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Old 10-29-2006, 11:32 PM   #1
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When you get right down to it, he's the reason we lost today... Not our offense. Not our defense. Not our adjustments. Not our non-adjustments. Not a fumble, not a blown pass coverage.

It was Peyton Manning, who kept answering the challenge play after play. They've got a great offense and will definitely be a team contending late this year. My hat goes off to them, and to Peyton Manning, the closest thing to John Elway in the game today.
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challenge?

Since when was playing toss with Wayne a challenge? Don't distract this...we lost because Coyer and the Defense didn't adjust and they were owned (especially the d-line and DW to a lesser extent IMO).
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:35 PM   #3
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Yeah watching all the highlights he managed the game and put his offense where they needed to be in order to make plays. Unfortunately he found a hole in Darrent and noone on Denver compensated for that. The guy was amazing today and we still almost one. You never accept a loss but damn our team played well itself today.
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Since when was playing toss with Wayne a challenge? Don't distract this...we lost because Coyer and the Defense didn't adjust and they were owned (especially the d-line and DW to a lesser extent IMO)...
...and Jake
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He is a joy to watch.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:36 PM   #6
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It's easy to answer tha challenge when being covered by Darrent all day. Nice game plan....it seems I've seen this before.
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When you get right down to it, he's the reason we lost today... Not our offense. Not our defense. Not our adjustments. Not our non-adjustments. Not a fumble, not a blown pass coverage.

It was Peyton Manning, who kept answering the challenge play after play. They've got a great offense and will definitely be a team contending late this year. My hat goes off to them, and to Peyton Manning, the closest thing to John Elway in the game today.
The Marino comparisons, both style wise and achievement wise are more apt.
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We did not lose because of Jake. That's pure BS.
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:39 PM   #9
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You give anyone that amount of time along with the cushion to throw and they can pick apart the defense. Sage Rosenfels could have done a decent job. Our defense played scared all day and it was sickening...
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What would be a joy to watch would be him against KC's wannabe Defence that would be truly amazing.
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When you get right down to it, he's the reason we lost today... Not our offense. Not our defense. Not our adjustments. Not our non-adjustments. Not a fumble, not a blown pass coverage.

It was Peyton Manning, who kept answering the challenge play after play. They've got a great offense and will definitely be a team contending late this year. My hat goes off to them, and to Peyton Manning, the closest thing to John Elway in the game today.

I bet NE would tell you that you are full of crap!
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The Marino comparisons, both style wise and achievement wise are more apt.
Agreed.
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We did not lose because of Jake. That's pure BS.
I know, but given the mood around here with a bunch of threads and posts from the "experts" whom I wonder if they even watched the game, I couldnt resist. Jake played his ass off today.

I can't blame a certain player or coordinator for this one. We had em where we wanted em, and a couple slips cost us.
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The Marino comparisons, both style wise and achievement wise are more apt.

You're probably right, stylewise. But I'm talking field presence, which I think Elway had over Marino in spades. I think Peyton beats everyone in the league there, and most players throughout history.

We're watching a hall of famer in action here. I don't think enough people keep that in perspective when they watch the guy play ball.
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We watch Hall of Famers every week, in practically every game.

I think you're suffering some post traumatic shock syndrome. Pop in a tape of him against New England, or any 3-4 defense who commits to punching him in the mouth, and he looks a lot more human.
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You're probably right, stylewise. But I'm talking field presence, which I think Elway had over Marino in spades. I think Peyton beats everyone in the league there, and most players throughout history.

We're watching a hall of famer in action here. I don't think enough people keep that in perspective when they watch the guy play ball.
I think he is the best quarterback in the league without a doubt. Better than Marsha in fact. But he will never win a super bowl as long as him, Wayne, and Harrison are taking up all that cap space. No way a rushing defense that bad will have a prayer at winning the bowl.
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One thing is certain. You have to get to Peyton Manning. If you don't, he'll be the one doing the punching.
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Absolutely, right on.

I know he's had some mediocre playoff games but this guy is unreal. I know he was not pressured at all, but to negotiate a team in that crowd noise is unreal.
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We watch Hall of Famers every week, in practically every game.

I think you're suffering some post traumatic shock syndrome. Pop in a tape of him against New England, or any 3-4 defense who commits to punching him in the mouth, and he looks a lot more human.
So you think we should get rid of Coyer and bring back Wade next year?
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Since when was playing toss with Wayne a challenge? Don't distract this...we lost because Coyer and the Defense didn't adjust and they were owned (especially the d-line and DW to a lesser extent IMO).
This is right on the money...

We lost, yes because Peyton is the best in the business. But how did he beat us?

He found the weakest link in our defense, and teamed with an abover average WR, he exploited the crap out of it.

When that started happening it is our D's responsibility to make adjustemnts, give Darrent some help, and stop the bleeding.

It was obvious he wasn't up to the task, why we left him all by himself for teh entire second half is beyond me. We should have done something to stop that.
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One thing is certain. You have to get to Peyton Manning. If you don't, he'll be the one doing the punching.
Peyton doesn't punch. No sir, what he does is do that Indiana Jones Temple of Doom thing where the voodoo guy rips out your heart with his fingers. Thats what Manning does if you let him.

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How much Darrent Williams film do you guys think Peyton watched this past week?
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Like I have said all along, there is no reason to hate Peyton Manning. The man is unfreaking real. When we tied the game at 31, you knew he was going to march that team right down the field.

But also, you have to give up for his offensive line. He had a pocket to throw the ball from all game long. I don't know if we even touched him in the last three quarters and he threw the ball 30 something times! Amazing.

If we were able to put some pressure on Manning, we could have made him look like most qbs that play us -- befuddled. But come on, he had upwards of 8 seconds sometimes to throw the ball. Plummer on the other hand has to scramble for his life everytime he drops back. Its just a fact.

I still can't believe Mediator12 says that Plummer has as much time to pass as Manning. That is a complete joke. Everybody saw the game today. The game was won in the trenches and Manning's O'line owned all game long. Without that offensive line, Manning isn't as half as good as he is. When you allow QBs to sit back and scan the field while eating a sandwhich, 90% of the guys in this league are going to kill you. Manning missed like 6 passes out of 40 attempts. GOOD GAWD!!!

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How much Darrent Williams film do you guys think Peyton watched this past week?
They guys watches film like no other. I am sure he knew everything that could be known about the D thats what gives him the edge. i bet given the opportunity he would use some sort of technology that allows him to disect film subconsciously while slepping.
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They guys watches film like no other. I am sure he knew everything that could be known about the D thats what gives him the edge. i bet given the opportunity he would use some sort of technology that allows him to disect film subconsciously while slepping.
yep. Guy probably works Mike Shanahan hours studying film.
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