General Hockey Thread v3.0 - Page 21 - The Orange Mane

Nuggets4 · 11-30-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by claviculasolomonis

Beware the penguins

Doo be doo be doo...

alkemical · 11-30-2006, 11:35 AM

lol -

my team has some weakness that i won't deny - and crosby is figuring out how to own the game. Once malkin gets that down - we will be a bit more dangerous.

24champ · 12-01-2006, 01:42 AM

5,140 at the St. Louis game tonight...In all fairness it was 30 degrees with rain, sleet and snow flurries. Not exactly the weather you want to pile the family into the car and drive to downtown in but still must be crappy to play in front of a crowd like that in the NHL.

24champ · 12-01-2006, 01:48 AM

This is funny but who says good luck before a fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNUTSTRnz8

broncocalijohn · 12-01-2006, 04:10 AM

Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

broncocalijohn · 12-01-2006, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 24champbailey

This is funny but who says good luck before a fight?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNUTSTRnz8

I think that was a way of saying, " we're brawling!" BTW: What is up with losing to Phoenix last two times. I thought they were the worst in our division. I guess i was wrong.

24champ · 12-01-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn;13http://www.orangemane.com/BB/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=138114381143

I think that was a way of saying, " we're brawling!" BTW: What is up with losing to Phoenix last two times. I thought they were the worst in our division. I guess i was wrong.

Were like Jerkyll and Hyde right now, we just beat the Devils and should have won our third straight game but...
I tell you what's wrong....Cloutier. Hate to say it but Bronx33 was right but I was hoping he would pan out. Now we have serious goalie problems and Garon is injured which means beachball will start a few games, we just called up Brust from the AHL and NOT Labarbera because of the re-entry waivers. I do like what Im seeing from the kids though this year ala Frolov, Brown, Cammalleri, and Kopitar. I suspect we will get more prospects at the trading deadline and we have Boyle and Jack Johnson for the future, I should reiterate that there is NO expectations from the Kings this year.

alkemical · 12-01-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

I don't think the pens can beat the sens or sabers come playoff time. But beyond that i don't think there is a team in the east my pens couldn't give a headache to.

now they need some more help on W and on the blueline - but really - we don't have as complete a team as alot of other teams. We are relying on 'star power'.

Guys like Eaton (FU Cheechoooooo, i guess this is karma for eric cole) - D. Moore, etc - have really helped - but next year, year after is when the pens make some noise.

Malkin will not be a rook, and neither will Staal - if we can upgrade a few W positions and a few D holes, the pens are a cup contender IMO.

Bronx33 · 12-01-2006, 04:57 PM

Guess who this is...

Pendejo · 12-01-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx33

Guess who this is...

Artie Lange?

Bronx33 · 12-01-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pendejo

Artie Lange?

Close but no....

Bronx33 · 12-01-2006, 08:16 PM

To tell ya the truth i totally forgot about this....

http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hoc...76096-sun.html

A year of whispering, waiting and speculation is about to get very noisy and troubling for Rick Tocchet.

The twisted walls of justice are closing in on him with the prognosis for his future being anything but encouraging.

Tocchet is all but certain to be hauled before a New Jersey grand jury, with his alleged partners in a major league gambling ring ready to sing a tune on him he doesn't want to hear.

Three men were charged last February with taking in more than 1,000 wagers totalling $1.7 million US on professional sporting events over a six-week period culminating with this year's Super Bowl game.

Two of the men have now cut deals -- and part of their plea agreements have come with the clear understanding they will point their fingers squarely at the celebrity name who remains on leave and supposedly under investigation by the National Hockey League.

The state trooper, James Harney, has already agreed to do seven years in prison for his part in the gambling ring. He will testify against Tocchet.

The third man charged, James Ulmer, will plead guilty today in a New Jersey court and part of his agreement he will spend upwards of one year behind bars. He will turn evidence on Tocchet.

That leaves the former hockey star from Scarborough in the unfortunate position of last man standing.

