Jake's performance product of not being tested - The Orange Mane

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 09:31 AM

This is by no means a Jake hater thread b/c we are all tired of those, and personally I like him as a person. However, I just wanted to point out that his recent success in these last two weeks boils down to two things (Indy - running game effective, Pitt - jumped out to 14-0 lead). I think the important thing to realize is that Jake is Jake - and for some reason people are quickly thinking he is all the sudden capable of winning big games.

Indy game - effective b/c the running game was successful, thus allowing him to boot and get out onto the edge. Furthermore, he was rarely placed in a tough 3rd and long situation.

Pitt game - he was playing from ahead the entire game, which as we know jake with a lead is much much different than jake from behind.

finally, there have been several moments in both games where he was fortunate balls weren't picked; he has continued to struggle from the pocket as he always does. He has not changed and never will - therefore we need to enjoy this season b/c it will be successful, but ultimately know deep down inside that we will never win a super bowl with plummer at the healm - boiling it down - do not get a false sense of hope thinking this team can win the big one - b/c jake will sh** and piss his pants when the pressure game arises. "ZEBRAS DO NOT CHANGE THEIR STRIPES."

Mile High Shack · 11-08-2006, 09:35 AM

good lord

again

he played against the same team that tore him a new one just a few months ago in the AFC Championship game and we still had no run game

jake played fine

shut up

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 09:37 AM

He didn't have a 14-0 lead either did he? you give shanahan that kind of lead it's going to be hard to beat the Denver Broncos

crush17 · 11-08-2006, 09:39 AM

dude find some other dead horse to beat ffs.

rbackfactory80 · 11-08-2006, 09:45 AM

Yeah he's halfway through the season and has not been tested. I am sure he was very comfortable playing with a 4 point lead at Pittsburgh also. For you information 100 percent of Qb's at sometime during their games on Sunday almost throw picks.

riiiiick · 11-08-2006, 09:47 AM

how did he get that 14 pt lead? "hasn't won the big one" is true of everyone until they win the big one. also, your odds of being right on this are very good, since only 1 QB a year out of 32 can win the big one. that's what sports is all about, you go with your guys against the other guys to win it all. i sure would not wanted to ever have you for a team mate. "We can't", "it's no use", "it could never happen", "it's impossible to win" - geez, get off my team would be my response to you.

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 09:55 AM

First of all buddy, i am not down on this team nor am i pessimistic. I think i have a better understanding of reality than you may - probably because despite me loving the this franchise as much as you - I am able to remove my personal bias and look at things objectively with common sense. Secondly, the big one does not just refer to the superbowl - it is a term that I used referring to any big pressure game, whether that be regular season or post season. Deep down inside, though you would never get it out of them, if you asked the experienced veterans on this team if they truly felt Jake could lead this team to a superbowl, they would say no.

Crushaholic · 11-08-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

This is by no means a Jake hater thread

Thanks for the laugh. I needed it today...

BMF Bronco · 11-08-2006, 10:06 AM

Honestly, can't we figure out a way to instill the ****ing 100 post rule?! This **** is getting out of hand!

Beantown Bronco · 11-08-2006, 10:08 AM

Indy game - effective b/c the running game was successful, thus allowing him to boot and get out onto the edge. Furthermore, he was rarely placed in a tough 3rd and long situation.

Pitt game - he was playing from ahead the entire game, which as we know jake with a lead is much much different than jake from behind.

Looking back at the 98 season, we had a hell of a running game and always played with a lead.....I guess that means Elway sucked and couldn't win the big one. Great logic.

Merlin · 11-08-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

I am able to remove my personal bias and look at things objectively with common sense.

Yeah, that is painfully obvious. Next time you might want to try and not remove all doubt...

Beantown Bronco · 11-08-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

Deep down inside, though you would never get it out of them, if you asked the experienced veterans on this team if they truly felt Jake could lead this team to a superbowl, they would say no.

And you call this looking at things "objectively"?!? That statement is the very essence of looking at something and giving a subjective opinion. Unbelievable.

I'm really just sorry I wasted my 30 seconds of time on this.....

riiiiick · 11-08-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

First of all buddy, i am not down on this team nor am i pessimistic. I think i have a better understanding of reality than you may - probably because despite me loving the this franchise as much as you - I am able to remove my personal bias and look at things objectively with common sense. Secondly, the big one does not just refer to the superbowl - it is a term that I used referring to any big pressure game, whether that be regular season or post season. Deep down inside, though you would never get it out of them, if you asked the experienced veterans on this team if they truly felt Jake could lead this team to a superbowl, they would say no.

yes, we are buddies and fellow bronco fans. according to your conviction regarding all the exp. vets on this team, are you saying they all knew before the Pitt game last year they were going to lose

since they all knew in their heart, no way can jake get us to the SB, they must have all surrendered to fate? no wonder the D couldn't stop one 3rd down!

