Has the Brandon Marshall Experiment Run it's Course? - The Orange Mane

BroncoBuff · 09-21-2006, 02:45 AM

I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college?

I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick.

Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

OrangeShadow · 09-21-2006, 04:10 AM

what the hell is with all the judging of rookies after two measly games?

The Moops · 09-21-2006, 04:28 AM

If you're counting on rookie receivers to produce you must think everyone is a Randy Moss. Most receivers take 3 years before you know they're a bust or not, hence Ashley Lelie and Darius Watts. Now, Lelie wasn't a bust; he just turned out to be a little better than average. Watts was a bust.

Marshall's been hurt and because of that he hasn't been able to get on-the-field training. Shanahan's got one of the more complicated offenses. I believe Marshall had a catch against Detroit, but I could be wrong. Hixon also has been hurt. Give these guys a break. Fans need not panic about anything so early in the season. We're not even 0-2!

Ray Finkle · 09-21-2006, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college?

I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick.

Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

I so want to smack you.....

1. Who out of the WR's has looked great the first 2 games.
2. As mentioned already in this thread HE IS A ROOKIE....

Dedhed · 09-21-2006, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college?

I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick.

Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

I can see this is just a baiting thread, but we should start by pointing out that you don't have your facts in order. He caught a pass on the Broncos first series of the pre-season. He was injured on the next pass that came his way, (on which he was incorrectly ruled to have been juggling the ball)and is now getting back to full speed.

Broncojef · 09-21-2006, 05:11 AM

Lets not run any of the WR's out of town until Jay is once again at the helm. He made many of the subpar looking guys right now seem like world beaters. We need a pocket QB with an arm to fully exploit many of the young kids talents. Let them learn the system and grow, we shall see them soon enough. First year WR never ever produce.

BroncoFiend · 09-21-2006, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college?

I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick.

Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

WAY too early to judge the kid, he got hurt in the preseason and still many believe he will emerge as the #3 guy as the season progresses. He hasn't had many opportunities yet, was inactive due to injury week 1 and his QB played poorly in week 2.

He has the size and hands, lets give the kid a chance.

BroncoBuff · 09-21-2006, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dedhed

He caught a pass on the Broncos first series of the pre-season. He was injured on the next pass that came his way.

One catch against Detroit's thrid-stringers? You wanna go to war with that?

Sounds like he's not ready for how physical this game is in "the big leagues."

Dedhed · 09-21-2006, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

One catch against Detroit's thrid-stringers? You wanna go to war with that?

Sounds like he's not ready for how physical this game is in "the big leagues."

Detroit's first stringers. Start with getting your facts correct, please.

-Slap- · 09-21-2006, 05:27 AM

People are saying its way too soon to judge Brandon, but most of them have already judged him and decided he's a future starter and key to the offense. Bottom line is he was available in round four in a weak WR class. People are going to be really disappointed if he doesn't pan out, but the odds are against him.

Dedhed · 09-21-2006, 05:33 AM

I think the fact that he wasn't placed on IR suggests that Shanahan and Co think highly of him. Like anything else, we'll see what happens, but the kid has shown something.

Orange_Beard · 09-21-2006, 05:40 AM

Our QB has a 36.8 passer rating. Hard to rip any WR or TE at this point.

elsid13 · 09-21-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BroncoBuff

I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college?

I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick.

Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

Morgan was brought in for Return game. The panic about all the rookies is getting out of control, it two freaking games into the season. People seem expecting the rookies to play like 4 year vets that are Pro-bowlers.

Mile High Shack · 09-21-2006, 06:13 AM

I think it's premature to freak out about Brandon Marshall, just like it's too early to say he is going to be a stud

we just don't know, he was injured in preseason and he is just now getting up to tempo of a real game

whatever happens with him, happens

Conklin · 09-21-2006, 06:21 AM

i agree, but imma take it one step further, Jay Cutler has done NOTHING FOR US THIS SEASON. WTF who else was there @ 11 that could have helped us now!

Rohirrim · 09-21-2006, 06:24 AM

Rock Chalk · 09-21-2006, 06:29 AM

Well, Brandon has shown the Denver penchant for dropping balls right in his hands as he dropped a sure 15 yard gain right in his hands that Jake threw to him.

But, Im sure somehow that will be Jake's fault too.

BroncoInferno · 09-21-2006, 06:35 AM

Buff, it's just too early to tell at this point. Slap is right...some of the early camp enthusiasm may eventually go the way of Darius Watts and Adrian Madise, but two games is not going to tell the tale. He missed a lot of valuable reps with that knee injury. Rookie WRs, even ones who eventually become good players, don't generally start kicking ass from day one. Will we get much out of Marshall this season? Hard to say...it seemed like we would early on, but missing so many reps in August may hold him back for awhile. He has some catching up to do. But even if doesn't make a big impact this season, that won't mean he's a failed picked. Again, most WRs struggle as rookies, even good ones.

telluride · 09-21-2006, 06:44 AM

Good lord this is a dumb thread. We can't realistically evaluate anyone at this point of the season -- it's been like a Twilight Zone non-season thus far. Nothing will hold true extended out over the course of the full season. Does Jake truly suck this bad? Has the O-line lost its mojo? Is Rod done? Are thr rookies whiffs? I don't have any idea at this point.

