One thing George Foster (and almost our entire O-line) is missing... - The Orange Mane

Taco John · 11-24-2006, 06:28 AM

A mean streak.

OrangeShadow · 11-24-2006, 06:50 AM

i completely agree, foster seems like a pansy. I dont know what it is but losing lepsis hurt big time

watermock · 11-24-2006, 07:02 AM

That would be cool if it showed something from Foster

fontaine · 11-24-2006, 08:17 AM

A mean streak?

The only guy that realistically has the size to maul/pancake DL is Foster and he's not doing it.

Not sure how a 280 lb Guard or C is supposed to body slam bigger DL. They're plenty mean considering they play on the edges of unwritten football rules regarding cut blocking.

baja · 11-24-2006, 08:41 AM

Losing Lepsis was was the back breaker for us on O.

atomicbloke · 11-24-2006, 08:45 AM

The loss of Lepsis hurt us more than people think.

bpc · 11-24-2006, 11:08 AM

Keep in mind that McNeil of the Chargers was also playing with two broken hands in that clip which makes him even more nasty.

I think our line will be fine. I really like Pears, I think he and Meadows should vie for the starting RT position next year. Lepsis will come back and man the LT. I think it is not unreasonable to think that Kuper CAN win the RG spot and then Ham and Nails at the C and LG positions.

We'll be fine on the OLine, it just sucks to know that Foster is a piece of crap. That is what you get though when you draft a guy who had 6 or 7 career starts on the offensive line. Tenacity is not something that is developed... usually a player already has it or not. FOSTER never had it. Not at George, definitely not in Denver.

rugbythug · 11-24-2006, 11:11 AM

That slam would not be that hard. Like a wwf move. Watch the clip. EE jumps to block the pass. This allows the LT to get under him.

-Slap- · 11-24-2006, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bpc

We'll be fine on the OLine, it just sucks to know that Foster is a piece of crap. That is what you get though when you draft a guy who had 6 or 7 career starts on the offensive line. Tenacity is not something that is developed... usually a player already has it or not. FOSTER never had it. Not at George, definitely not in Denver.

I hate anytime we draft anybody who hasn't produced much in college. Every time we draft based on potential we get screwed. Chris Cole and Paul Toviessi are prime examples.

Arkansas Bronco · 11-24-2006, 11:44 AM

Holding!!!!!

spdirty · 11-24-2006, 11:48 AM

Someone watch Foster in that game last night. I could swear whenever Jake would drop back in 5 or 7 steps, he didnt have any time because Hali was on his ass the whole game. 3 step drops were the only time Foster didn't let his man by him in pass protection.

The guy is horrible. Hopefully will play in 10 days or Cutler is gonna be screwed.

-Slap- · 11-24-2006, 11:54 AM

Not to excuse Foster's failures, but a bunch of us predicted Hali would be an excellent defensive lineman. That was the guy I wanted us to draft before all the tradeups.

spdirty · 11-24-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

Not to excuse Foster's failures, but a bunch of us predicted Hali would be an excellent defensive lineman. That was the guy I wanted us to draft before all the tradeups.

Not that I care to watch Mullet games, but Id like to see what he does against a competent RT. I know this...the guy was lookin like Taylor out there last night.

-Slap- · 11-24-2006, 12:01 PM

He's having a strong rookie season.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/412000

spdirty · 11-24-2006, 12:04 PM

damn.

bloodsunday · 11-24-2006, 12:30 PM

This whole team needs a mean streak right now. The D had one earlier in the season.

bpc · 11-24-2006, 12:33 PM

Hali brings it... Foster does not. Bad situation for us.

You would think a guy playing for his job would play a little harder or better...

NOPE!

manchambo · 11-24-2006, 01:11 PM

I think Foster showed his heart last night: i.e., that he completely lacks one. Guy gets a little more than a game to watch and get real pissed that he got benched, get a chance to come back and redeem himself, and comes in and plays with less intensity than he did before he got benched.

