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Old 12-12-2006, 09:58 PM   #101
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From what I've heard from the same source that Nuggs cited earlier, Boston has offered the best package (he didn't name names) but the 76ers are petrified by the idea of trading Iverson to a division rival.

I know, it seems silly to pass up the best deal on the table for that reason, but that appears to be the case.
So that is what pouring salt on a wound is. I always wondered about that!
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:59 PM   #102
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All you nuggets fans dont' get me wrong right now. I'm just hating because I want Iverson on the Celtics. That's it. I'm a hater. If you land Iverson for Nene, I might jump off a roof because I know we have the better offer but since we play in the same division as Philly, they really don't want to deal with us.

AARRGGH. I have wasted my whole day waiting for this trade.
That's downright neighborly of you.

At least on the flip side...you have better odds of landing KG being in the East and having everyone tie up "funds" going for Iverson.
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So that is what pouring salt on a wound is. I always wondered about that!
Just repeating what I heard. Nothing everyone probably didn't already assume.

Again, I'm still not believing that Iverson is coming to Denver until there's an official announcement. My hopes have been dashed far too many times.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:02 PM   #105
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From what I've heard from the same source that Nuggs cited earlier, Boston has offered the best package (he didn't name names) but the 76ers are petrified by the idea of trading Iverson to a division rival.

I know, it seems silly to pass up the best deal on the table for that reason, but that appears to be the case.
See, and that is just stupidity. Plain stupidity. The Sixers KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO SUCK FOR THE NEXT TWO SEASONS, who gives a flying **** what Iverson does? He is traded. He is no longer a Sixer, does it really matter if plays in Seattle or Boston? He has nothing to do with the Sixers anymore. It is not as if the Sixers are going to challenge the Celtics for the Atlantic Division crown in the next three years.

Good grief. I know we have the best deal on the table.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:03 PM   #106
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Man this is like when we were in the Labron lottery and the NFL fixed it for him to go to Cleveland. I was so dissapointed b/c we ended up coming in 3rd in picking. I just knew Detroit was going to take Melo. Then we got Melo and I was so excited for Nuggs basketball again. This trade can take us to the next level if it pans out. AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHH! I am getting to excited.
It's best we didn't ...Kiki was looking mighty hard at Darko.

Not to say he's a bust. Maybe he might even be great...especially with some confidence early...

But I can live with being third.

I bet Dumars would love to have that one back though
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:03 PM   #107
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Why Philly would trade AI to Boston is beyond me. Looks like they are not to keen either so at least that says something. I mean that would be like us trading Champ Bailey to Kansas City. Just makes no sense.
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I don't think Mchale trades Garnett to us. He already traded Wally Z to Boston.

If he ended up trading Garnett to Boston, he would have essentially traded his two best players to Boston and we didn't send Paul Pierce back in return.

He can't make that move. That is a career killer.
Come on, he owes his CAREER to Boston...it's all a master plan by Red.
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See, and that is just stupidity. Plain stupidity. The Sixers KNOW THEY ARE GOING TO SUCK FOR THE NEXT TWO SEASONS, who gives a flying **** what Iverson does? He is traded. He is no longer a Sixer, does it really matter if plays in Seattle or Boston? He has nothing to do with the Sixers anymore. It is not as if the Sixers are going to challenge the Celtics for the Atlantic Division crown in the next three years.

Good grief. I know we have the best deal on the table.
Exactly. So if you're going to suck ass for two years and be frontrunners in the Greg Oden & OJ Mayo sweepstakes', why would you give a rip what Boston does during that time? By the time the 76ers are ready to be competitive again, Iverson will either be well past his prime or retired.
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It's best we didn't ...Kiki was looking mighty hard at Darko.

Not to say he's a bust. Maybe he might even be great...especially with some confidence early...

But I can live with being third.

I bet Dumars would love to have that one back though
Kiki also threw all that money at Martin and tried to say the team needed to revolve around him not Melo. I thought Kiki was great at dumping all that salary but man his thinking was just retarded. Darko was never going to have the impact that Lebron of Melo has had.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:09 PM   #111
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Why Philly would trade AI to Boston is beyond me. Looks like they are not to keen either so at least that says something. I mean that would be like us trading Champ Bailey to Kansas City. Just makes no sense.

Basketball is a little different from football. There rivalries are not as heated. No one on the Boston Celtics' board has a sig that says "Philly sucks" or no one even starts a thread thats says "Philly lost again! ya-hoo." Same for the Philly board. I think the reason being is because there are 82 games a year and we only play Philly like 6 times. Too many games played to hate another team. Besides, eight teams in the NBA make the playoffs so division crowns aren't that big of deal. And remember, Toronto traded VC to New Jersey and we all play in the Atlantic.
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It's best we didn't ...Kiki was looking mighty hard at Darko.
Everyone said they would have taken Darko 2nd that year
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Everyone said they would have taken Darko 2nd that year
It was pretty well known that Kiki wanted Darko. One of Kiki's absolute biggest problems was his love for projects.

The Nuggets got so lucky to end up with Carmelo that it's not even funny. Several things had to break their way for that to happen.
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Just repeating what I heard. Nothing everyone probably didn't already assume.
Oh I know, I was just trying to tease Gonzo.
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By the time the 76ers are ready to be competitive again, Iverson will either be well past his prime or retired.
See, I don't think so. You can compare Iverson's body type and wear and tear to WRs in the NFL. Guys like Keenan McCardell, Rod Smith, Jerry Rice and James Lofton were great, great players at age 35. No one can say with a straight face that Iverson has taken more pounding going into the lane in the NBA than Rod Smith has going over the middle in the NFL. ANd you know WR's rely on speed (somewhat) to get open.

