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Old 09-22-2006, 12:11 PM   #76
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They just expect more at NU, they've been there done that. Unlike a little upstart football program like KSU. Switzer said it best in 2000 when he told a KSU fan after the 41-31 OU win... "you guys had a nice little run there..."

If KSU had winning football for the next 50 years, they still would not be able to sniff NU's jock as far as being a football powerhouse. While Callahan may still not be the answer up there, NU will be back. You can bank on it. OU took a nice break in the 90's...now were back to contenders year in and year out.

It was our tradition that carred us, and it will carry NU as well.
NU will never be back to the prosperity they saw back in the day. They will be a good team, but they can no longer cheat the scholarship system like they did under Osborne.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:13 PM   #77
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With the exception of Crushaholic and a few others...most KSU fans are delusional. They think that they are the "cream of the Big XII North", yet they haven't done anything besides beat OU in the Big XII championship in '03...that's it.

One trophy in the case for a school thats been playing football for over 100 years.

Their constant dribble cracks me up.
You have an unhealthy obsession with me.
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Funny, that post didn't even mention your name...who is obsessed?
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NU will never be back to the prosperity they saw back in the day. They will be a good team, but they can no longer cheat the scholarship system like they did under Osborne.
Seriously Saul, you post **** like it's fact and more times than not you're wrong.

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Is this the universal way to tap dance your way out of getting made a fool of? You throw the "obsession" card out there to deflect onto the other person. I gotta hand it to you Saul, you are the expert of attacking the person when you can't attack their logic.
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NU will never be back to the prosperity they saw back in the day. They will be a good team, but they can no longer cheat the scholarship system like they did under Osborne.
At our peak we only lost three games in a five year span, including three undefeated seasons. I can only think of one program (SC) right now that looks capable of replicating that type of success. It's hardly a knock on Nebraska to say we won't be reaching those heights again. I'd love to hear why you think we "will be a good team" when you've been ranting about how much our coach and AD suck.

As for why we fired our 9-3 coach (who Callahan haters just love but for some reason couldn't land a bigger gig than Ohio afterward) it might have something to do with the fact that all three losses (the only decent opponents all that year) were by 17+, including a 38-9 embaressment at home to KSU.
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I did not troll your thread my man. I gave some football takes and my thoughts on some of last years games. There's some good natured ribbing between BMF and myself and then your complete meltdown over my comments about not thinking Cally was a very good coach. I also called out some guy that said the husker D would be top ten last year.

Also, there more fans of other teams dishing it out over there than CU fans.
There was a OSU and a KSU fan as well, but in no way was there more fans on that thread of other teams then CU. Hawk is on a worse start then Cally by far and if you stop and think about the type of players Cally had to run his system then Hawk looks piss poor. Do I think Hawk is a bad coach? No! You can't judge a coach before he starts getting his players into his system, well you can but then you would just be Bluffs fans. Regardless CU fans did post alot of smack talk in our thread when our team was still in its rebuilding process so why do CU fans seem to think that we shouldn't kick CU while its down?
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:35 PM   #83
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NO WAY. Never happened. That link you gave there has nothing to do with football ... it's just a silly joke by Nugs4. YOU GUYS, on the other hand, are hammering us in our dark hour - which is very different.

In fact, not only do we NOT puke-troll in your lil' backyard, I remember having a very interesting (and mutually respectful) conversation there about the differences between CU and NU's out of conference scheduling habits .... maybe 2 - 3 months ago.

Both myself and the NU guys there kidded come, but we exchanged very good points in a respectful manner. I, for one, learned a few things, and we actually ended up wishing each other a 10-1 season!!!!! (Provided our own teams went 11-0)

Buff fans? Puke-trolling the Husker thread? No way. I'll link to that conversation here in a sec ...

HERE YOU GO! ... I started the little chat at Post #1044 at the bottom of this page:

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=29403&page=42
In fact, that little chat was with YOU, DUDE! ... and Florida Bronco.

The real prollem here is not just your 'trolling' - but your timing. The past month heas been very tough for us, and you couldda easily shown some discretion and restraint. At least Florida - who's a good guy and proves it elsewhere on the board - had the courtesy to withdraw some of his more caustic rhetoric here ...

Payback is a mo-fo, bro ... make sure you drop by here ... day after Thanksgiving. I'll be here.

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I'm trolling? Tell me what Ive said BAD about CU? The only real thing Ive said about them is that I don't care when they lose or win, unless its vs NU. Now if you take some time and go read over that NU thread you will see just how many CU fans where there when NU wasn't playing well.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...&postcount=253

Wow thats a nice thing to say about our coach.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...&postcount=264

More talk about our coach.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=29403&page=11

Pretty sure the trash talking was running wild in that thread.
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I didn't say you - per se - I just know I've seen some pretty heavy below-the-belt smack dished out from Huskers in this thread lately. The posters blur, as I spend little time and attention of the posts ...