"It's bad news, the question is how bad is it?" legal analyst Rob Becker told Prime Time Sports on the Fan590 last night. "You have to wonder what happens next...

I wouldn't want to be Rick Tocchet."

If the dirty cop Harney has agreed to a sentence as lengthy as seven years, the question is, what offer, if any, awaits Tocchet? And how much time will he be looked upon to serve if he is found guilty for money laundering or any of the other crimes he is charged with.

"This isn't good for him (Tocchet)," Becker said. "It looks like they're going after the famous guy."

Or in the case of basically any hockey player in the United States not named Gretzky, the almost famous guy. And in this case, identified as the Gretzky associate, working for The Great One in Phoenix, allegedly handling bets from Mrs. Great One.

This can't be considered good news of any kind for the NHL, which is apparently are investigated Tocchet themselves but have never progressed very far, choosing to stay away from interfering with the legal process.

But the name Gretzky is certain to come up if this case does proceed to grand jury as expected. In fact, Janet Gretzky, according to New Jersey authorities, will be subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury if the case goes that far.

Names undoubtedly will be named. Names we know. Who booked the bets? Who placed the bets? What sport was bet on? What amounts?

A little black book of dirty little secrets is almost certain to be revealed before an audience that won't be tantalized by the exposure that most Canadian hockey watchers will.

The first real target of the investigation was Harney, the former State Trooper. But when he cooperated and agreed to seven years and Ulmer cooperated and will agree today to his plea, that pushed the apparently uncooperative Tocchet into a place with little room for negotiation.

Assuming the case proceeds as anticipated, this could end up as lose-lose situation for the former assistant coach, for the league, for anyone who happens to be named under oath. After the original charges were laid just prior to the Olympic Games in Turin, newspaper leaks and speculation was rampant, seemingly poisoning the State's case. Then everything went silent: Nobody said anything for months. Some speculated the case against Tocchet would be dropped. Some believed that because the State hadn't gone forward against Tocchet, it had no clear cut evidence.

That doesn't seem possible anymore.

"You have to wonder," Becker said, "what happens next."

SoCalBronco · 12-02-2006, 02:20 PM

from Eklund

With Leopold Back....

Today @ 12:54 PM ET | Comments (25)

Everyone is speculating that the Avs will move a d-man...I am hearing that it may not be who everyone is speculating about...from my souces, I am hearing that the Avs feel they are still very much in this thing and are looking to get something substantial. Moving a Klee will not bring you a top two line forward. Liles will. Remember this is the team that moved a top guy Tanguay to get Leopold.

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-02-2006, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by broncocalijohn

Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots
Getzlap again with winning goal.

Why would the Caps be worried about the Pens? The majority of Caps fans don't care what happen's in their 2nd year of rebuilding.

Clockwork Orange · 12-02-2006, 08:29 PM

Ovechkin strips Afinogenov, makes the defenseman look silly as he blows past him and scores. Just an amazing individual effort from coast to coast.

Add that one to the highlight reel.

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-02-2006, 08:47 PM

Miller got pulled after that. 4-1 Caps now, still in the 1st.

Clockwork Orange · 12-02-2006, 09:22 PM

Wow, Ovechkin tossed for boarding after a nasty hit from behind on Briere.

Hercules Rockefeller · 12-02-2006, 10:25 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lnw3bou2NA

Video of the hit. Ovechkin was not going full speed when he hit Briere.

Mtbrncofn · 12-03-2006, 01:05 AM

Wow. The Sabres were pretty pissed, I'd say.

Did anyone else happen to notice when they showed the scrum behind the net, someone tried to kick the guy that was down on the ice? That can't be good.

theAPAOps5 · 12-03-2006, 01:09 AM

Why did Theodore get pulled after the 1st period tonight. I was flipping between the Nugs, the football games, and the Avs and never heard why.

Mtbrncofn · 12-03-2006, 01:12 AM

Ok, I looked again. Maybe he was just losing his footing.