Popps · 11-24-2006, 01:17 PM

Add to the wish list a D-Tackle with one of those mean streaks, as well.

bpc · 11-24-2006, 01:38 PM

We should have signed Rod Coleman when we had a chance to. That guy had a mean streak and has played well for the Falcons through his first two years there.

Foster is a bust. It is worst when you consider LJ, who ran all over us yesterday and basically every game he has started against us, was drafted 7 spots after George Foster. (By the way, never draft a OT who has knock knees!)

Other plays we could have had besides LJ: Willis McGahee, Anquan Boldin, Pisa Tinoisamoa, LJ Smith, Dewayne White, Jason Witten, Angelo Crowell,

AlphaOmega · 11-24-2006, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

A mean streak.

The loss of Coach Gibbs has impacted the O-line the most! We have slowly declined without him! He brought the attitude to that unit!

Popps · 11-24-2006, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bpc

We should have signed Rod Coleman when we had a chance to. That guy had a mean streak and has played well for the Falcons through his first two years there.

Foster is a bust. It is worst when you consider LJ, who ran all over us yesterday and basically every game he has started against us, was drafted 7 spots after George Foster. (By the way, never draft a OT who has knock knees!)

Other plays we could have had besides LJ: Willis McGahee, Anquan Boldin, Pisa Tinoisamoa, LJ Smith, Dewayne White, Jason Witten, Angelo Crowell,

Add Foster to the many weird picks from that era like Terry Pierce.

How about Tommie Harris? We would have had to bump up a few spots, but that's a guy we were in range to get.

Don't get me started on all the d-line talent we've passed on for second rate CBs, WRs and other various washouts.

elsid13 · 11-24-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Popps

Add Foster to the many weird picks from that era like Terry Pierce.

How about Tommie Harris? We would have had to bump up a few spots, but that's a guy we were in range to get.

Don't get me started on all the d-line talent we've passed on for second rate CBs, WRs and other various washouts.

If the stories from Dove Valley are true, they tried to trade up for Harris, but couldn't

-Slap- · 11-24-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by manchambo

I think Foster showed his heart last night: i.e., that he completely lacks one. Guy gets a little more than a game to watch and get real pissed that he got benched, get a chance to come back and redeem himself, and comes in and plays with less intensity than he did before he got benched.

Sadly, I believe you're right. A guy with pride would have taken the field like a man possessed last night. I think George has either quit on Denver or he's one of those guys who's content to be a backup. Mark Cooper Disease.

Mile High Shack · 11-24-2006, 02:06 PM

there were some black years in drafting from about 1999 to 2003, very very strange occurences.

George Foster is just another in the long line of busted "talent" that was drafted that year

I'm just glad people finally realize what those of us who have seen it for 2 years saw

Foster sucks

11-24-2006, 06:28 AM	#1
Taco John 24/7 Broncos In Elway I Trust Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 49,697 Adopt-a-Bronco: Peyton Manning	One thing George Foster (and almost our entire O-line) is missing... A mean streak.

11-24-2006, 08:17 AM	#4
fontaine Ring of Famer Go John Manning! Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,422	A mean streak? The only guy that realistically has the size to maul/pancake DL is Foster and he's not doing it. Not sure how a 280 lb Guard or C is supposed to body slam bigger DL. They're plenty mean considering they play on the edges of unwritten football rules regarding cut blocking. Last edited by fontaine; 11-24-2006 at 08:59 AM..

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11-24-2006, 06:50 AM	#2
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	i completely agree, foster seems like a pansy. I dont know what it is but losing lepsis hurt big time

11-24-2006, 07:02 AM	#3
watermock "Hoodie Jr" "Hug me!" Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hot Springs, Ouachitah Posts: 77,090	That would be cool if it showed something from Foster

11-24-2006, 08:41 AM	#5
baja It is what it Is. Pay attention. Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 53,747 Adopt-a-Bronco: Buy My Book	Losing Lepsis was was the back breaker for us on O.