And neither do any of you.

MechanicalBull · 09-21-2006, 06:44 AM

You can't judge anyone by a few preseason games and 2 regulars season games in which our offense has done pretty much nothing. No one can say right now that guys like Cutler and/or Marshall will be great or busts in the NFL.

We are 2 games into the season with a record of 1-1 and people are saying put Cutler in he will do amazing and some say the same about Marshall and now some are doubting Marshall.

elsid13 · 09-21-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Alec

Well, Brandon has shown the Denver penchant for dropping balls right in his hands as he dropped a sure 15 yard gain right in his hands that Jake threw to him.

But, Im sure somehow that will be Jake's fault too.

And you said you never learn anything from TJ.

Mediator12 · 09-21-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by -Slap-

People are saying its way too soon to judge Brandon, but most of them have already judged him and decided he's a future starter and key to the offense. Bottom line is he was available in round four in a weak WR class. People are going to be really disappointed if he doesn't pan out, but the odds are against him.

The reason for being available in round four was Character and work ethic issues. His physical abilities are top notch. From day one the kid has had a great attitude and is trying very hard to dispatch those assertions.

Plus, he is getting fourth WR reps in practice. Hard to develop chemistry with Plummer that way.

BroncoInferno · 09-21-2006, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mediator12

The reason for being available in round four was Character and work ethic issues.

I think it also probably had to do with playing at a small school and his limited experience as a receiver. He was converted from safety either his sophmore or junior year (can't remember which). I think his senior season was the only one where he posted good looking numbers, and players like that sometimes slip under the cracks of evaluation.

broncosteven · 09-21-2006, 07:44 AM

I am just glad Jojo's Kircus (if anyone has kids that watch the disney channel they will get the play on words) made a couple of decent catches late in the KFC game while Hot Rod was out with the concusion. Walker came up big late also.

I am hoping things settle down a bit this week & we see a more determined squad on the offensive side of the ball. I have no faith in Plummer, he is a Vet so Shanny is starting the Vet QB so he does not lose the faith of the other vets that are working hard to win. If Shanny started a Rookie Qb I think he feels he may lose the team outright, just my take.

To get back to your take BB I am glad at that we don't need a rookie to start at #3 at WR. I would be concerned if we had to start him right away & depend on him for production!

Xenos · 09-21-2006, 08:23 AM

I wouldn't worry too much about it yet. Heck Vincent Jackson was a second rounder and he was injured all last year with a achilles/calf sprain. Didn't do anything until the Indy game, and even then it was only for two catches (although they were quite nice catches IMO).

09-21-2006, 02:45 AM	#1
BroncoBuff *************** Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Seattle Posts: 25,433 Adopt-a-Bronco: QUANTERUS SMITH	Has the Brandon Marshall Experiment Run it's Course? I'm worried about Brandon Marshall ... he has yet to catch a ball in any game, not even pre-season. We knew going in that the pick was just a flyer, after all - didn't he play safety in college? I wonder who else was available at that pick in the fourth round, because it doesn't look like we'll be getting much out of the guy. No WONDER we picked up Quincy Morgan ... and I can't wait for Domenik Hixon to heal - maybe he can do somthing to make up for the Marshall pick. Let's hope Quincy Morgan can pick up the offense quickly.

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09-21-2006, 04:10 AM	#2
OrangeShadow armed and dangerous Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,771	what the hell is with all the judging of rookies after two measly games?

09-21-2006, 04:28 AM	#3
The Moops Old School Dude Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Princeton, NJ Posts: 1,115 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	If you're counting on rookie receivers to produce you must think everyone is a Randy Moss. Most receivers take 3 years before you know they're a bust or not, hence Ashley Lelie and Darius Watts. Now, Lelie wasn't a bust; he just turned out to be a little better than average. Watts was a bust. Marshall's been hurt and because of that he hasn't been able to get on-the-field training. Shanahan's got one of the more complicated offenses. I believe Marshall had a catch against Detroit, but I could be wrong. Hixon also has been hurt. Give these guys a break. Fans need not panic about anything so early in the season. We're not even 0-2!

09-21-2006, 05:11 AM	#6
Broncojef Ring of Famer Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Great White North Posts: 3,019	Lets not run any of the WR's out of town until Jay is once again at the helm. He made many of the subpar looking guys right now seem like world beaters. We need a pocket QB with an arm to fully exploit many of the young kids talents. Let them learn the system and grow, we shall see them soon enough. First year WR never ever produce.