Popps · 11-08-2006, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

He didn't have a 14-0 lead either did he? you give shanahan that kind of lead it's going to be hard to beat the Denver Broncos

Well, cool then. It's settled. Gain leads on teams and don't collapse out of the gate on defense and put our offense in 14-30 point **** holes in the first half of big games........... and we'll never lose.

There, that was easy.

Alkazar · 11-08-2006, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

Deep down inside, though you would never get it out of them, if you asked the experienced veterans on this team if they truly felt Jake could lead this team to a superbowl, they would say no.

I've been down on Jake early this year as well, but to say this after he has led us to consecutive playoff appearances the past three years is simply absurd. Do you have inside information you're basing this on? Are you inside the locker room with the players? Because if I were to guess about their feelings, I would probably think they feel the same as I do, that while they were dissapointed in Jake's performance early, they are confident he has the talent to lead this team to the AFCCG again and possibly beyond. He does not need to be the Hero that Elway was because we have so much talent at most of the other positions now.

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 10:42 AM

you guys can bash me all you want, b/c you are entitled to your opinions as am I and I honestly do respect them - I am not trying to be a prick here, just trying to give an opinion which was clearly jumped on. All I can say is in the end, we will see if Jake is as great as you deem him to be. I'll remember this thread and at the conclusion of his career, we'll see who was right.

Dr. Broncenstein · 11-08-2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigAl56

you guys can bash me all you want, b/c you are entitled to your opinions as am I and I honestly do respect them - I am not trying to be a prick here, just trying to give an opinion which was clearly jumped on. All I can say is in the end, we will see if Jake is as great as you deem him to be. I'll remember this thread and at the conclusion of his career, we'll see who was right.

I'll tell you this much n00b... you do not have adopt-a-bronc rights to Al Wilson. He's mine... you never asked for co-adoptee rights.... nor would I have granted them to you. Also, see the 100 post rule.

sirhcyennek81 · 11-08-2006, 11:14 AM

Until 1997, you could have said that Elway will never win the big one. Also, we are not in that game, so why do you even worry? Enjoy the season as it unfolds. Its raiders week.

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 11:15 AM

I think you might have a little too much time on your hands to worry about stuff like that. wow! you're a pretty cool guy doc.

Dr. Broncenstein · 11-08-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

I think you might have a little too much time on your hands to worry about stuff like that. wow! you're a pretty cool guy doc.

Well first off you come in flaming up the board with a redundantly redundant retarded thread... then you claim my adoptee. Maybe you should look at the 2006 adopt a bronc thread, to see how it works... or just be an asshat.

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 11:19 AM

by the way doctor, with a name like that i'm surprised you have time for anything outside of worrying about your money

Dr. Broncenstein · 11-08-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl56

by the way doctor, with a name like that i'm surprised you have time for anything outside of worrying about your money

Yeah... you get rich as a surgical resident. I was just about to back my truck up to the money tree we keep out back until I noticed that my baby was abducted.

Billy Clyde Puckett · 11-08-2006, 11:23 AM

I'm thinking we need some type of football IQ test here before people can post. Couple of real doozies have shown up lately.

BigAl56 · 11-08-2006, 11:23 AM

not talking about your profession dumbass, your heritage

crush17 · 11-08-2006, 11:24 AM

LADIES, LADIES!

calm down!

11-08-2006, 09:31 AM	#1
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	Jake's performance product of not being tested This is by no means a Jake hater thread b/c we are all tired of those, and personally I like him as a person. However, I just wanted to point out that his recent success in these last two weeks boils down to two things (Indy - running game effective, Pitt - jumped out to 14-0 lead). I think the important thing to realize is that Jake is Jake - and for some reason people are quickly thinking he is all the sudden capable of winning big games. Indy game - effective b/c the running game was successful, thus allowing him to boot and get out onto the edge. Furthermore, he was rarely placed in a tough 3rd and long situation. Pitt game - he was playing from ahead the entire game, which as we know jake with a lead is much much different than jake from behind. finally, there have been several moments in both games where he was fortunate balls weren't picked; he has continued to struggle from the pocket as he always does. He has not changed and never will - therefore we need to enjoy this season b/c it will be successful, but ultimately know deep down inside that we will never win a super bowl with plummer at the healm - boiling it down - do not get a false sense of hope thinking this team can win the big one - b/c jake will sh** and piss his pants when the pressure game arises. "ZEBRAS DO NOT CHANGE THEIR STRIPES."