Kick a guy when he's down, eh?


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That thread I linked to? The Husker thread? I bumped it - but I don't see it anywhere.... anybody know which room it's in?
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I'm trolling? Tell me what Ive said BAD about CU? The only real thing Ive said about them is that I don't care when they lose or win, unless its vs NU. Now if you take some time and go read over that NU thread you will see just how many CU fans where there when NU wasn't playing well.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...&postcount=253

Wow thats a nice thing to say about our coach.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showpost.ph...&postcount=264

More talk about our coach.

http://orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=29403&page=11

Pretty sure the trash talking was running wild in that thread.
Yeah ... some shots at your coach, sure. BUt there's a conundrum there, because this is a BRONCOS BOARD ... and your coach did take the RAIDERS to a Super Bowl just 3 1/2 years ago .... so there's some backwash on him in here regardless of CU guys.

Plus - the second link was Master__Pain just talking about who has a right to post negative, and why fans take it so serious.

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I didn't say you - per se - I just know I've seen some pretty heavy below-the-belt smack dished out from Huskers in this thread lately. The posters blur, as I spend little time and attention of the posts ...

Kick a guy when he's down, eh?


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That thread I linked to? The Husker thread? I bumped it - but I don't see it anywhere.... anybody know which room it's in?
Its right below this thread and while your at it you can find out why one of my post got removed from this thread. It sure was ok to kick NU while it was down but man oh man don't let anyone think twice about bashing CU when they make a coaching change and it doesn't go a easy as they hoped for. Like I said before win by a 100 lose by a 100 I don't care thats NOT why Im speaking up in this thread. You guys can lose every game during the season and I won't think twice about it. It has plenty to do with the fact that the NU thread was ALLOWED to be trolled last year. Hell even a couple of mods got into the act.
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Yeah ... some shots at your coach, sure. BUt there's a conundrum there, because this is a BRONCOS BOARD ... and your coach did take the RAIDERS to a Super Bowl just 3 1/2 years ago .... so there's some backwash on him in here regardless of CU guys.

Plus - the second link was Master__Pain just talking about who has a right to post negative, and why fans take it so serious.
So if Hawkins raped my dog do I get a free pass to bash him? To be fair Cally did win some games during his first year as NU's HC and I don't care who he coached before that. Did you take pot shots at Shanny for coaching the Raiders after he became Denvers HC?

I'd just like to add I think Hawk will be a damn fine coach for CU, but again thats not my point.

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Old 09-28-2006, 12:00 PM   #88
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Quit the b****ing about talking trash, that's what this thread is made for!!!

With that being said F.U.C.U!!!!
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DoucheBag4Life is such a pansy.
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DoucheBag4Life is such a pansy.
This coming from a guy who sticks his tail between his legs and runs off whenever he gets made a fool of in a thread.
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Screw all of you, Florida state has the worst OL in all of Division I-A football. Top that!
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Screw all of you, Florida state has the worst OL in all of Division I-A football. Top that!
Nebraska's secondary has been so banged up, we've moved receivers to cornerback.


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Can't wait to see Nancy-boy Freeman this week......


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Nebraska's secondary has been so banged up, we've moved receivers to cornerback.


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The Pats won a Super Bowl with that formula.
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He actually said that?
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NU will never be back to the prosperity they saw back in the day. They will be a good team, but they can no longer cheat the scholarship system like they did under Osborne.
Not to back Saul too much, but this article sorta supports what he is saying about scholarships. It was printed back in Jan in the KC Star

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...364.htmChanges diminish stature of Big Red
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JIM BARCUS | THE KANSAS CITY STAR
A loss to Kansas was a low point for Nebraska last season.
LINCOLN, Neb. | Tom Osborne called it painful. He sat dejectedly in the hotel ballroom after his loss in the Republican primary for governor last month. He’d even lost his home district.

“They sent me a pretty strong message,” he said.

These are rare moments for Osborne. Simply put, the man is not accustomed to losing. Sending strong messages? Osborne lives on the delivery side of those.

A decade ago, however, the new Big 12 Conference also sent a message to Osborne and Nebraska. The days of the Huskers getting their way, being admired and feared as the nation’s premier college football program, were numbered. The Big 12 would bring with it new rules and, because of that, new rulers.

Financially, the Big 12 has been a necessary blessing for its members. But there were losers along the way. Atop that list sits the Nebraska football dynasty, going from mythical to mediocre in this new super conference.