Allen Iverson is one of the greatest athletes of our generation. No one can really dispute that. I think he is money for the next six seasons. He is only 31 years old. I see no reason for a drop off. If Jason Kidd can put down 38 pts, 14 rebounds and 13 assists like he did against Phoenix the other night as a 34 year old coming off microfracture surgery, I see no reason why Iverson still cannot dominate well into his mid 30's.

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Oh I know, I was just trying to tease Gonzo.
And it worked, b****!! I'm delirious! Gonzo need sleep.
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See, I don't think so. You can compare Iverson's body type and wear and tear to WRs in the NFL. Guys like Keenan McCardell, Rod Smith, Jerry Rice and James Lofton were great, great players at age 35. No one can say with a straight face that Iverson has taken more pounding going into the lane in the NBA than Rod Smith has going over the middle in the NFL. ANd you know WR's rely on speed (somewhat) to get open.

Allen Iverson is one of the greatest athletes of our generation. No one can really dispute that. I think he is money for the next six seasons. He is only 31 years old. I see no reason for a drop off. If Jason Kidd can put down 38 pts, 14 rebounds and 13 assists like he did against Phoenix the other night as a 34 year old coming off microfracture surgery, I see no reason why Iverson still cannot dominate well into his mid 30's.
Perhaps Philly sees it the same way you do. I guess that would explain why they don't want to send him to Boston.
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See, I don't think so. You can compare Iverson's body type and wear and tear to WRs in the NFL. Guys like Keenan McCardell, Rod Smith, Jerry Rice and James Lofton were great, great players at age 35. No one can say with a straight face that Iverson has taken more pounding going into the lane in the NBA than Rod Smith has going over the middle in the NFL. ANd you know WR's rely on speed (somewhat) to get open.

Allen Iverson is one of the greatest athletes of our generation. No one can really dispute that. I think he is money for the next six seasons. He is only 31 years old. I see no reason for a drop off. If Jason Kidd can put down 38 pts, 14 rebounds and 13 assists like he did against Phoenix the other night as a 34 year old coming off microfracture surgery, I see no reason why Iverson still cannot dominate well into his mid 30's.
I tend to agree with this. I don't know how much money he would demand when he re-ups in 2 or 3 years, but I think he'll be good. If guys like Sam Cassell can start in this league currently, I think AI could. How old is Sam, anyways? He's gotta be like 35. At least 33, I would imagine. He played on those Rocket championship teams like 10 years ago.
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Holy Crap.

If we get him for Nene and two firsts I'm all for it.

Then possibly we could trade Miller for a SF.
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Holy Crap.

If we get him for Nene and two firsts I'm all for it.

Then possibly we could trade Miller for a SF.
Doesnt Melo play SF? Shouldnt that be PF?
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From what I've heard from the same source that Nuggs cited earlier, Boston has offered the best package (he didn't name names) but the 76ers are petrified by the idea of trading Iverson to a division rival.

I know, it seems silly to pass up the best deal on the table for that reason, but that appears to be the case.
That's because he's an NBA GM. Seriously, they are the worst GM's in all of sports.

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Holy Crap.

If we get him for Nene and two firsts I'm all for it.

Then possibly we could trade Miller for a SF.
If we have AI, JR and Melo, we're going to need SOMEONE who doesn't need to jack up shots. Trading Dre would be pretty damn foolish IMO. ASSUMING that it's Nene, Najera and Joe Smith (with picks) for AI and Ollie, this gives us two possibilities for lineups.

# AI, Dre, Midget, Ollie
# JR, Yakouba
# Melo, Kleiza
# Evans, KMart*
# Camby, Sampson

or

# Dre, Ollie
# AI, Midget
# JR, Yakouba
# Melo, Kleiza, KMart*
# Camby, Evans

* = injured with strained vagina

One thing's for sure, all of a sudden we're thin up front. I'd LOVE it if we could deal the midget instead of Eddie, but I'm not sure if that would happen. Hopefully Earl's out of town one way or another.

Oh, and because I like watching the panic here, the "insider" just posted that if Portland approves the deal in the morning (they're the third team), AI will be a Nugget by the afternoon.
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Oh, and because I like watching the panic here, the "insider" just posted that if Portland approves the deal in the morning (they're the third team), AI will be a Nugget by the afternoon.
I read the same thing, but I thought that Nene & Joe Smith couldn't be traded until the 15th?
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That's because he's an NBA GM. Seriously, they are the worst GM's in all of sports.



If we have AI, JR and Melo, we're going to need SOMEONE who doesn't need to jack up shots. Trading Dre would be pretty damn foolish IMO. ASSUMING that it's Nene, Najera and Joe Smith (with picks) for AI and Ollie, this gives us two possibilities for lineups.

# AI, Dre, Midget, Ollie
# JR, Yakouba
# Melo, Kleiza
# Evans, KMart*
# Camby, Sampson

or

# Dre, Ollie
# AI, Midget
# JR, Yakouba
# Melo, Kleiza, KMart*
# Camby, Evans

* = injured with strained vagina

One thing's for sure, all of a sudden we're thin up front. I'd LOVE it if we could deal the midget instead of Eddie, but I'm not sure if that would happen. Hopefully Earl's out of town one way or another.

Oh, and because I like watching the panic here, the "insider" just posted that if Portland approves the deal in the morning (they're the third team), AI will be a Nugget by the afternoon.
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