11-24-2006, 08:45 AM	#6
atomicbloke Ring of Famer La 12 Boca Juniors Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,347 Adopt-a-Bronco: Offensive Line	The loss of Lepsis hurt us more than people think.

11-24-2006, 11:08 AM	#7
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,566 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Keep in mind that McNeil of the Chargers was also playing with two broken hands in that clip which makes him even more nasty. I think our line will be fine. I really like Pears, I think he and Meadows should vie for the starting RT position next year. Lepsis will come back and man the LT. I think it is not unreasonable to think that Kuper CAN win the RG spot and then Ham and Nails at the C and LG positions. We'll be fine on the OLine, it just sucks to know that Foster is a piece of crap. That is what you get though when you draft a guy who had 6 or 7 career starts on the offensive line. Tenacity is not something that is developed... usually a player already has it or not. FOSTER never had it. Not at George, definitely not in Denver.

11-24-2006, 11:11 AM	#8
rugbythug Church Eyes. Salty Dog Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,785 Adopt-a-Bronco: Mr. Miller	That slam would not be that hard. Like a wwf move. Watch the clip. EE jumps to block the pass. This allows the LT to get under him.

11-24-2006, 11:44 AM	#10
Arkansas Bronco Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Arkansas Posts: 5,237 Adopt-a-Bronco: Ryan Clady	Holding!!!!!

11-24-2006, 11:48 AM	#11
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,883 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	Someone watch Foster in that game last night. I could swear whenever Jake would drop back in 5 or 7 steps, he didnt have any time because Hali was on his ass the whole game. 3 step drops were the only time Foster didn't let his man by him in pass protection. The guy is horrible. Hopefully will play in 10 days or Cutler is gonna be screwed.

11-24-2006, 11:54 AM	#12
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	Not to excuse Foster's failures, but a bunch of us predicted Hali would be an excellent defensive lineman. That was the guy I wanted us to draft before all the tradeups.

11-24-2006, 12:01 PM	#14
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	He's having a strong rookie season. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/412000

11-24-2006, 12:04 PM	#15
spdirty Ring of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bailey Posts: 13,883 Adopt-a-Bronco: Koppen	damn.

11-24-2006, 12:30 PM	#16
bloodsunday Ring of Famer Nothing lasts forever. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dove Valley Posts: 5,839 Adopt-a-Bronco: Spencer Larsen	This whole team needs a mean streak right now. The D had one earlier in the season.

11-24-2006, 12:33 PM	#17
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,566 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	Hali brings it... Foster does not. Bad situation for us. You would think a guy playing for his job would play a little harder or better... NOPE!

11-24-2006, 01:11 PM	#18
manchambo Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,213	I think Foster showed his heart last night: i.e., that he completely lacks one. Guy gets a little more than a game to watch and get real pissed that he got benched, get a chance to come back and redeem himself, and comes in and plays with less intensity than he did before he got benched.

11-24-2006, 01:17 PM	#19
Popps TEAM FIRST. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 29,785	Add to the wish list a D-Tackle with one of those mean streaks, as well.

11-24-2006, 01:38 PM	#20
bpc "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit" 1 sword keeps another in the sheath Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Northern California Posts: 12,566 Adopt-a-Bronco: Von Miller	We should have signed Rod Coleman when we had a chance to. That guy had a mean streak and has played well for the Falcons through his first two years there. Foster is a bust. It is worst when you consider LJ, who ran all over us yesterday and basically every game he has started against us, was drafted 7 spots after George Foster. (By the way, never draft a OT who has knock knees!) Other plays we could have had besides LJ: Willis McGahee, Anquan Boldin, Pisa Tinoisamoa, LJ Smith, Dewayne White, Jason Witten, Angelo Crowell,

11-24-2006, 02:06 PM	#25
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	there were some black years in drafting from about 1999 to 2003, very very strange occurences. George Foster is just another in the long line of busted "talent" that was drafted that year I'm just glad people finally realize what those of us who have seen it for 2 years saw Foster sucks