty things.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:52 PM   #133
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The one hardcore punch I remember was against Rudy Tom. I can't remember who did the punching. I remember Bill Laimbeer doing some incredibly dirty things.
Thats the one. Rudy T was nailed on that one. Just looked it up and it was Kermit Washington. That was just a nasty punch.
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:40 PM   #134
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Yeah curse those NBA players that stomp on a prone opponents head with cleats on!!
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For the members of the east coast media calling for Carmelo to be suspended for anywhere from 10-30 games, dream on.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6550352/

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72-x Ron Artest, Indiana Pacers, (for the remainder of the season) for fighting with fans in the final minute of a game at Detroit Pistons on Nov. 19, Nov. 21, 2004.

68 Latrell Sprewell, Golden State Warriors, (for one year) after “physically assaulting” coach P.J. Carlesimo during a practice, Dec. 4, 1997. Arbitrator John Feerick overturned the Warriors’ termination of the Sprewell’s contract and reduced his one-year suspension by five months, ending July 1.

30-x Stephen Jackson, Indiana Pacers, for fighting with fans in the final minute of a game at Detroit on Nov. 19, Nov. 21, 2004.

26 Kermit Washington, L.A. Lakers, (60 days) for punching Houston’s Rudy Tomjanovich, 1977.

25-x Jermaine O’Neal, Indiana Pacers, for fighting with fans in the final minute of a game at Detroit on Nov. 19, Nov. 21, 2004.

11 Dennis Rodman, Chicago Bulls, and fined $25,000 for kicking a courtside television photographer, Jan. 17, 1997.

10 Vernon Maxwell, Houston Rockets, for going into the stands and hitting a fan, Feb. 6, 1995.

7 Nick Van Exel, L.A. Lakers, and fined $25,000 for shoving a referee, April 9, 1996.

6 Ben Wallace, Detroit Pistons, for shoving Indiana’s Ron Artest after a foul led to the 5-minute fracas in the final minute of a game against the Pacers on Nov. 19, Nov. 21, 2004.

6 Dennis Rodman, Chicago Bulls, and fined $20,000 for head-butting a referee, March 18, 1996
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So these people honestly believe that Carmelo deserves a longer suspension than guys who attacked fans and referees? Please.

He'll likely get 5 games at the most and that will be that. He's already apologized for the incident and the hype surrounding this has died out pretty quickly.
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This is a pretty funny post considering the author is quoting Tensi the racist, bigot and liar. Who are some of your other heroes...... Anthony?
Ah, in chimes Tensi's 5th dimension mirror image.

Further attempting to rub the guys name in the dirt after a "random lurker" (ahem) got him fired from his job for what he posted on the internet just shows the depths that you have sunken to. Trying to slander his name any more only makes you look more guilty and even more petty. You will never be perceived the same on this board agan.
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Just as a side note, I was at the game where Nick The Quit shoved the referee onto the scorers table. That was the one and only time I got to see Magic Johnson play live.
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Just as a side note, I was at the game where Nick The Quit shoved the referee onto the scorers table. That was the one and only time I got to see Magic Johnson play live.
Awesome.

I find it funny that NVE has an almost mythical reputation here in Dallas. He helped us knock off a couple of teams in the playoffs and said some things that Dallas fans wanted to hear, but he was a volume shooter who was bound to eventually sink the ship if he had stayed. Cuban did a good job of getting him out of there before he sunk the ship.
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Kind of what I expect to happen, although Thomas should get 6 games IMO.
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NEW YORK -- Stu Jackson was not a happy man when I reached him by cell phone Sunday morning, which means it'll be a Black Monday for Carmelo Anthony, Nate Robinson, J.R. Smith and a whole bunch of others.


"We're taking this very seriously," Jackson told ESPN.com, giving an early indication that he won't be handing out garden-variety punishments to the Knicks and the Nuggets for their Saturday night fight.

Penalties are expected to be announced Monday, and expect Jackson to come down hard, not because this was as bad of a fight as the one at the Palace of Auburn Hills just over two years ago, which it wasn't, but because it reminded everybody of the Palace brawl.

Three or four years ago this type of altercation would have been written off with a bunch of one- to four-game suspensions, but the game changed after Ron Artest went into the stands and Jermaine O'Neal slugged a fan who came onto the court. And with these types of events now being viewed through a post-Palace prism, with the NBA still reeling from such a major black eye, and with this fight having taken place right in David Stern's backyard, the smart money says the punishments are going to raise some eyebrows.

Here's an educated guess at how Jackson will rule:

Anthony will get hit the hardest for his sucker punch that decked Mardy Collins, a haymaker that could have become a secondary flash point that turned this into an even bigger brawl. Prediction: 8 games.

Robinson actually did provide the flash point that turned this from an altercation to a fight, running into the fray and grappling with J.R. Smith in a tussle that nearly spilled into the first row of seats. Prediction: 6 games.

Smith had every right to get up and confront Mardy Collins after the hard foul, but he had no right to throw a punch at Robinson just before the two were separated. Prediction: 3 games.

Jared Jeffries was held back at midcourt from going after Anthony, who backpedaled away after slugging Collins. But Jeffries was ready to take this fight to an even more chaotic level, and they'll get him for intent on this one. Prediction: 1 game.

Collins' foul was so egregiously flagrant, he stands a better than fair chance of being hit with more than the standard one-game suspension for a flagrant category 2 foul. He also committed a similar foul the previous night in Indiana in the waning moments of another lopsided loss. Prediction: 2 games.

Jerome James of the Knicks and Nene of the Nuggets appeared to leave the bench area during the fight, a well-established no-no. Prediction: 1 game each.