Clockwork Orange · 12-03-2006, 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ApaOps5

Why did Theodore get pulled after the 1st period tonight. I was flipping between the Nugs, the football games, and the Avs and never heard why.

They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.

Bronx33 · 12-03-2006, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.

Jezzzzz first hemsky and now smyth....

Pendejo · 12-03-2006, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork Orange

They said it was a hip injury.

While we're talking about injuries, it appears that the Oilers will be without Ryan Smyth for 4-6 weeks. He fractured his thumb in the game against Columbus tonight.

Was there any retribution by the Oilers the other night...for Liles' hit on Smyth in their previous game?

broncocalijohn · 12-04-2006, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller

Why would the Caps be worried about the Pens? The majority of Caps fans don't care what happen's in their 2nd year of rebuilding.

The point was that there are a couple of Caps fans here at the mane. Caps would worry about a team in their own conference than fans here that root for Ducks, Kings, Avs, Wings ie. Western Conference.

12-01-2006, 08:16 PM	#512
Bronx33 No More Whining Camaraderie-ship for all Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 47,736 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von	Tocchet update To tell ya the truth i totally forgot about this.... http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Hoc...76096-sun.html A year of whispering, waiting and speculation is about to get very noisy and troubling for Rick Tocchet. The twisted walls of justice are closing in on him with the prognosis for his future being anything but encouraging. Tocchet is all but certain to be hauled before a New Jersey grand jury, with his alleged partners in a major league gambling ring ready to sing a tune on him he doesn't want to hear. Three men were charged last February with taking in more than 1,000 wagers totalling $1.7 million US on professional sporting events over a six-week period culminating with this year's Super Bowl game. Two of the men have now cut deals -- and part of their plea agreements have come with the clear understanding they will point their fingers squarely at the celebrity name who remains on leave and supposedly under investigation by the National Hockey League. The state trooper, James Harney, has already agreed to do seven years in prison for his part in the gambling ring. He will testify against Tocchet. The third man charged, James Ulmer, will plead guilty today in a New Jersey court and part of his agreement he will spend upwards of one year behind bars. He will turn evidence on Tocchet. That leaves the former hockey star from Scarborough in the unfortunate position of last man standing. "It's bad news, the question is how bad is it?" legal analyst Rob Becker told Prime Time Sports on the Fan590 last night. "You have to wonder what happens next... I wouldn't want to be Rick Tocchet." If the dirty cop Harney has agreed to a sentence as lengthy as seven years, the question is, what offer, if any, awaits Tocchet? And how much time will he be looked upon to serve if he is found guilty for money laundering or any of the other crimes he is charged with. "This isn't good for him (Tocchet)," Becker said. "It looks like they're going after the famous guy." Or in the case of basically any hockey player in the United States not named Gretzky, the almost famous guy. And in this case, identified as the Gretzky associate, working for The Great One in Phoenix, allegedly handling bets from Mrs. Great One. This can't be considered good news of any kind for the NHL, which is apparently are investigated Tocchet themselves but have never progressed very far, choosing to stay away from interfering with the legal process. But the name Gretzky is certain to come up if this case does proceed to grand jury as expected. In fact, Janet Gretzky, according to New Jersey authorities, will be subpoenaed to testify before the grand jury if the case goes that far. Names undoubtedly will be named. Names we know. Who booked the bets? Who placed the bets? What sport was bet on? What amounts? A little black book of dirty little secrets is almost certain to be revealed before an audience that won't be tantalized by the exposure that most Canadian hockey watchers will. The first real target of the investigation was Harney, the former State Trooper. But when he cooperated and agreed to seven years and Ulmer cooperated and will agree today to his plea, that pushed the apparently uncooperative Tocchet into a place with little room for negotiation. Assuming the case proceeds as anticipated, this could end up as lose-lose situation for the former assistant coach, for the league, for anyone who happens to be named under oath. After the original charges were laid just prior to the Olympic Games in Turin, newspaper leaks and speculation was rampant, seemingly poisoning the State's case. Then everything went silent: Nobody said anything for months. Some speculated the case against Tocchet would be dropped. Some believed that because the State hadn't gone forward against Tocchet, it had no clear cut evidence. That doesn't seem possible anymore. "You have to wonder," Becker said, "what happens next."