09-21-2006, 05:27 AM	#10
-Slap- Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 31,895	People are saying its way too soon to judge Brandon, but most of them have already judged him and decided he's a future starter and key to the offense. Bottom line is he was available in round four in a weak WR class. People are going to be really disappointed if he doesn't pan out, but the odds are against him.

09-21-2006, 05:33 AM	#11
Dedhed Ring of Famer Fare thee well Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 9,701 Adopt-a-Bronco: Elvis	I think the fact that he wasn't placed on IR suggests that Shanahan and Co think highly of him. Like anything else, we'll see what happens, but the kid has shown something.

09-21-2006, 05:40 AM	#12
Orange_Beard Over Jay Cutler Todd Snider Rules! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 7,836 Adopt-a-Bronco: Tony Scheffler	Our QB has a 36.8 passer rating. Hard to rip any WR or TE at this point.

09-21-2006, 06:13 AM	#14
Mile High Shack Ring of Famer Cock-a-doodle-do Join Date: May 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 17,010	I think it's premature to freak out about Brandon Marshall, just like it's too early to say he is going to be a stud we just don't know, he was injured in preseason and he is just now getting up to tempo of a real game whatever happens with him, happens

09-21-2006, 06:21 AM	#15
Conklin Outrant, Outlose, Out2nd Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Kansas City, Misery Posts: 2,657	i agree, but imma take it one step further, Jay Cutler has done NOTHING FOR US THIS SEASON. WTF who else was there @ 11 that could have helped us now!

09-21-2006, 06:24 AM	#16
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09-21-2006, 06:29 AM	#17
Rock Chalk Cheeky Bastards Laus Deo Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Backside of the Internet Posts: 29,940 Adopt-a-Bronco: Chris Harris	Well, Brandon has shown the Denver penchant for dropping balls right in his hands as he dropped a sure 15 yard gain right in his hands that Jake threw to him. But, Im sure somehow that will be Jake's fault too.

09-21-2006, 06:35 AM	#18
BroncoInferno Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 12,998	Buff, it's just too early to tell at this point. Slap is right...some of the early camp enthusiasm may eventually go the way of Darius Watts and Adrian Madise, but two games is not going to tell the tale. He missed a lot of valuable reps with that knee injury. Rookie WRs, even ones who eventually become good players, don't generally start kicking ass from day one. Will we get much out of Marshall this season? Hard to say...it seemed like we would early on, but missing so many reps in August may hold him back for awhile. He has some catching up to do. But even if doesn't make a big impact this season, that won't mean he's a failed picked. Again, most WRs struggle as rookies, even good ones.

09-21-2006, 06:44 AM	#19
telluride Ring of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,557 Adopt-a-Bronco: --Rulon!--	Good lord this is a dumb thread. We can't realistically evaluate anyone at this point of the season -- it's been like a Twilight Zone non-season thus far. Nothing will hold true extended out over the course of the full season. Does Jake truly suck this bad? Has the O-line lost its mojo? Is Rod done? Are thr rookies whiffs? I don't have any idea at this point. And neither do any of you.

09-21-2006, 06:44 AM	#20
MechanicalBull Interesting Times Ahead Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,825	You can't judge anyone by a few preseason games and 2 regulars season games in which our offense has done pretty much nothing. No one can say right now that guys like Cutler and/or Marshall will be great or busts in the NFL. We are 2 games into the season with a record of 1-1 and people are saying put Cutler in he will do amazing and some say the same about Marshall and now some are doubting Marshall.

09-21-2006, 07:44 AM	#24
broncosteven The Kranz Dictum MWA: Flight Director Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Posts: 29,008 Adopt-a-Bronco: MONEYBALL #38	I am just glad Jojo's Kircus (if anyone has kids that watch the disney channel they will get the play on words) made a couple of decent catches late in the KFC game while Hot Rod was out with the concusion. Walker came up big late also. I am hoping things settle down a bit this week & we see a more determined squad on the offensive side of the ball. I have no faith in Plummer, he is a Vet so Shanny is starting the Vet QB so he does not lose the faith of the other vets that are working hard to win. If Shanny started a Rookie Qb I think he feels he may lose the team outright, just my take. To get back to your take BB I am glad at that we don't need a rookie to start at #3 at WR. I would be concerned if we had to start him right away & depend on him for production!

09-21-2006, 08:23 AM	#25
Xenos Who got Bunny Ears? New to the Forum Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,184 Adopt-a-Bronco: None	I wouldn't worry too much about it yet. Heck Vincent Jackson was a second rounder and he was injured all last year with a achilles/calf sprain. Didn't do anything until the Indy game, and even then it was only for two catches (although they were quite nice catches IMO).