“The mystique of Nebraska fell off,” said Jon Zatechka, a Husker offensive guard from 1994 to 1997. “Once you know you can beat a team, that’s half the battle. And teams were lining up.”

Osborne and Nebraska approached the new league with skepticism. Bad enough the Big Eight seemed to be catering to the Lone Star State’s every desire. But the biggest blow — Nebraska football’s first Big 12 loss — came a year before the league kicked off. It served as the earliest stare-down between North and South, specifically the powers in each region, Nebraska and Texas.

Nebraska wanted unlimited partial qualifiers. Texas did not.

Texas won.

Unlimited partial qualifiers — players who don’t meet either minimum grade-point average or standardized test score requirements — would not be part of the Big 12.

“The University of Texas became a major driver of Big 12 policy,” Osborne said.

In time, when Osborne and his recruits from the Big Eight days shuffled out of the program, the Huskers started to slip. But it wasn’t until 2002 that the empire crumbled. Nebraska, which went 60-3 from 1993 to 1997, is 30-20 the last four seasons.

“It hurts,” Zatechka said. “When I was being recruited, it was like you could come to Nebraska and it was a guarantee you were going to win nine games and go to a bowl game.”

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In the Big Eight’s final three years, Nebraska went 36-1 with two national championships and three undefeated regular seasons. It’s easy to see why the Cornhuskers were comfortable in their environment.

And they weren’t alone in cheering the Big Eight.

Former Iowa State coach Johnny Orr often reminded reporters in a high-pitched tone, “The basketball coaches voted 8-0 against merging with them.”

Kansas basketball coach Roy Williams teed up the Texas schools at a news conference. He thought “Big Texas” was a more appropriate name for the enterprise.

Even after the Big 12 got its legs, the resentment bubbled. In 1999, a confidential e-mail slipped out from Kansas State president Jon Wefald, in which he suggested the University of Texas “represents in most people’s minds incredible wealth and arrogance.”

Osborne sensed trouble from the start. He learned by reading it in the newspaper that the Big 12 had chosen former Oklahoma athletic director Donnie Duncan as the associate commissioner for football. Nothing against Duncan, Osborne said. Heck, they got along fine, and Osborne liked the choice. He just thought a memo from the conference office that the position even existed would have been appropriate.

It had been established that Steve Hatchell from the Southwest Conference would be the commissioner and not Kansas athletic director Bob Frederick, that the league office would be in Dallas and not Kansas City, and that the Huskers would lose their annual rivalry with Oklahoma in the new scheduling.

Nebraska, the Big Eight’s muscle, was seeing its wishes denied.

But as a sour point, the partial-qualifier issue towered above all.

The Big Eight allowed schools to sign athletes who fell short of certain academic requirements. Those athletes sat out as freshmen, lost that year of eligibility but could regain it through solid classroom work. Like basket weaving and corn shucking

Five defensive starters from the 1995 national championship team came to Nebraska that way.

Texas wanted stronger standards.

“We thought it was extremely important to make a stand on this,” said Chris Plonsky, Texas women’s athletic director. “This was a new generation of college athletics, and this was an opportunity for a new conference to say we were going to be about high academic standards.”

Besides, Texas was prepared to take its ball and run to the Pac-10 or Big Ten.

“The issue was a deal-breaker for us,” Plonsky said.

Still, Osborne pleaded his case. He reasoned that initial eligibility rules were biased against economically deprived athletes, that schools in the Midwest have a small recruiting base and need the advantage, and players in the university’s academic help system would succeed.

What’s more, Osborne resented that Nebraska was cast as an academic backwater. No school has produced more Academic All-Americans, and the football program has consistently ranked near the top of the conference in graduation rates.

But the vote went against the Huskers. Plonsky remembered being at a men’s basketball game when she was approached by then-president Robert Berdahl with the news.

“I remember him saying, ‘We held our ground,’ ” Plonsky said.

A compromise allowed each Big 12 school to admit two male and two female partial qualifiers each year. Osborne wasn’t happy. Then again, little about the whole Big 12 idea pleased him.

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Yeah that definetly dealt us a blow, but we'll have to work around it (and by all accounts, I believe we are through Callahan's superb recruiting). Lots of teams are working around it and still have "dynasties."
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He actually said that?
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No offense to you shakenbake cause you seem to be a stand up guy and a respectful poster, but that is one of the reasons I despise Texas more than any other team in college football.

It's easy to be picky when you are sitting in the middle of one of the premier hotbeds for high school football, not so much when you are in a state of 1.7 million.

The only way to compete with that recruiting wise is to hit the jucos hard... which is what Billy C is doing.
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