12-02-2006, 02:20 PM	#513
SoCalBronco Nixonite Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Monrovia, CA Posts: 46,170 Adopt-a-Bronco: D.J. Williams	from Eklund With Leopold Back.... Today @ 12:54 PM ET \| Comments (25) Everyone is speculating that the Avs will move a d-man...I am hearing that it may not be who everyone is speculating about...from my souces, I am hearing that the Avs feel they are still very much in this thing and are looking to get something substantial. Moving a Klee will not bring you a top two line forward. Liles will. Remember this is the team that moved a top guy Tanguay to get Leopold. __________________ Merci Flower and Good Luck!

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11-30-2006, 11:35 AM	#502
alkemical Chaos Technician Aethyr Engineering Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: 4th dimension Posts: 43,373 Adopt-a-Bronco: Eris	lol - my team has some weakness that i won't deny - and crosby is figuring out how to own the game. Once malkin gets that down - we will be a bit more dangerous.

12-01-2006, 01:42 AM	#503
24champ Obi-Wan Phillips Keep Calm and Chive on Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nakatomi Plaza Posts: 22,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandstarter	5,140 at the St. Louis game tonight...In all fairness it was 30 degrees with rain, sleet and snow flurries. Not exactly the weather you want to pile the family into the car and drive to downtown in but still must be crappy to play in front of a crowd like that in the NHL.

12-01-2006, 01:48 AM	#504
24champ Obi-Wan Phillips Keep Calm and Chive on Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Nakatomi Plaza Posts: 22,568 Adopt-a-Bronco: Brandstarter	This is funny but who says good luck before a fight? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zNUTSTRnz8

12-01-2006, 04:10 AM	#505
broncocalijohn Famer of Rings I said Do It! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 30,945 Adopt-a-Bronco: Simon Fletcher	Penguins are in Eastern league. Very few here arent worried except the Capital fans. We already had Penguins and they were tasty. BTW: Another tasty victory on the road for the Ducks. Giguere 1 goal 23 shots Getzlap again with winning goal.

12-01-2006, 04:57 PM	#509
Bronx33 No More Whining Camaraderie-ship for all Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Lakewood,Colo Posts: 47,736 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von	Guess who this is...

12-02-2006, 08:29 PM	#515
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,352	Ovechkin strips Afinogenov, makes the defenseman look silly as he blows past him and scores. Just an amazing individual effort from coast to coast. Add that one to the highlight reel.

12-02-2006, 08:47 PM	#516
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	Miller got pulled after that. 4-1 Caps now, still in the 1st.

12-02-2006, 09:22 PM	#517
Clockwork Orange Persona Non Grata I seen him! Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,352	Wow, Ovechkin tossed for boarding after a nasty hit from behind on Briere.

12-02-2006, 10:25 PM	#518
Hercules Rockefeller Ring of Famer Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 16,669 Adopt-a-Bronco: DJ Williams	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lnw3bou2NA Video of the hit. Ovechkin was not going full speed when he hit Briere.

12-03-2006, 01:05 AM	#519
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,491	Wow. The Sabres were pretty pissed, I'd say. Did anyone else happen to notice when they showed the scrum behind the net, someone tried to kick the guy that was down on the ice? That can't be good.

12-03-2006, 01:09 AM	#520
theAPAOps5 A new beginning! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 33,950 Adopt-a-Bronco: Watermock - RIP	Why did Theodore get pulled after the 1st period tonight. I was flipping between the Nugs, the football games, and the Avs and never heard why.

12-03-2006, 01:12 AM	#521
Mtbrncofn Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Bigfork, MT Posts: 8,491	Ok, I looked again. Maybe he was just losing his footing.