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11-08-2006, 09:35 AM	#2
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	good lord again he played against the same team that tore him a new one just a few months ago in the AFC Championship game and we still had no run game jake played fine shut up

11-08-2006, 09:37 AM	#3
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	He didn't have a 14-0 lead either did he? you give shanahan that kind of lead it's going to be hard to beat the Denver Broncos

11-08-2006, 09:39 AM	#4
crush17 orange & blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 2,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	dude find some other dead horse to beat ffs.

11-08-2006, 09:45 AM	#5
rbackfactory80 Ring of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New York Posts: 4,617	Yeah he's halfway through the season and has not been tested. I am sure he was very comfortable playing with a 4 point lead at Pittsburgh also. For you information 100 percent of Qb's at sometime during their games on Sunday almost throw picks.

11-08-2006, 09:47 AM	#6
riiiiick Solid Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 238	how did he get that 14 pt lead? "hasn't won the big one" is true of everyone until they win the big one. also, your odds of being right on this are very good, since only 1 QB a year out of 32 can win the big one. that's what sports is all about, you go with your guys against the other guys to win it all. i sure would not wanted to ever have you for a team mate. "We can't", "it's no use", "it could never happen", "it's impossible to win" - geez, get off my team would be my response to you.

11-08-2006, 09:55 AM	#7
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	First of all buddy, i am not down on this team nor am i pessimistic. I think i have a better understanding of reality than you may - probably because despite me loving the this franchise as much as you - I am able to remove my personal bias and look at things objectively with common sense. Secondly, the big one does not just refer to the superbowl - it is a term that I used referring to any big pressure game, whether that be regular season or post season. Deep down inside, though you would never get it out of them, if you asked the experienced veterans on this team if they truly felt Jake could lead this team to a superbowl, they would say no.

11-08-2006, 10:06 AM	#9
BMF Bronco Offseason sucks... Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bozeman, MT Posts: 11,724 Adopt-a-Bronco: ME	Honestly, can't we figure out a way to instill the **ing 100 post rule?! This ** is getting out of hand!

11-08-2006, 10:08 AM	#10
Beantown Bronco Athletic Supporter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mass Posts: 19,046 Adopt-a-Bronco: Matt Prater	Indy game - effective b/c the running game was successful, thus allowing him to boot and get out onto the edge. Furthermore, he was rarely placed in a tough 3rd and long situation. Pitt game - he was playing from ahead the entire game, which as we know jake with a lead is much much different than jake from behind. Looking back at the 98 season, we had a hell of a running game and always played with a lead.....I guess that means Elway sucked and couldn't win the big one. Great logic.

11-08-2006, 10:42 AM	#16
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	you guys can bash me all you want, b/c you are entitled to your opinions as am I and I honestly do respect them - I am not trying to be a prick here, just trying to give an opinion which was clearly jumped on. All I can say is in the end, we will see if Jake is as great as you deem him to be. I'll remember this thread and at the conclusion of his career, we'll see who was right.

11-08-2006, 11:14 AM	#18
sirhcyennek81 Yes...swooping is bad... Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Florence, Colorado Posts: 20,681 Adopt-a-Bronco: All of them.	Until 1997, you could have said that Elway will never win the big one. Also, we are not in that game, so why do you even worry? Enjoy the season as it unfolds. Its raiders week.

11-08-2006, 11:15 AM	#19
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	I think you might have a little too much time on your hands to worry about stuff like that. wow! you're a pretty cool guy doc.

11-08-2006, 11:19 AM	#21
BigAl56 Rookie Attempt more 3-4 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 86 Adopt-a-Bronco: Al Wilson	by the way doctor, with a name like that i'm surprised you have time for anything outside of worrying about your money

11-08-2006, 11:23 AM	#23
Billy Clyde Puckett Billy=Semi Tough Big Guy Looking down on KC, SD and Oakland Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: between 5,000 and 10,000 feet elevation Posts: 12,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: John Elway	I'm thinking we need some type of football IQ test here before people can post. Couple of real doozies have shown up lately.

11-08-2006, 11:24 AM	#25
crush17 orange & blue Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Posts: 2,665 Adopt-a-Bronco: DT88	LADIES, LADIES! calm down!