Isiah Thomas is the trickiest call of the bunch, and a lot will depend on what he tells Jackson -- and what Anthony tells Jackson -- over the phone. Anthony says Thomas, who was angry that the Nuggets were still playing four starters despite being up 19 with under 2 minutes left, told him a minute or so before the brawl that he should stay out of the paint -- pretty much a warning that a hard foul was coming. That would make Thomas culpable for helping incite the brawl, and instigators never get off lightly with Stu and his boss, David Stern. Prediction: 3 games.
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I would say that is fair. Melo was stupid in doing what he did. Although it wasn't a sucker punch. He popped off and Melo turned and hit him. A sucker punch is a punch where you hit a man not looking. Still it was dumb and he needs to learn to walk away and point to the scoreboard. He was working his way into being one of the faces of the NBA now they are going to step back a little I bet.
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I couldn't care less about the NBA...but that "fight" is nothing more than a media creation. If a dude Anthony's size, and with his strength...leverage...et al...really sucker punched someone they'd be down. I don't think he even connected.

That wasn't a fight...that a multi-millionaire version of grab ass.
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Old 12-18-2006, 02:18 AM   #142
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Well, good to know my New Year's Eve tickets are now worthless. Not to say I only go to games to see Melo, but without him we're ****ed. Especially against the Mavs.

Anyways, to chime in... I didn't read the thread, but what a ****ty situation. Knicks started it, Nuggets finished it, suspensions all around.

Melo didn't sucker punch the guy. Melo may have run away instantly, but a sucker punch it wasn't. You can even see Carmelo turn his head and say "WHAT?" before punching him... Meaning the guy must have said something ****ty. But you'd hope your superstar player would be smart enough to not throw a punch.

Good to know the Knicks instantly admitted to trying to start a fight on purpose by saying the flagrant was a called play. Isiah is a trip.

Karl shouldn't have had the guys in though. The Knicks were correct on that point.

And from a personal accolades point of view, I'm going to feel sorry if this stops Melo from making the All-Star Team, which it very well may.

Poor Nuggets.
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I couldn't care less about the NBA...but that "fight" is nothing more than a media creation. If a dude Anthony's size, and with his strength...leverage...et al...really sucker punched someone they'd be down. I don't think he even connected.

That wasn't a fight...that a multi-millionaire version of grab ass.
Oh he connected go click on that thread I linked. You could clearly hear the Pop, and it was a smack to boot.
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Well, good to know my New Year's Eve tickets are now worthless. Not to say I only go to games to see Melo, but without him we're ****ed. Especially against the Mavs.

Anyways, to chime in... I didn't read the thread, but what a ****ty situation. Knicks started it, Nuggets finished it, suspensions all around.

Melo didn't sucker punch the guy. Melo may have run away instantly, but a sucker punch it wasn't. You can even see Carmelo turn his head and say "WHAT?" before punching him... Meaning the guy must have said something ****ty. But you'd hope your superstar player would be smart enough to not throw a punch.

Good to know the Knicks instantly admitted to trying to start a fight on purpose by saying the flagrant was a called play. Isiah is a trip.

Karl shouldn't have had the guys in though. The Knicks were correct on that point.

And from a personal accolades point of view, I'm going to feel sorry if this stops Melo from making the All-Star Team, which it very well may.

Poor Nuggets.
Well someone on this board rhetorically wondered how the League was going to keep Melo out of the All-Star game this year...

Here's to idle musings, and how fate has a habit of showing you...
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Further attempting to rub the guys name in the dirt after a "random lurker" (ahem) got him fired from his job for what he posted on the internet just shows the depths that you have sunken to. Trying to slander his name any more only makes you look more guilty and even more petty. You will never be perceived the same on this board agan.
Hey "God's child", being the hypocrite and liar you are, you fit right in the Tensi character mold.
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This is a pretty funny post considering the author is quoting Tensi the racist, bigot and liar. Who are some of your other heroes...... Anthony?


Ah, in chimes Tensi's 5th dimension mirror image.


This post right here shows me you know more about someone like Brad Pitt personally more than you know about Steve Tensi13 personally, even though you had almost daily postings with him.

Oh well, I guess it's nice to think you know more than you really do.
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Yeah, can we take the posts that are about some drama that apparently happened in another forum that I could care less about and move them back to that forum?

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The good news is, there are 6 games between now and new year's eve.

Come on Stern, sit Melo for 6 and let him play the Mavs.
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I would say that is fair. Melo was stupid in doing what he did. Although it wasn't a sucker punch. He popped off and Melo turned and hit him. A sucker punch is a punch where you hit a man not looking. Still it was dumb and he needs to learn to walk away and point to the scoreboard. He was working his way into being one of the faces of the NBA now they are going to step back a little I bet.
Carmelo Anthony is a b****, straight up. He went around an assistant coach trying to break it up and threw the punch, it wasnt like he was in the guys face. If the guy was selling woof tickets then fight the guy, don't sucker punch the guy and then run off. If you're man enough to throw the punch, then be man enough to go toe-to-toe.

Melo just opened up a youth center, what is he teaching those kids, that it's ok to act like a thug? I hope Stern lays the law down on his punk ass.
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Carmelo Anthony is a b****, straight up. He went around an assistant coach trying to break it up and threw the punch, it wasnt like he was in the guys face. If the guy was selling woof tickets then fight the guy, don't sucker punch the guy and then run off. If you're man enough to throw the punch, then be man enough to go toe-to-toe.Melo just opened up a youth center, what is he teaching those kids, that it's ok to act like a thug? I hope Stern lays the law down on his punk ass.
It's not even that, cooler head prevailed. He knew he was wrong once he threw it so back off and don't get into more to make the suspension longer.
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